17:00:06 <Kiall> #startmeeting Designate 17:00:13 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jun 24 17:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Kiall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:15 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:00:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'designate' 17:00:22 <Kiall> Hey folks - Who's about today? 17:00:24 <elarson> o/ 17:00:28 <federico3> o/ 17:00:30 <Kiall> #link Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Designate 17:00:48 <Kiall> mugsie / timsim / vinod1 - about? 17:00:53 <timsim> o/ 17:01:09 * elarson gueses vinod is sleeping 17:01:09 <mugsie> o/ 17:01:12 <Kiall> mlavalle is at the neutron mid-cycle, so won't be around 17:01:22 <ducttape_> o/ 17:01:46 <Kiall> Okay.. A few short.. No worries :) 17:02:12 <ducttape_> how many are in the neutron mid-cycle? 17:02:15 <Kiall> #topic Action Items from last week 17:02:15 <Kiall> Uhm, 1 item, carried over twice, on me.. Document datbase rework goals. 17:02:47 <Kiall> I've still not managed time to get knock that out yet :( It *will* happen before the next meet 17:02:59 <Kiall> #action kiall Really do the DB rework write up.. 17:03:15 <Kiall> #topic Bug triage (timsim - recurring) 17:03:31 <timsim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1463988 17:03:32 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1463988 in keystonemiddleware "oslo.config version error in kilo" [Undecided,New] 17:03:41 <Kiall> ducttape_: about 15 from the looks of the Neutron etherpad 17:04:21 <timsim> I think this is confirmed? 17:04:41 <Kiall> timsim: that's open against KS middleware, but it seems there's some argument that we're doing it wrong! Unsure right now 17:05:01 <timsim> Yeah. lifeless was the one who pointed that out 17:05:34 <mugsie> yeah. i think confirmed for us is ok 17:05:36 <Kiall> Yea, while he may be right.. I think there's still an issue that the KS middleware package's kilo branch isn't capping it's requirements to kilo versions 17:05:37 <timsim> I'll move to confirmed in the Designate bits 17:05:44 <timsim> Agreed 17:05:54 <timsim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1466265 17:05:55 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1466265 in Designate "designate python client is not showing proper help message when authentication environment variable are missing" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to pradeep kumar singh (pradeep-singh-u) 17:06:00 <timsim> I think this is a dupe of.... 17:06:11 <timsim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-designateclient/+bug/1268310 17:06:12 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1268310 in python-designateclient "Cryptic message if keystone is missing an endpoint for designate" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Kiall Mac Innes (kiall) 17:06:28 <mugsie> high, triaged 17:06:30 <timsim> Well not quite... 17:06:32 <Kiall> I think there different, one is where designate is missing from the catalog 17:06:40 <mugsie> its related, but separate 17:06:41 <Kiall> vs not supplying creds to access the catalog 17:06:53 <timsim> I'll move it to the client, high, triaged? 17:06:58 <mugsie> ++ 17:07:34 <timsim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1466300 17:07:35 <openstack> timsim: Error: malone bug 1466300 not found 17:08:13 <Kiall> timsim: private security issue, move to public + High 17:08:19 <timsim> ok 17:08:30 <timsim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1466545 17:08:32 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1466545 in Designate "Zone filtering by TTL, Description & Status" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Mimi Lee (mimi-lee) 17:08:38 <Kiall> It's not something exploitable, just that a security feature is too secure (and lets nobody in ;)) 17:09:09 <mugsie> low, l-1, triaged 17:09:13 <mugsie> l-2* 17:09:21 <mugsie> seen as l-1 just got released 17:09:22 <Kiall> l-1? lol that was released earlier today. 