19:00:23 <spotz> #startmeeting diversity-wg
19:00:24 <openstack> Meeting started Mon Jul  2 19:00:23 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00:25 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:00:28 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg'
19:00:31 <spotz> #topic roll call
19:02:28 <spotz> I'll give folks a few minutes and then call it a holiday week
19:04:38 <ellopunk_web> here! sorry stepped away for a second
19:04:39 <cmurphy> o/
19:04:44 <cmurphy> sorry i'm late
19:12:18 <fungi> quiet meeting ;(
19:12:22 <fungi> ;)
19:16:05 <ellopunk_web> We require a Bard.
19:16:59 <fungi> you don't want to hear me sing
19:17:17 <spotz> heheh well we're on roll call:)
19:17:23 <spotz> And it was just me:)
19:17:48 <spotz> #topic Survey comments
19:18:26 <spotz> ellopunk_web cmurphy fungi - the only thing I really had on the agenda is if anyone had feedback for aprice on the survey
19:18:27 * cdent is somewhere here
19:18:32 <spotz> :)
19:18:50 <spotz> #link https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/OpenStackDiversity
19:18:51 <cdent> my attention is very divided, sadly
19:18:59 * fungi checks for a spare cdent under the sofa cushions
19:19:07 <spotz> poor cdent:(
19:19:36 <cmurphy> my attention is also somewhat on the sportsball
19:20:29 <spotz> I'm arguing with tripleo but didn't want to just cancel with no notice.:(
19:20:54 <spotz> If no one has anything on the survey though we can let a price know we're good to go:)
19:21:18 <fungi> i had no new survey feedback. lgtm
19:21:41 <spotz> Sweet, I thought it looked good too, but the more eyes the merrier
19:21:45 <aprice> awesome
19:22:13 <cmurphy> interesting that only three questions are on the first page before having to click next?
19:22:18 <spotz> #topic survey
19:22:22 <cmurphy> and question 4 is directly related to question 3
19:22:30 <cdent> we could nitpick things like grammatical parallelism in response options, but not worth it
19:22:40 <aprice> cmurphy: it's because of the way survey monkey does it. The next question is based on your answer to the previous question
19:22:51 <aprice> so it often forces a page break so that the next question can appropriately populate
19:23:09 <cmurphy> ah okay
19:23:13 <spotz> We can make note of that if needed on the announcement letter?
19:23:36 <aprice> yeah - what is the plan as far as promoting it? Email to the Foundation list or to the Foundation database?
19:23:36 <cmurphy> i think infra is hosting a new survey tool, any thoughts on using that?
19:25:07 <spotz> fungi?
19:25:24 <spotz> I know I reviewed the docs for it, but not sure the status
19:25:28 <fungi> it's sort of in beta at the moment, and more of a lightweight solution
19:26:08 <fungi> for things like the user survey we probably want to let the foundation continue to use their preferred tools. not sure where on the spectrum of things the diversity survey would fall
19:26:43 <spotz> So staying on surveymonkey seems the best solution for now as I'd really like to get this out and we can discuss moving later if need be
19:26:52 <spotz> ?
19:26:53 <cmurphy> sounds good
19:27:01 <fungi> makes sense to me
19:27:42 <spotz> Ok I'll work up an email and send it to anyone how'd like to proof it so we can hopefully email out this week or next?
19:27:43 <fungi> we have some stub docs for survey creators if and when people are interested at some point in the future
19:27:46 <fungi> #link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/survey.html#admin-survey-user
19:28:01 <spotz> how'd=who'd
19:28:22 <fungi> sounds like a fine plan. thanks spotz!
19:28:33 <spotz> Let me know if you'd like to be involved in the proofing
19:28:46 <aprice> I think that we should hold until next week given the holiday this week - we often see less activity if we send these things during a major holiday
19:28:53 <aprice> I can help proofread
19:29:09 <spotz> aprice: It might take me that long to write and get eyes on it:)
19:29:27 <aprice> perfect :)
19:29:50 <spotz> I just got Nicole the article I was writing that was due mid-June:(
19:30:17 <spotz> Ok anyone else who wants to proof just let me know in channel, by email or DM
19:30:18 <fungi> my to do list backlog doesn't look any better than that
19:30:38 <spotz> #topic open discussion
19:30:46 <fungi> though i did want to mention that the openstack tc has started trying to perform active outreach to various teams, sigs and working groups and i volunteered to be a tc liaison to the diversity wg
19:30:54 <fungi> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_health_tracker#Working_Groups
19:30:57 <fungi> if anybody has anything they think the tc should be aware of (beyond the in-progress diversity survey) or anything we can help with, i'm happy to pass that along
19:31:12 <spotz> Thanks fungi:)
19:31:41 <spotz> We're still waiting to hear back on the list of things we'd like to see initiated for Berlin
19:32:00 <spotz> I'll try to poke agqin and see
19:32:24 <fungi> sounded like the event coordinators were pretty hopeful they could tackle those, at least?
19:32:45 <spotz> I got no reply to initial email or first poke:)(
19:32:50 <spotz> :(
19:32:58 <spotz> I swear I can type!!!
19:33:11 <spotz> So I'll second poke!
19:33:38 <fungi> ahh, i must have misremembered
19:33:43 <spotz> Is there anyone interested in leading the next meeting? I'll be at a work meeting. Otherwise will cancel
19:34:11 <fungi> who are you hitting up on the events side at the foundation? i can follow up out-of-band with questions too
19:34:31 <spotz> fungi: During the feedback session they were in support of the alcohol free area, but we also asked for no photo identifiers and possibly pronoun stickers
19:34:41 <spotz> erin,claire and kendallw
19:34:46 <fungi> okay, thanks!
19:35:55 <spotz> ANd if we get official word, then we can pass the word on those things
19:37:04 <spotz> That would get us a few wins on the table!
19:38:40 <spotz> So next meeting cancelled, I'll follow up with foundation on our asks and write theletter to go with the survey. And fungi is our laison with TC. Just for summary or our rambling:)
19:39:09 <spotz> Anyone have anything else? Otherwise I'll give folks back 15-20 minutes
19:39:30 <fungi> nothing else form me
19:39:33 <fungi> er, from too
19:42:04 <spotz> see typos are catchy
19:42:10 <spotz> #endmeeting