16:02:57 #startmeeting containers 16:02:58 Meeting started Tue Feb 16 16:02:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:02:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:03:01 The meeting name has been set to 'containers' 16:03:02 o/ 16:03:05 o/ 16:03:06 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda_for_2016-02-16_1600_UTC 16:03:15 #topic Roll Call 16:03:15 o/ 16:03:19 o/ 16:03:19 o/ 16:03:20 o/ 16:03:20 o/ 16:03:22 o/ 16:03:23 o/ 16:03:23 o/ 16:03:25 o/ 16:03:30 o/ 16:04:02 o/ 16:04:25 Thanks for joining the meeting dimtruck wznoinsk wanghua muralia1 Tango|2 strigazi levi_b dane_leblanc himanshu_garg rpothier juggler coolsvap|away rochaporto 16:04:32 o/ 16:04:35 #topic Announcements 16:04:42 1) adrian_otto is travelling today, and may be unable to join us. Our pro-tem chair will be Hongbin. 16:04:53 2) Our midcycle meetup happens this week. You must RSVP to attend. 16:05:02 #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Magnum/Midcycle Midcycle Meetup Details 16:05:27 Any other announcement from our team member? 16:05:54 #topic Review Action Items 16:06:07 1) bradjones and adrian_otto to work on a demo of the Magnum UI for publication on the Magnum project wiki page. Status: In-Progress. 16:06:23 Detail: Brad will be unable to attend today, but worked on this with adrian_otto last week. We expect to have most of the recording finished by the close of this week. 16:06:45 2) hongbin to create an etherpad for collaborative development of our NativeAPI wiki page 16:06:54 Status: Complete 16:07:01 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-native-api Collaboration on working draft 16:07:27 It would be great if everyone to fresh their inputs there 16:07:38 Hello 16:07:40 We will discuss this topic in the midcyle 16:07:45 o/ 16:07:50 thomasem: hi 16:07:59 Sorry I'm late to the party 16:08:08 #topic Blueprint Review 16:08:19 Essential Blueprint Review 16:08:25 hey thomasem! 16:08:42 Let me parse the essential BPs 16:09:01 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-tempest 16:09:20 dimtruck: do you have any update? 16:09:29 all of the patches are closed 16:09:37 we can set this blueprint to completed 16:09:44 i couldn't get ahold of adrian to do that 16:09:50 not sure if anyone else has the powers 16:10:24 dimtruck: marked it as implemented 16:10:31 you are awesome! thank you! 16:10:49 dimtruck: np. Thanks for your work! It is amazing 16:11:05 :D 16:11:12 Next one 16:11:16 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/magnum-troubleshooting-guide 16:11:31 Tango|2: do you have any update to share? 16:11:42 Still pretty slow progress there 16:11:58 Of the sections in the outline, 11 needs to start from scratch, 7 done or in progress 16:12:15 Tango|2: ACK 16:12:48 If anyone has expertise in debugging, please jump in and help. 16:13:19 Yes, definitely. Docs is not a fun work, but it is required for the project 16:13:33 Essential for a project to succeed 16:13:50 And get user adoption 16:13:58 Any help on that would be greatly appreciated 16:14:15 OK. Next one 16:14:18 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/user-guide 16:14:28 Similarly, slow progress: 16:14:30 7 sections need to start from scratch, 7 sections are done, have existing doc, or in progress 16:15:02 Tango|2: There are a few users asked for installation guide, does it cover in the user guide? 16:15:18 or we need a new BP for that? 16:15:46 I think OpenStack has a general doc for this 16:16:19 We should look to see how other projects do their installation guide and have it included in the general instruction 16:16:41 So I would guess we want a separate BP 16:16:49 Tango|2: ACK 16:16:59 I will follow up on this 16:17:08 #action hongbin create a BP for creating an installation guide 16:17:24 OK. Last BP 16:17:34 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/resource-quota 16:18:09 Vilobh didn't show up in roll call 16:18:14 I guess we can skip it 16:18:38 Any other Blueprints, Bugs, Specs, and other work items to be discussed as a team? 16:19:45 silent... 16:19:53 #topic Open Discussion 16:19:53 :) 16:20:12 i think people are excited to have these discussions in person 16:20:34 definitely. Midcyle will be on this week 16:20:43 should Magnum add some operational features for COE 16:21:03 wanghua: please elaborate 16:21:25 for example, collect logs, upgrade COE, modify configuration for COE 16:21:52 wanghua: Definitely. We need to shift focus from deployment to lifecycle operations 16:22:20 I think these features are important in production. 