15:00:17 <jimbaker> #startmeeting craton
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15:00:30 <sigmavirus> Hi there!
15:00:49 <sigmavirus> Hey, do we have a name for people working on craton? "Cratonistas" maybe?
15:00:59 <jimbaker> sigmavirus, hi! hope you had a weekend!
15:01:06 <jimbaker> geologists?
15:01:17 <sigmavirus> jimbaker: I had a weekend. It was not relaxing though =P
15:01:17 <jimbaker> builders?
15:01:51 <jimbaker> ah, yes, we all had weekends. mine was reasonably intense, possibly relaxing
15:03:41 <jovon> O/
15:04:12 <jimbaker> jovon, hi
15:04:39 <sulo> o/
15:05:10 <jimbaker> sulo, hi. looking forward to seeing you next week. you fly into barcelona on monday, right?
15:05:27 <sulo> jimbaker: yes monday early evening i get there
15:05:39 <sulo> should be fun ;)
15:05:50 <jimbaker> sulo, ack. i'm arriving a few days early to get adjusted to time zone shift
15:06:07 <jimbaker> + work on pres
15:06:12 <sigmavirus> jimbaker: so no craton meeting next week then, right?
15:06:23 <jimbaker> sigmavirus, unless you want to chair
15:06:27 <sulo> jimbaker: yeah, we need to meet up monday and practice a session or two
15:06:41 <jimbaker> sulo, sounds good to me
15:06:43 <sigmavirus> jimbaker: I could, but who will be around to attend?
15:07:08 <jimbaker> jovon and syed_ would be the other principal attendees
15:07:11 <sigmavirus> And will it be valuable if the majority are in Barcelona having in person discussions?
15:07:19 <sulo> i probably wont be able to, i will be just arriving in barcelona etc
15:07:25 <sigmavirus> I'll be happy to chair if jovon and syed want to have the meeting
15:07:39 <jimbaker> but... i agree it's not necessary to have this meeting
15:08:12 <sigmavirus> We can just cancel it for next week then
15:08:25 <sulo> +1
15:08:26 <jimbaker> sigmavirus, i expect that the usual will happen at the summit - we will try to have high bandwidth meetings
15:08:32 <lcastell> o/
15:08:34 <jimbaker> cancelation +1
15:08:39 <jimbaker> lcastell, hi
15:08:47 <sulo> hi lcastell
15:08:54 <sigmavirus> jimbaker: I'll send a message to the ML for posterity then ;)
15:09:10 <jimbaker> sigmavirus, sounds good. hopefully after summit, we will be using the mailing list much more
15:09:30 <sigmavirus> jimbaker: good
15:09:31 <jimbaker> we need to go to normal cadence. at least i do
15:11:01 <jimbaker> so this week: finalize outstanding reviews, bug fixes + get ready for our presentation
15:11:26 <jimbaker> we should also discuss next week's goals
15:12:33 <jimbaker> both in summit (sulo, jimbaker, jcannava, maybe mdorman, others); as well as keystone, horizon, functional testing work
15:12:44 <jimbaker> for sigmavirus, lcastell, syed_
15:14:02 <jimbaker> ok, i guess that can form the basis of today's agenda
15:14:13 <syed_> +1
15:15:10 <jimbaker> sulo, anything in particular you want to point out about the forthcoming week?
15:15:26 <jimbaker> i see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386747/, so will review that
15:15:38 <sulo> ah review wise ?
15:15:51 <sulo> yeah so there are a bunch of reviews pending
15:15:51 <jimbaker> new stuff too
15:16:01 <sulo> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386646/
15:16:05 <sulo> needs to go in asap
15:16:25 <jimbaker> sulo, sounds good
15:16:48 <sulo> other than that .. there is nothing much review wise
15:16:54 <sulo> where are we with the workflow code ?
15:17:40 <jimbaker> sulo, right. so i can continue working on that, but i want to get other stuff done first
15:18:04 <sulo> other stuff ?
15:18:08 <jimbaker> i have the basic modeling done, and some basic usage
15:18:47 <jimbaker> presentation, reviews, bug fixes. i assume we still want variable queries?
15:19:11 <jimbaker> or postpone until after next week?
15:19:37 <sulo> i think we can postpone variable query .. thats the patch i have up right ?
15:19:57 <sulo> we need to fix validation code for that ..
15:20:07 <sulo> well we just need to fix validation code for many things
15:20:42 <jimbaker> sulo, +1
15:20:48 <jimbaker> but just a question of timing
15:21:02 <sulo> but back to workflow .. i would say lets concentrate on that .. thats is going to be vital presentation wise
15:21:18 <jimbaker> sulo, ok - i suggest we sprint on this together then
15:21:45 <sulo> sounds good .. can you put the patch up .. we can go from there
15:22:42 <jimbaker> sulo, sounds good
15:24:56 <jimbaker> so at this point: i have some basic logic for building out the two level task graph; tracking tasks; and filling in via notifications; along with db modeling. what's missing is the actual task execution (but can be trivial, just run the argspec); along with the rest api support (but again, not so much, especially after the api refactoring changes)
15:25:38 <jimbaker> so we will start with that with respect to the patch
15:26:37 <sulo> cool
15:26:49 <jimbaker> presentation wise: let's work on a markdown version first, so we can get the outline down. i will put in a repo
15:27:00 <jimbaker> we can then revisit with the powerpoint template we got
15:27:05 <sulo> k
15:27:26 <jimbaker> but i prefer to get the text worked out before we worry about pictures :)
15:27:31 <sulo> for the summit .. lets make sure we have craton representation for som eof the ops sessions
15:28:02 <sulo> maybe start a quick etherpad with wich sessions/talks to go to so it makes the most sense for the project ?
