19:00:39 #startmeeting diversity-wg 19:00:40 Meeting started Mon Jun 18 19:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 19:00:43 The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg' 19:00:49 #topic roll call 19:01:08 I know it's a light agenda and aprice is still in the UC meeting we're having 19:01:32 o/ 19:01:48 I will bounce between but did want to provide an update on the survey since that's the main agenda item 19:02:14 Yeah, we'll see if anyone shows. We can alsways do the update for the log and then close it out 19:02:37 sounds good 19:02:45 * fungi showed 19:02:54 (better late than never!) 19:03:02 o/ 19:03:07 fungi: Hey 19:03:10 \o 19:03:22 hey mrhillsman (our fellow double meeting person:)) 19:03:26 welcome cemason 19:03:43 hello :) 19:06:47 Ok aprice is talking in the other channel so I'll get us started over here and then we'll do her update on the survey 19:07:15 #topic Diversity Related Suggestions 19:08:22 So per my action item from last meeting I emailed Erin, claire, and KendallW so see if it would be possible to get at least our top 2 asks. Alcohol free area and no photos please with the gender pronouns as a third ask 19:09:00 So far no reply to that email or my follow up one so I'll hit them up again. I'm not sure if they were at the events or on vacation last week 19:10:30 I know there was positive feedback to the alcohol free suggestion during the feedback session so I think at least that we could have by Berlin and possibly if needed the PTG 19:11:04 spotz: I can ping them since I am sitting with Kendall now :) 19:11:32 aprice: Ok ping when you can 19:11:51 You ready here aprice? 19:11:51 I think that I am done in the UC meeting, so I can provide an update now 19:12:01 #topic Diversity Survey update 19:12:26 I took the questions that were in the etherpad and put them in SurveyMonkey and would love some testers and feedback: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity 19:12:52 several of the questions are conditional so if you select yes / no, your next question may vary if we added an optional "provide more information" followup 19:12:57 #link https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity 19:13:25 one thing that I did want to note: there were places that we did not indicate "Prefer not to say" and I think that we should either add to all or make sure that all of the questions that should have it do 19:14:01 I think I added it to one question that didn't have it since I thought it should, but happy to make any changes 19:14:15 aprice yeah and I'll add on, if you're going through and think a question needs an other added, or to be multiple response and it's not let us know as well 19:14:27 the other thing I need to figure out is the country question. It is currently open ended, but I am planning to do a dropdown with all of the options 19:14:33 spotz ++ 19:14:54 Yeah that needs a dropdown or we'll be evaluating it by hand for amonth 19:15:30 yeah, I couldnt get the comprehensive list to copy for me earlier, so I went with a placeholder :) 19:15:56 i recall there were also concerns expressed in the last meeting that the americentric ethnicity checklist (from the usa census bureau) might not make sense in a more global context, but in general the survey is looking good. thanks! 19:16:10 I don't want to put the link out on the mailing list, but I'll put it in the channel topic 19:16:40 fungi: I thought you guys removed it after the meeting ended when you and okiko were still working on it? 19:17:08 But yeah at the CHAOSS meeting we talked about the importance of the question but no one had a really great way of wording it yet 19:17:16 i still see it in the draft survey there 19:18:07 Ahh I thought you were putting notes on the etherpad so had communicated that to aprice. We'll pull it for now 19:18:45 yep - I can pull it 19:19:08 But that's kinda why I'd like folks on the channel to go through it without putting it on the Foundation list and thinking it's ready 19:19:32 +1 19:19:47 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_draft 19:19:49 that pad, right? 19:20:04 Being on the Foundation list is great for us being transparent but not so much for us doing planning:) 19:20:13 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_final 19:20:16 oh I was pulling from here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-survey-spring-2018_final 19:20:32 aha, thanks, yes i was looking at the old one, sorry 19:20:35 final has all the ethers pulled together 19:21:41 i noted pulling out the ethnicity one in the final pad now, sorry we didn't note that in there sooner 19:22:14 no prob, appreciated you two continuing when we ran over and I had to bail 19:22:50 can anyone add feedback to the etherpad? 19:24:17 cemason: Yep though we're really at the clean up stage to get this released 19:24:37 ok - I removed the ethnicity question from the survey so if you refresh or retake, it should be gone 19:24:39 Unless we've totally messed up and need to scrap 19:25:30 Anything else on the survey if not I'll move us to open discussion 19:26:07 i've got nothing. excellent progress! 19:27:04 just noticed one small technical thing and made a note. thanks 19:27:54 Sweet thanks cemason. I'll admit we've been working on it since December so will be happy to get it out the door:) 19:28:04 #topic Open Discussion 19:28:31 Anyone have anything? So we attempt to do something at PTG/OPS meetup? 19:28:49 So=should... no I don't know where the other letters went... 19:31:08 :) 19:31:33 i'll be at the ptg/ops meetup and happy to join in any discussions as long as they don't overlap something else i absolutely have to be in 19:32:07 same 19:32:48 Maybe we can snag a table during lunch or during a break and just be avaialble if needed. 19:34:05 Anyone have anything else? Otherwise folks can have 25 minutes back 19:34:22 i'm up for any of those options, but the ptg is really designed to make it easy for us to conveniently schedule ad hoc meetings so don't _have_ to overload a lunch break (unlike the summit/forum) 19:34:40 My first one:) 19:35:47 we have an irc bot which can schedule stuff for you. it's awesome 19:36:26 Cool beans 19:36:45 #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/ptgbot/tree/README.rst 19:36:47 Ok I'm gonna close this out, thanks for coming everyone and the survey feedback! 19:36:54 thanks spotz! 19:36:56 #endmeeting