17:09:52 <timsim> It's pretty important, we could backport ;) 17:10:01 <timsim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1466649 17:10:02 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1466649 in Designate "Cannot filter on blacklists, records, & tlds" [Undecided,New] 17:10:43 <Kiall> Same again I think 17:10:46 <mugsie> I think we need to start returning 400 bad request when we are asked to filter by stuiff that is not supported 17:10:53 <Kiall> mugsie: ++ 17:10:57 <timsim> agreed mugsie 17:11:00 <mugsie> instead of just ignoring it 17:11:10 <Kiall> right now, we discard the extra filters and process as if they didn't get supplied. 17:11:16 <timsim> Would you do the honors of filing that mugsie? 17:11:17 <Kiall> Which just isn't right :) 17:11:33 <timsim> That's all the bugs :) 17:11:39 <mugsie> timsim: sure 17:12:58 <Kiall> Okay, while we're on "bugs" - I've tagged a bunch low-hanging-fruit, people probably saw my mail spam, we should start keeping that up to date too :) 17:13:23 <Kiall> I think most of jmcbride's ended up with that tag ;) 17:13:36 <timsim> Yeah that's a good thing to have 17:13:55 <Kiall> Okay - Moving on to a new recurring section :) Intro this week, rather than starting it this week 17:13:59 <Kiall> #topic Stable Backport triage (kiall - recurring) 17:14:40 <Kiall> I'd like to see us actually start maintaining the stable branches! Better for everyone if known bugs are fixed in the stable release, distros will love us, production clouds will too ;) 17:15:30 <Kiall> So - I'd like to suggest that, each week, we take 5 mins to review the changes landed the previous week and nominate changes for backport. I'll produce a list of these each week, starting from today for next weeks meeting - to keep it short. 17:15:34 <Kiall> Thoughts? 17:15:54 <elarson> +1 17:15:55 <mugsie> sound sane 17:16:03 <mimi> +1 17:16:21 <timsim> Good idea 17:16:42 <Kiall> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11768802/ <-- Current diff from kilo -> master 17:17:15 <federico3> +1 I'd suggest to advertise that stable releases are maintained and for how long 17:17:27 <Kiall> Too many to go through in the meeting today, but if we can review offline and propose backports for stuff before today 17:17:54 <mugsie> federico3: we maintain stable branches for 1 year by default in OpenStack 17:18:04 <Kiall> federico3: there's a doc on that, somewhere I cant remember right now 17:18:13 <mugsie> but juno will be supported for a bit longer (in debian at least) 17:18:18 <Kiall> Phase I (first 6 months): All bugfixes which are appropriate 17:18:18 <Kiall> Phase II (6-12 months): Only critical bugfixes and security patches are acceptable 17:18:18 <Kiall> Phase III (more than 12 months): Only security patches are acceptable 17:18:24 <Kiall> from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch 17:18:39 <ekarlso> o/ btw 17:18:44 <Kiall> Hey ekarlso :) 17:19:52 <Kiall> Okay, so, expect to find a etherpad link in the Agenda before next weeks meeting, it will have the the commits in it.. We can tear through them, not 1 by 1, but individually, and then come back and nominate + assign 17:19:55 <Kiall> Okay - Moving on :) 17:20:12 <Kiall> #topic Ceilometer / Zone Exists Spec (kiall) 17:20:14 <Kiall> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188018/ 17:20:33 <Kiall> and the first piece of this 17:20:35 <Kiall> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193909 17:20:57 <Kiall> I'd like to make sure everyone is happy with the spec, and that it's merged before we start merging code ;) 17:21:51 <Kiall> ekarlso's been working on these for the last few days, I hope to see it all done + merged before we meet again :) 17:22:17 <Kiall> So - Can people go review that spec ;) Not necessarily right now, but soon pls! 17:22:36 <timsim> I looked at that spec once, but I'd like to do so again, will put it on my list for this afternoon 17:22:46 <mugsie> yeah, me too 17:23:04 <mugsie> have time this evening / tonight, so will do a spree of reviews 17:23:12 <Kiall> thanks - also timsim - vinod is great at finding issues, if he's in the office ask him to aswell please :) 17:24:28 <Kiall> Also - It's totally failing test right now - but stuff like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194705/ has become 100x easier once Tooz is in :) 17:24:46 <Kiall> Okay, moving on from my plee for reviews :P 17:24:48 <Kiall> #topic Open Discussion 17:24:57 <timsim> Will do, I think he's travelling from india. Will get him a message 17:25:15 <Kiall> timsim: he better delay his flight to get it done! ;) 17:25:20 <Kiall> kidding.. Leave him be! 17:25:31 <Kiall> Okay Any other off agenda topics from others? 