16:00:24 <strigazi> #startmeeting containers
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16:00:34 <strigazi> #topic Roll Call
16:01:16 <Drago1> o/ Hi strigazi!
16:01:25 <tonanhngo> Ton Ngo
16:01:28 <jasond> o/
16:01:30 <strigazi> hi Drago1
16:01:44 <coreyob> o/
16:02:20 <juggler> o/
16:02:30 <strigazi> Thanks for joining the meeting Drago1 tonanhngo jasond strigazi coreyob juggler
16:02:33 <juggler> hello strigazi!
16:03:05 <strigazi> hi juggler
16:03:06 <strigazi> #topic Announcements
16:03:46 <strigazi> None
16:03:55 <strigazi> Team, do you have any?
16:04:18 <juggler> currently, none here
16:04:31 <strigazi> #topic Essential Blueprints Review
16:05:12 <strigazi> 1. Support baremetal container clusters (strigazi)
16:05:15 <strigazi> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395012/
16:05:26 <strigazi> No, wrong url
16:05:41 <strigazi> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/flatten-attributes this is ti
16:06:12 <strigazi> please have look in the review, I'm a bit stuck in the update operation
16:07:15 <strigazi> Do you have any question about it?
16:08:02 <tonanhngo> Which review do you mean?
16:08:19 <juggler> stuck in what respect?
16:08:21 <strigazi> I'm thinking in doing it in two steps like the contruct and expand now to move forward faster.
16:08:36 <strigazi> This review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395012/
16:09:39 <strigazi> I can't get the update right since the API object is different than the rpc object
16:10:45 <tonanhngo> ok, will take a close look
16:11:10 <juggler> thanks tonanhngo for assisting s
16:11:32 <strigazi> ok, I was thinking expanding the tables with all attributes in a patch and the reduce them again in a followup
16:12:44 <strigazi> We can follow it up later
16:12:50 <strigazi> next is:
16:13:19 <strigazi> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/nodegroups Nodegroups Drago1
16:13:23 <Drago1> I don't have any update. Jaycen didn't send me any update either.
16:13:32 <strigazi> ok
16:13:56 <strigazi> Finally is #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cluster-upgrades Cluster
16:15:13 <strigazi> I did a prototype with node replacement but without finishing the first bp I can't move forward.
16:16:06 <strigazi> doing rebuild is very fast. I'm aiming doing a demo before the summit
16:16:47 <strigazi> That's it.
16:17:21 <strigazi> #topic Other blueprints/Bugs/Reviews/Ideas
16:17:33 <strigazi> I have a serious one
16:17:48 <strigazi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1680900
16:17:49 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1680900 in Magnum "Reduce size of software-configs in user-data" [High,New]
16:18:13 <strigazi> Currently, we pass all our scripts in user-data
16:18:36 <strigazi> that field in a mariadb or mysql is 64kb
16:19:07 <strigazi> we are near 63kb
16:19:13 <Drago1> We started using software deployments
16:19:22 <Drago1> In our downstream driver
16:19:42 <strigazi> with the heat-agents?
16:20:10 <Drago1> yes
16:20:28 <Drago1> works well
16:21:49 <strigazi> ok, so if we need software deployments we need them as well.
16:22:40 <strigazi> OS allows golang now, we can write them in golang :)
16:23:06 <tonanhngo> Yay
16:23:16 <strigazi> Drago1 You use a custom image I suppose?
16:23:21 <randallburt> uh, those two things aren't quite related but yay
16:23:26 <Drago1> Yes, we're using fedora cloud 24
16:23:39 <Drago1> non-atomic, with the agents baked in
16:23:51 <juggler> golang, excellent!
16:24:09 <Drago1> randallburt: they're related in the sense that non-python docker images are way smaller
16:24:28 <strigazi> I asked what is the status and the reply was feel free to contribute :)
16:24:33 <randallburt> so you want to rewrite all the agents on top of including software deployments?
16:25:55 <strigazi> I would be nice, but it is a massive task.
16:26:55 <strigazi> Let's go to open discussion
16:26:56 <strigazi> #topic Open Discussion
16:27:49 <Drago1> Possibly naive, but to get what we want out of software deployments, is it that hard? I mean, could it be written in bash in the meantime?
16:27:52 <Drago1> randallburt: ^
16:28:03 <strigazi> Team, is anyone using swarm-mode? I don't have time for the functional tests, I need some help
16:28:23 <Drago1> (not signing up for it, by the way)
16:29:42 <randallburt> Drago1:  but to get "what we want" out of software deployments we don't have to rewrite anything but our templates
16:29:53 <randallburt> Drago1:  so I don't see the point (at least at this stage)
16:30:28 <randallburt> strigazi:  sorry, but I don't know anyone using swarm atm
16:30:33 <Drago1> randallburt: If you're talking about running the agents in a container, pulling/loading is too slow in the gate
16:31:00 <Drago1> And we didn't really get anywhere with having the agents run on the host
16:31:07 <randallburt> Drago1:  which we asked to have solved with pre-loaded images in atomic
16:31:35 <jasond> Drago1: i thought we were going to try using the host OS's python installation
16:31:45 <Drago1> randallburt: Unless the images are actually already loaded in docker at boot time, loading is still too slow
16:31:59 <Drago1> jasond: well we never figured out how to make that work
16:32:27 <jasond> Drago1: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-ptg-pike-upstream-linux-os
16:32:35 <randallburt> Drago1 jasond well Adrian was going to play with it, I don't remember hearing how that went
16:33:11 <Drago1> Oh okay, so containerized, but just binding all the things into the container so we don't have to include python in the image
16:35:42 <strigazi> One more thing, have you tried cinder with k8s again? It works for us with k8s 1.5.2
16:35:53 <Drago1> randallburt: ^
16:36:00 <strigazi> even dynamic claim works
16:36:27 <strigazi> with patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445404/
16:37:08 <Drago1> We're on 1.5.4 and from what I remember randallburt saying, it didn't work for us, so we were going to test 1.6
16:37:09 <strigazi> and claim like: http://clouddocs.web.cern.ch/clouddocs/containers/tutorials/cinder.html
16:37:37 <strigazi> the above examples work with k8s 1.5.2 ^^
16:38:45 <strigazi> I guess 1.5.4 as well
16:39:45 <Drago1> I haven't personally done any testing so I can't say
16:40:20 <strigazi> ok
16:40:26 <randallburt> I haven't tried recently but will today
16:40:51 <strigazi> randallburt be sure to use the same kubectl client version
16:41:02 <strigazi> server 1.5 and client 1.6 won't work
16:42:03 <randallburt> oh I bet the udev ln fixes it!
16:42:21 <randallburt> cool, thanks strigazi
16:42:39 <strigazi> Team, we wrap it early. Is there anything else?
16:42:48 <strigazi> You are welcome randallburt
16:43:03 <Drago1> Nice
16:43:13 <juggler> good here. thx strigazi for presiding
16:43:54 <strigazi> see you all next week!
16:43:56 <strigazi> #endmeeting