19:01:09 <spotz> #startmeeting diversity-wg
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19:01:17 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg'
19:01:39 <spotz> fungi was in the UC meeting:) And send your info for mentoring to nicole:)
19:01:46 <spotz> #topic roll call
19:02:18 <ellopunk> \o
19:02:22 <aprice> o/
19:02:36 <mrhillsman> o/
19:02:46 * ildikov is lurking :)
19:02:51 <spotz> :)
19:02:59 <ellopunk> ooops I feel like I raised the wrong hand. o/
19:03:06 <spotz> We've got a short agenda, but I think I said that last time too:)
19:03:12 <mrhillsman> hehe
19:03:20 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda
19:03:44 <fungi> yeah, i have your initial e-mail about mentor details flagged, just need to find time to paste my openstack speaker bio in there or something
19:04:18 <fungi> (the questions are very though-provoking, but also not something i have prewritten)
19:04:27 <spotz> We'll wait 1 more minutes and then start
19:04:46 <spotz> fungi - they're for little baseball cards to give out to the mentees, don't need to be long
19:05:07 <spotz> #topic Summit Events
19:05:10 <fungi> shorter prose is just that much harder. so much distillation required ;)
19:05:21 <spotz> #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=diversity
19:06:14 <spotz> We have 4 events at summit tagged for Diversity. The first is a pre-summit social Happy hour on Sunday that you need to RSVP for
19:07:38 <spotz> It's the first diversity even we've held, there used to be a WoO even up until Austin so can't say what atendence will be like, but it'd be nice if we had a good showing in case folks want to talk
19:08:19 <fungi> i'm looking forward to it
19:08:59 <fungi> i get the impression we'll have at least a fair number of foundation staff present
19:09:02 <ellopunk> I'll be there so if I can help please let me know
19:09:03 <spotz> I'm hoping if it goes well and positively we'll be able to find a sponsor for it going forward
19:09:10 <ildikov> I hope I'll be able to make it to the second half!
19:09:27 <ildikov> spotz: +1
19:09:29 <spotz> Erin and everyone I met up with were quite stoked about it:)
19:09:30 <fungi> we also made sure to do the leadership happy hour the night before so as not to conflict wit the diversity wg event
19:09:59 <fungi> i'm hoping that improves attendance from community leaders
19:09:59 <spotz> Someone so needs to just hand me a list of where and when I need to be places:)
19:10:27 <ellopunk> I started adding them to my google calendar like appointments just to make sure I don't double book.
19:10:53 <ildikov> I put together my schedule an hour ago
19:10:57 <spotz> While not totally related I do want to mention I brought up the idea of a diversiy lunch vs WoO lunch and it was very well received on the WoO side
19:10:59 <ildikov> I don't want to see it again...
19:11:42 <ildikov> spotz: you mean to extend the WoO lunch into a diversity one?
19:11:50 <spotz> There is already a sponsor for the WoO lunch in Berlin, Erin was going to see if they'd be open to broadening or we could plan to start the summit after
19:12:01 <spotz> ildikov: yeah
19:12:47 <spotz> I try to have a neutral stance between the 2 groups so no conflict of interest. Was really pleased by the reception to the idea
19:12:49 <ildikov> spotz: sounds good, I like the idea of broadening the scope
19:12:59 <fungi> my current puzzle is trying to figure out if my tuesday lunch slot is open to give an impromptu talk
19:13:16 <fungi> ahh, summits
19:13:26 <spotz> I don't know who the current sponsor is but Erin was going to see if they'd be interested for Berlin
19:13:56 <spotz> fungi: Mon - speed mentoring, tues - git and gerrit, wed WoO, thurs community awards... Ok back on focus:)
19:14:19 <fungi> spotz: hrm, yeah i did say i could be around for git and gerrit questions
19:14:36 <spotz> So the next diversity event is the Diversity Panel, it'd be nice to have folks in the audience if possible
19:14:44 <spotz> fungi: Go give your talk:)
19:14:55 <spotz> aprice: you want to mention anything on this?
19:15:30 <fungi> but then ildikov is going to ask the "why do we recommend git-review" question and i totally won't be there to explain ;)
19:16:01 <ildikov> fungi: yeah, we need someone to answer that one!! :)
19:16:25 <spotz> hehe
19:16:42 <spotz> give Allison another minute or 2 to type then we'll move on:)
19:19:00 <spotz> Right after the panel will be a Chasing Grace screening so we'll all be running to the new location. I haven't seen it yet but have heard very good things
19:21:00 <spotz> The last diversity tagged event will be our WG session on Wednesday, again would love for as many folks to attend as possible. Maybe start the session with the what came out of the first survey, that there is a new one coming out and what we hope we'll get out of it and then spending most of the time question and answer?