15:28:16 <jimbaker> sulo, sounds like a good plan
15:28:38 <jimbaker> could also get feedback from #craton and especially VW and jcannava
15:28:43 <sulo> jimbaker: cool, whoever gets to it first .. lets put it in the channel
15:28:53 <jimbaker> +1
15:28:56 <sulo> i might take a stab at it tonight or tomorrow morning
15:29:36 <sulo> the only other thing i have for summit .. is a possible meeting/discussion with ovh folks
15:30:15 <sulo> they are keen to have a chat about the project etc and we have agreed to meet at some point .. but not specific dates/time
15:30:55 <jimbaker> ok, let's certainly do that
15:31:02 <sulo> i just we can just go there and find the right time/space ?
15:31:42 <jimbaker> sulo, i expect it to be like any other summit. hopefully more like vancouver than austin or paris in terms of getting space
15:32:07 <jimbaker> but there's always space to be found at the summits
15:34:21 <jimbaker> syed_, jovon - i hope we can your help on the presentation. i'm sure there will be diagrams we can put together with your help; and images to be selected
15:34:27 <jimbaker> use your hep
15:34:30 <jimbaker> use your help
15:34:37 <syed_> Sure
15:34:50 <syed_> i was thinking if we need any diagram with horizon or anything ?
15:35:04 <syed_> so we can show how it might look
15:35:26 <jimbaker> syed_, storyboard type imagery would be helpful
15:35:38 <sulo> yeah screenshot of what we have in horizon dashboard is not a bad idea
15:36:21 <syed_> Sounds cool to me
15:36:24 <sulo> doesnt have to be much .. just one or two screenshots might do the job well
15:36:32 <jovon> and me as wrll
15:36:33 <jovon> well
15:36:42 <jimbaker> yeah. especially with respect to anything we should from oh3
15:36:47 <jimbaker> we show from oh3
15:36:53 <jimbaker> typos today! ;)
15:38:23 <jimbaker> should we discuss next week now? just want to make sure everyone is productive while sulo and i are away
15:38:36 <jimbaker> also heads up: i will be taking a week of vacation after the summit
15:39:24 <jovon> i think we have time
15:40:11 <jimbaker> jovon, fair enough. but maybe at a high level
15:40:33 <syed_> i will be working on client side, and working over utf8 to utf8mb4 plus fixups
15:40:38 <jimbaker> ideally we can look at the remaining keystone integration issues
15:40:47 <syed_> maybe look over keystone integration
15:40:48 <syed_> yeap
15:40:49 <jimbaker> syed_, please postpone utf8mb4
15:41:03 <syed_> okay
15:41:04 <jimbaker> that was supposed to be a low hanging fruit, that wasn't
15:41:20 <syed_> yeah i guess its not, sounds cool
15:41:36 <syed_> will get more on keystone auth, i might need help from sigmavirus
15:41:42 <jimbaker> we should support, but let's not worry about it this moment
15:41:51 <sigmavirus> syed_: absolutely
15:41:59 <syed_> Thanks Ian
15:42:01 <sigmavirus> syed_: sorry, never got devstack up to test that out.
15:42:07 <sigmavirus> Let me prioritize that for today to see if I can help
15:42:14 <syed_> please do
15:42:14 <syed_> thanks
15:42:24 <jimbaker> so where we left off, or least where i left off in this discussion
15:42:56 <jimbaker> 1. project_id needs to be uuid, or perhaps better a string in general
15:43:21 <jimbaker> this should have minimal impact in usage because dynamic typing :)
15:43:29 <jimbaker> (not loose typing mind you)
15:43:34 <lcastell> let me know if you need help with the keystone thing... specially on how horizon uses other clients with keystone
15:43:53 <jimbaker> lcastell, i'm sure this will be much appreciated
15:44:19 <lcastell> np :)
15:45:25 <jimbaker> 2. need to build out a keystone-integrated stack, in a separate Dockerfile. i assume this is not with devstack
15:46:00 <jimbaker> (we definitely do not want keystone in the primary Dockerfile we use for testing, basic usage)
15:46:11 <jimbaker> 3. complete connections. profit
15:47:34 <syed_> Sounds good
15:47:41 <syed_> hopefully we can knock out the keystone auth stuff soon
15:47:57 <jimbaker> syed_, yeah, really want to see horizon working :)
15:48:28 <jimbaker> so i think this is a nice chunk that can be done in parallel while sulo and i are at the summit
15:48:41 <syed_> cool
15:49:29 <jimbaker> awesome. anything else that we should discuss today?
15:49:38 <syed_> I am good
15:50:01 <jimbaker> jovon, lcastell, sigmavirus, sulo, ?
15:50:11 <sigmavirus> noope
15:50:14 <lcastell> nope
15:50:26 <jovon> i am good
15:50:53 <jimbaker> excellent, let's move any further discussion to #craton
15:50:58 <jimbaker> #endmeeting