17:25:50 <Kiall> I have one - welcome federico3 :) He's joined HP this week on the DNS team.. 17:26:11 <Kiall> federico3, I'm gonna put you on the spot and ask you to introduce yourself ;) 17:26:16 * federico3 bows deeply 17:26:24 <timsim> o/ federico3 17:27:02 <federico3> hello everybody :D 17:27:49 <Kiall> ducttape_: still about? re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193800/ - new Horizon repo testing.. How familar with Django testing etc are you guys? Because I know nothing ;) I'm hoping we can try and clean up + extend the tests once that lands. 17:28:15 <ducttape_> I am familiar, I have the scars to show 17:28:24 <ducttape_> ;) 17:29:08 <ducttape_> running django tests are weird, at least for most of the horizon stuff. I'm 100% of favor in updating tests, I have not so far, b/c I didn't have the threat of verification jobs 17:29:16 <Kiall> ducttape_: lol, that's how I feel looking at the current limited tests :) I'm hoping someone who knows how it *should* look can help us out to rework it, then we can actually just follow the right patterns for new stuff.. Know anyone who might be able to help? ;) 17:29:44 <ducttape_> yeah I can do that. I didn't download that patch and work on it just yet 17:30:02 <ducttape_> it's similar (from what I saw) to what monasca is also doing 17:30:17 <ducttape_> I work with both of those things, can try to get something working 17:30:23 <Kiall> I think that one should land as is - then enable the gates - and start any cleanup/rework/new tests.. Everything passes with that change, so it's a good point to turn the voting gate jobs on at 17:30:38 <ducttape_> +1 17:30:59 <ducttape_> from there we can just worry about increasing coverage 17:31:35 <Kiall> Okay - thanks ducttape_ :) much appreciated 17:31:45 <Kiall> Okay - Any other off agenda items? I'm out 17:31:52 <elarson> Kiall: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192267/ 17:31:53 <Kiall> (out of off agenda stuff) 17:32:01 <ducttape_> I would say thank you, but it means I will have to really worry about tests :p 17:32:15 <mugsie> mid-cycle - if we are having one we need to start planning 17:32:36 <mugsie> give people time to badger management / book stuff 17:32:42 <Kiall> elarson: Ah, I thought I replied to you on that one and voted +2.. I must have forgot the last bit 17:33:09 <elarson> Kiall: ah ok. 17:33:10 <Kiall> Once you explained, it made perfect sense. It's the edge case for during initilization rather than the norm :) 17:33:20 <elarson> right. 17:33:22 * Kiall quickly adds his +2 17:33:46 <elarson> I do think a pre-logging loaded bit could generally be helpful, but I can submit that to oslo_log 17:34:13 <elarson> Kiall: thanks! 17:34:14 <Kiall> elarson: yea, that works :) 17:34:23 <Kiall> mugsie: yep, mid-cycle.. Anyone have thougts on that one? 17:34:23 <Kiall> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints 17:35:20 <Kiall> I'm guessing nodoby can commit to anything right here today, but, anyone interested in doing one, let's get that conversation going with your managers ;) 17:35:59 <Kiall> Anyone able to say "Yep, I'm interested" yet? 17:36:41 * elarson is interested 17:36:44 <Kiall> That's a no then... Okay, will circle back to this next week.. Think about it so :) 17:37:03 <Kiall> #action put mid-cycle on next week agena 17:37:23 <Kiall> Anything else before we call it a day? 17:38:02 <Kiall> Okay, thanks all.. See you in #openstack-dns :) 17:38:10 <Kiall> #endmeeting