16:22:24 These are more important for cloud providers 16:22:32 we sort of are adding this in some places already (copying logs on error, for example) but it'd be nice to have it as part of a project 16:22:36 so definite +1 16:23:00 Is this subject already on the schedule for the midcycle? 16:23:04 +1 on lifecycle of the COE. For providers, being able to apply updates or configuration changes to address bugs and security issues as they arise is critical 16:24:03 It looks managing lifecycle of COE is a consesus 16:24:19 Tango|2: it's not 16:24:33 I think on day 2, at 10-11 16:24:42 So we should add it into the midcycle agenda 16:24:50 yup :), you're right 16:24:57 10:00 - 11:00 Operational Concerns: Handling Running Bays 16:25:19 Great! 16:25:19 Operational concerns: we should brainstorm and list the operations needed 16:25:30 Tango|2: +1 16:26:40 Tango|2: we could do that in the midcycle 16:26:53 Sounds good 16:27:08 i updated some of the things that wanghua brought up 16:27:14 but yeah, we can go from there 16:27:30 dimtruck: thx 16:28:33 any info yet on the Google hangout link for remote participation? 16:29:03 juggler: not sure from me 16:29:49 ok just wondering 16:30:48 Maybe we could take a look at the midcycle agenda here 16:30:50 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-mitaka-midcycle-topics 16:31:07 Is everyone happy on this agenda? 16:31:18 Please feel to advice if anything needs to be fixed 16:31:46 juggler: from what i understand, they won't know until they check the rooms and the feasibility of having remote participation 16:32:05 Ahhh, okay 16:32:07 that makes sense 16:32:27 I guess as long as there is external internet connection, we should be able to set up a web session 16:32:37 dimtruck ok. if they can update the meetup page as more info arises then: http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/224950334/ 16:33:49 perhaps an agenda entry is needed as a gentle reminder to do so? 16:35:06 juggler: added a session in the etherpad 16:35:26 we can update the session once we have further information 16:35:34 hongbin: thanks! 16:36:34 Any other item our team members want to discuss? 16:36:49 If none, we could wrap up earlier 16:37:02 not from me :) excited for what comes out of the midcycle :) 16:37:16 ya 16:37:25 :) 16:37:36 Hi adrian_otto 16:37:41 hi, thanks. 16:37:58 adrian_otto: we are in an open discussion 16:38:21 ok 16:38:31 adrian_otto: we discussed the remote session in the midcycle 16:38:41 adrian_otto: do you have any information? 16:40:03 not yet. 16:40:36 adrian_otto: ack 16:40:38 is Tom present in this meeting? 16:40:48 he didn't show up in roll call 16:40:54 he may be traveling today also. 16:41:43 I'll check in with him, and the person assisting him to sort that out. if you plan to attend remotely, please RSVP on eventbrite as a remote. 16:41:59 and I'll be sure to email all of you participation information, and post it on the Midcycle wiki page. 16:42:17 thanks 16:43:21 adrian_otto: thank you. I guess we are close to wrap up right now. Any other information you would like to share? 16:43:37 Think we're all ready to get in a room and talk at eachother. 16:43:42 :) 16:43:51 in person 16:44:57 How many are planning to come? 16:44:57 yes, I look forward to seeing many of you this week. 16:45:08 a dozen have entered RSVP 16:45:20 for in-person. I did not look at remotes yet. 16:45:31 cool 16:45:32 Nice,a good group. 16:45:39 looks like 200+ for remote 16:45:50 250+ correction 16:46:23 you must be kidding 16:46:32 http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/224950334/ 16:46:45 Whoa 16:46:55 apparently bots like magnum? 16:46:55 people might've just clicked RSVP but might not show up :) 16:46:58 hard to say 16:47:22 hope there's e-swag lol ;) 16:47:29 we have 12 in person and 2 registered as remotes 16:47:42 that's about right… as the remotes tend to register the day of. 16:48:12 oh, that's in addition to the Midcyle event 16:48:13 oh that meetup is the openstack meetup, not the midcycle. got it 16:48:18 that will actually be havily attended 16:48:30 ah 16:48:33 yes, an audience of 200+ is possible there. 16:49:13 the OpenStack group in the bay area has nearly 6000 members in it. 16:50:32 thanks hongbin for running today's team meeting. I really appreciate it. 16:50:42 adrian_otto: my pleasure 16:50:49 Let's wrap up then 16:50:57 #endmeeting