17:03:20 <Kiall> #startmeeting Designate
17:03:21 <openstack> Meeting started Wed May 13 17:03:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:03:24 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'designate'
17:03:31 <Kiall> Hey Folks - Who's about?
17:03:35 <timsim> o?
17:03:52 <rjrjr> o/
17:03:53 <Kiall> mugsie has walked away from his desk.. I'm sure he'll be back sometime soon ;)
17:03:54 <ducttape_> he
17:03:55 <ducttape_> hey
17:04:13 <pglass> o/
17:04:33 <vinod> o/
17:04:34 <jmcbride1> 0/
17:04:38 <Kiall> Okay - Let's get started.. No Actions logged last week, so skipping that section.
17:04:45 <Kiall> #topic Bug triage (timsim - recurring)
17:04:50 <Kiall> timsim you're up ;)
17:04:56 <timsim> There's no bugs!
17:05:04 <timsim> (or untriaged ones anyway)
17:05:18 * ducttape_ thinks there are opportunities, however
17:05:38 <Kiall> Agreed, "No untriaged bugs so far! \o/" feels like a lie to me ;)
17:05:50 <Kiall> Anyone aware of any open issues not getting attention right now?
17:06:37 <Kiall> Silence means no.. Okay.. Moving on so.
17:06:40 <mugsie> they all look ok
17:06:51 <Kiall> #topic Vancouver (kiall)
17:07:08 <Kiall> Okay, quick poll to start this one! Who's going to be there?
17:07:13 <mugsie> o/
17:07:14 <Kiall> I am..
17:07:21 <timsim> o/
17:07:30 <ducttape_> I am
17:07:43 <bharath> I am
17:08:10 <Kiall> excellent :) I hear jmcbride1 is too.. seems he's gone AWOL .. Okay.
17:08:15 <jmcbride1> yep!
17:08:20 <ducttape_> mfisch will be there too
17:08:35 <Kiall> Okay, now that that's out of the way..
17:08:36 <elarson> I plan to be there in spirit :)
17:08:39 <Kiall> lol
17:08:41 <Kiall> #link http://libertydesignsummit.sched.org/type/design+summit/Designate
17:09:18 <Kiall> Summit sessions have been posted, please mark yourself as attending any which you do actually idend to be at.. And, come say Hi ;)
17:09:38 <Kiall> Sadly, we can't change the titles (bar the fishbowl one) - so you have to click into them
17:09:56 <Kiall> Each "Work room" is maxes out @ ~25 people, which should be more than enough ..
17:10:58 <Kiall> I also exepct there will be plently of off-track discussions/meetups.. So let me know if you want an email whenever something like that happens to see if you're interested in joining.. kiall@hp.com
17:11:37 <Kiall> Okay - That's all I wanted to say about Vancouver... Anyone else? If not, we'll move  on
17:11:51 <bharath> any reason why all work sessions are on same day ?
17:12:43 <Kiall> bharath: that's just how things landed :) There's basically 2 days of conference before the designate summit starts, 2 days of work sessions, 1 day of contributer meetups
17:13:10 <bharath> ok cool
17:13:12 <bharath> np
17:13:32 <Kiall> There's a giant google spreadsheet Thierry used to schedule, and there really wasn't any more spread out slots to ask for :)
17:13:50 <Kiall> Okay - Moving on so :)
17:13:54 <Kiall> #topic Nova/Neutron Integration
17:13:54 <Kiall> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88624/
17:13:54 <Kiall> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88623/
17:13:54 <Kiall> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90150/
17:14:17 <Kiall> carl_baldwin has got a bunch of specs up, which have recently been revived for getting true Nova/Neutron integration
17:14:19 <Kiall> (Woo)
17:14:48 <mugsie> :)
17:14:49 <Kiall> We've got a slot in Vancouver for them, we should have folks from Nova/Neutron attend
17:15:02 <timsim> Sounds like fun
17:15:16 <Kiall> but - It's important we know what we "want" going in.. Please, please, review and comment on the specs beforehand.. even if you're not attending
17:16:34 <Kiall> I don't think there's anything controversial in them, all my draft comments so far as nit's if anything.. But others may have different requirements (e.g. eBay/Paypal.. private cloud.. vs Rax/HP Public Cloud etc etc..).. Once they are agreed upon, it'll be hard to turn that ship ;)
17:17:12 <Kiall> Has anyone else read over them yet?
17:17:38 <mugsie> o/
17:17:42 <timsim> Nope
17:17:54 <mugsie> i have draft comments, need to re-read before hitting publish
17:17:54 <bharath> Not yet
17:18:16 <timsim> Will definitely look
17:18:40 <Kiall> Okay, please do! These are the #1 most requested thing we get asked for, and it's likely the most painful thing to implement as it involves 3 projects. ("yay")
17:19:16 <bharath> yes, will definitely review
17:19:24 <Kiall> Let's move on, next one is quick too..
17:19:24 <Kiall> #topic Post-Summit Housekeeping - Plans (kiall)
17:19:55 <Kiall> So - Previous summits, we've been AWFUL at documenting discussions/decisions/etc. We need to make sure we don't do that again :)
17:20:35 <Kiall> Each session will have an etherpad, everyone should feel free to add notes, not just the speaker. Ideally, we nominate 1 person from each session to write it up after the summit. Thoughts?
