19:00:39 <spotz> #startmeeting diversity-wg
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19:00:49 <spotz> #topic roll call
19:01:08 <spotz> I know it's a light agenda and aprice is still in the UC meeting we're having
19:01:32 <aprice> o/
19:01:48 <aprice> I will bounce between but did want to provide an update on the survey since that's the main agenda item
19:02:14 <spotz> Yeah, we'll see if anyone shows. We can alsways do the update for the log and then close it out
19:02:37 <aprice> sounds good
19:02:45 * fungi showed
19:02:54 <fungi> (better late than never!)
19:03:02 <mrhillsman> o/
19:03:07 <spotz> fungi: Hey
19:03:10 <cemason> \o
19:03:22 <spotz> hey mrhillsman (our fellow double meeting person:))
19:03:26 <spotz> welcome cemason
19:03:43 <cemason> hello  :)
19:06:47 <spotz> Ok aprice is talking in the other channel so I'll get us started over here and then we'll do her update on the survey
19:07:15 <spotz> #topic Diversity Related Suggestions
19:08:22 <spotz> So per my action item from last meeting I emailed Erin, claire, and KendallW so see if it would be possible to get at least our top 2 asks. Alcohol free area and no photos please with the gender pronouns as a third ask
19:09:00 <spotz> So far no reply to that email or my follow up one so I'll hit them up again. I'm not sure if they were at the events or on vacation last week
19:10:30 <spotz> I know there was positive feedback to the alcohol free suggestion during the feedback session so I think at least that we could have by Berlin and possibly if needed the PTG
19:11:04 <aprice> spotz: I can ping them since I am sitting with Kendall now :)
19:11:32 <spotz> aprice: Ok ping when you can
19:11:51 <spotz> You ready here aprice?
19:11:51 <aprice> I think that I am done in the UC meeting, so I can provide an update now
19:12:01 <spotz> #topic Diversity Survey update
19:12:26 <aprice> I took the questions that were in the etherpad and put them in SurveyMonkey and would love some testers and feedback: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity
19:12:52 <aprice> several of the questions are conditional so if you select yes / no, your next question may vary if we added an optional "provide more information" followup
19:12:57 <spotz> #link https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity
19:13:25 <aprice> one thing that I did want to note: there were places that we did not indicate "Prefer not to say" and I think that we should either add to all or make sure that all of the questions that should have it do
19:14:01 <aprice> I think I added it to one question that didn't have it since I thought it should, but happy to make any changes
19:14:15 <spotz> aprice yeah and I'll add on, if you're going through and think a question needs an other added, or to be multiple response and it's not let us know as well
19:14:27 <aprice> the other thing I need to figure out is the country question. It is currently open ended, but I am planning to do a dropdown with all of the options
19:14:33 <aprice> spotz ++
19:14:54 <spotz> Yeah that needs a dropdown or we'll be evaluating it by hand for amonth
19:15:30 <aprice> yeah, I couldnt get the comprehensive list to copy for me earlier, so I went with a placeholder :)
19:15:56 <fungi> i recall there were also concerns expressed in the last meeting that the americentric ethnicity checklist (from the usa census bureau) might not make sense in a more global context, but in general the survey is looking good. thanks!
19:16:10 <spotz> I don't want to put the link out on the mailing list, but I'll put it in the channel topic
19:16:40 <spotz> fungi: I thought you guys removed it after the meeting ended when you and okiko were still working on it?
19:17:08 <spotz> But yeah at the CHAOSS meeting we talked about the importance of the question but no one had a really great way of wording it yet
19:17:16 <fungi> i still see it in the draft survey there
19:18:07 <spotz> Ahh I thought you were putting notes on the etherpad so had communicated that to aprice. We'll pull it for now
19:18:45 <aprice> yep - I can pull it
19:19:08 <spotz> But that's kinda why I'd like folks on the channel to go through it without putting it on the Foundation list and thinking it's ready
19:19:32 <aprice> +1
19:19:47 <fungi> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_draft
19:19:49 <fungi> that pad, right?
19:20:04 <spotz> Being on the Foundation list is great for us being transparent but not so much for us doing planning:)
19:20:13 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_final
19:20:16 <aprice> oh I was pulling from here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_final
19:20:32 <fungi> aha, thanks, yes i was looking at the old one, sorry
19:20:35 <spotz> final has all the ethers pulled together
19:21:41 <fungi> i noted pulling out the ethnicity one in the final pad now, sorry we didn't note that in there sooner
19:22:14 <spotz> no prob, appreciated you two continuing when we ran over and I had to bail
19:22:50 <cemason> can anyone add feedback to the etherpad?
19:24:17 <spotz> cemason: Yep though we're really at the clean up stage to get this released
19:24:37 <aprice> ok - I removed the ethnicity question from the survey so if you refresh or retake, it should be gone
19:24:39 <spotz> Unless we've totally messed up and need to scrap
19:25:30 <spotz> Anything else on the survey if not I'll move us to open discussion
19:26:07 <fungi> i've got nothing. excellent progress!
19:27:04 <cemason> just noticed one small technical thing and made a note. thanks
19:27:54 <spotz> Sweet thanks cemason. I'll admit we've been working on it since December so will be happy to get it out the door:)
19:28:04 <spotz> #topic Open Discussion
19:28:31 <spotz> Anyone have anything? So we attempt to do something at PTG/OPS meetup?
19:28:49 <spotz> So=should... no I don't know where the other letters went...
19:31:08 <mrhillsman> :)
19:31:33 <fungi> i'll be at the ptg/ops meetup and happy to join in any discussions as long as they don't overlap something else i absolutely have to be in
19:32:07 <mrhillsman> same
19:32:48 <spotz> Maybe we can snag a table during lunch or during a break and just be avaialble if needed.
19:34:05 <spotz> Anyone have anything else? Otherwise folks can have 25 minutes back
19:34:22 <fungi> i'm up for any of those options, but the ptg is really designed to make it easy for us to conveniently schedule ad hoc meetings so don't _have_ to overload a lunch break (unlike the summit/forum)
19:34:40 <spotz> My first one:)
19:35:47 <fungi> we have an irc bot which can schedule stuff for you. it's awesome
19:36:26 <spotz> Cool beans
19:36:45 <fungi> #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/README.rst
19:36:47 <spotz> Ok I'm gonna close this out, thanks for coming everyone and the survey feedback!
19:36:54 <fungi> thanks spotz!
19:36:56 <spotz> #endmeeting