19:21:47 <spotz> Any thoughts/ideas?
19:22:21 <aprice> sorry! have two meetings going on at the same time
19:22:31 <spotz> aprice: No worries:)
19:23:27 <aprice> I dont think I have anything to mention on the diversity panel - we have spotz, Joseph Sandoval, one of the Black Boys Code founders, the director for the Chasing Grace project and Nithya Ruff participating
19:23:35 <aprice> would of course welcome folks to attend & ask questions :)
19:25:24 <fungi> my security ci/cd fundamentals panel got moved to tuesday, so i've totally earmarked the diversity session now that i don't have any conflicts
19:25:33 <spotz> mrhillsman: By any chance did you ever hear back from Bryan about the buddy system and if they were interested? It's probably too late now to organize it but if we continue to have a diversity group sponsored at summit I'd like to get something organized or outlined in advance
19:26:23 <aprice> fungi: awesome!
19:26:39 <fungi> i'm happy to be a "buddy" if students want to follow me around and be bored, but that's probably not the most positive of introductions to the community
19:28:16 <mrhillsman> spotz i have not heard any confirmation unfortunately for it to be well organized
19:28:32 <spotz> hehehe, well we could have a meetup on first morning, group walk to Keynotes, table at lunch, etc. If we do decide to do something like this in the future. Now mind you WoO used to have tables for lunch and they were usually sat in already
19:28:37 <mrhillsman> we did not talk last week due to scheduling conflict
19:28:44 <spotz> mrhillsman: Okie we'll think about in the future then:)
19:28:48 <mrhillsman> yeah
19:28:51 <mrhillsman> agreed
19:29:09 <spotz> Anything else on Summit?
19:29:56 <mrhillsman> not sure how much info is available from diversity study on conf attendees but i'll gather what i can post summit in hopes it will help with the demographic of attendees bryan pulls in should he be able to
19:30:23 <mrhillsman> for future attempt/work at buddy system
19:30:53 <spotz> there's numbers on women I know for sure, we can probably also do from where people are coming form country wise, not sure if there's data that goes any deeper
19:32:34 <spotz> That might be an Erin or Claire question, we can see what they collect
19:32:50 <fungi> geographic info definitely, we run numbeers on that after every event
19:32:59 <fungi> er, numbers too
19:33:06 <fungi> but numbeers for sure
19:33:39 <spotz> fungi: Do you know if you can correlate information so like women with this job title, how many people from UK were C level? Is there that type of linkage?
19:34:01 <fungi> spotz: that might require some pattern matching on the titles since they're freeform
19:34:25 <spotz> ok
19:34:34 <fungi> but aside from that challenge i think the organizers have access to all the data they'd need to do that, just need to have sufficient time on their hands
19:35:03 <spotz> fungi: Yeah I'm trying not to bug them until after summit:)
19:35:11 <fungi> it's presumably something we can ask for (at least a breakdown of title and location or similar)
19:35:31 <fungi> (er, title and gender and location combos even)
19:35:36 <spotz> Anyone else have anything summit related?
19:35:46 <spotz> we're at 25 minutes left?
19:36:40 <spotz> #topic Survey
19:37:40 <spotz> aprice has been swamped so I'll address the survey going out after summit. Just wanted to give everyone an update. I think once we have method of distribution it's just a matter of combining etherpads
19:37:54 <aprice> i can actually provide an update here, too :)
19:37:59 <spotz> Woot!
19:38:08 <aprice> i got approval to work with CHAOSS, so we just need to work with them on NDAs
19:38:11 <spotz> And I was letting you f=off
19:38:18 <spotz> Cool
19:38:33 <aprice> im also working on getting the survey from the etherpad into surveymonkey if we are ok to use that
19:39:06 <spotz> aprice yeah it's al ittle jumbled between them, if you want me to consolidate let me know
19:39:13 <aprice> ok sounds good
19:39:21 <aprice> so there's movement :)
19:39:35 <spotz> I know the questions for some are one ether but the choices on another:)
19:39:53 <spotz> So yeah forward movement on the survey!
19:40:04 <aprice> thank you for all of your patience :)
19:40:13 <spotz> And I'm gonna do my best not to miss tomorrows CHAOSS meeting
19:40:22 <spotz> I can't tell time apparently
19:41:34 <spotz> #topic Open Discussion
19:41:52 <spotz> Any one have anything they want to discuss that's new or we already touched on?
19:43:35 <spotz> Ok everyone can have 17 minutes back and not have to put up with my bad typing:)
19:43:39 <spotz> #endmeeting