17:20:52 <timsim> +1
17:21:05 <bharath> +2
17:21:17 <Kiall> And - What else can we do to improve the outcome of summit discussions?
17:21:34 <mugsie> ++
17:21:47 <Kiall> I'm suprised I don't hear mugsie's keyboard going 100mph with ideas for this one ;)
17:21:51 <mugsie> revisit the etherpad in the following weeks
17:22:17 <timsim> Make sure the objective and content to be discussed is clear going in. Have a document that people should have read, and be ready to discuss. Clearly document the discussion/output.
17:22:22 <mugsie> so 2 weeks after, have  one of the IRC meets where we work through each etherpad and add any extra detail - also make sure BPs are filed etc
17:22:44 <timsim> Sounds good
17:22:59 <Kiall> mugsie: Yea, using the meet (or 2) after for housekeeping seems like a good idea
17:23:16 <bharath> yeah, a followup two weeks after sounds good
17:23:17 <jmcbride1> we could try one of these for one of the meetings: http://agilecoffee.com/leancoffee/
17:23:40 <Kiall> jmcbride1: I'm going to have to read that after the meet ;) Way too long!
17:24:01 <jmcbride1> Lean coffee basically forces a time limit on specific topics and gives everyone in the room a chance to vote on whether to proceed.
17:24:03 <Kiall> Got a TLDR?
17:24:06 <jmcbride1> tldr
17:24:37 <Kiall> Sounds reasonable to me.. Will read after the meet :)
17:24:59 <Kiall> Any other suggestions for how to ensure we follow through post-summit? :)
17:25:43 <mugsie> make sure 5 mins befor the end the etherpad is acurate ;)
17:25:54 <mugsie> (of the session)
17:26:06 <mugsie> none of this "is the the right sample of JSON??
17:26:08 <mugsie> "
17:26:18 <Kiall> mugsie: that's actually a really good idea. If we get to -5mins, and discussing is still ongoing, it's not going to be resolved. Let's use that time to ensure the pad is up to date.
17:26:33 <Kiall> That way, we can at least continue post-summit or off-track
17:26:41 * mugsie always has good ideas, thank you very much
17:26:50 * Kiall says nothing
17:26:58 <Kiall> Okay, If there's no more.. Let's move on...
17:27:05 <Kiall> #topic Open Discussion
17:27:11 <Kiall> Any other off agenda items?
17:27:18 <mugsie> one quick one
17:27:19 <mugsie> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182414/
17:27:32 <mugsie> and the sample outpout http://docs-draft.openstack.org/14/182414/3/check/gate-designate-docs/cbf0c4b//doc/build/html/support-matrix.html
17:27:56 <mugsie> for graded backend - comments / queries etc please. would like to get this in early this cycle
17:28:22 <Kiall> ++ we discussed the general idea at the Seattle mid-cycle, and finally seeing it "happen" :)
17:29:17 <timsim> Looks pretty good
17:29:19 <vinod> Are the current statuses - Integrated etc being used in other openstack projects too?
17:29:24 * Kiall never knows how long to "wait" before moving on.. I can't hear anyone typing ;)
17:29:55 <Kiall> http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html is Nova's similar page
17:30:10 <mugsie> vinod: not fully
17:30:21 <timsim> Psh. -1 mugsie no fancy green checkmarks
17:30:31 <mugsie> timsim: its en-route
17:30:36 <Kiall> cinder has a similar idea AFAIK, but I don't believe they finished it out
17:30:42 <mugsie> formating needs to be cleaned :(
17:30:54 * mugsie can't remember CSS anymore
17:31:28 <ducttape_> I think there will be some tagging, similar to that stuff, used by operators too
17:32:26 <mugsie> yeah. I think this does give us a base level of "supported" to have though. We cna cnage the grades easily enough in the futre if we need to fit in to something else
17:32:31 <Kiall> ducttape_: yea, the goal is to set expectations for those of us not intimitaly familar with Designate's code, and encourage "poor performers" to get better :)
17:32:36 <mugsie> its all pretty much in the ini file
17:32:46 <mugsie> and the backends themselves
17:33:52 <Kiall> Okay.. I have 1 off agenda - Can people start adding agenda items again? I feel like I keep adding them all ;)
17:34:35 <ducttape_> link for that?  etherpad?
17:34:42 <Kiall> 'link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Designate
17:34:45 <Kiall> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Designate
17:35:27 <Kiall> Okay.. Any other off-agenda items?
17:36:21 <timsim> I'm good
17:36:36 <vinod> nope
17:36:56 <rjrjr> i'm good.
17:37:01 <Kiall> Okay.. Silence = No in this case.. For the folks coming to Vancouver, see you next week! For everyone else, next week's meeting will be cencelled.
17:37:21 <mugsie> o/
17:37:22 <timsim> o/
17:37:23 <Kiall> Email kiall@hp.com if your attending and want to be kept in the loop on off-track stuff
17:37:31 <Kiall> (I'm going to get SOO much spam)
17:37:36 <Kiall> Thanks all!
17:37:47 <Kiall> #endmeeting