17:04:07 <spotz_> #startmeeting diversity-wg
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17:04:33 <spotz_> Sorry for the late arrival bouncer is acting up
17:04:42 <spotz_> #topic roll call
17:04:49 <SWDevAngel> Hi
17:04:53 <cmurphy> o/
17:05:29 * fungi is around as well
17:05:36 <spotz_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda
17:05:43 <spotz_> Agenda for anyone who needs it
17:07:04 <spotz_> #topic Forum session
17:08:05 <spotz_> We also have WG and BoF sessions we can ask for as well. If we have survey results in time I think we should dedicate the WG session to that
17:08:20 <fungi> that sounds like a good use of our time
17:08:54 <spotz_> In Berlin the Mentoring group used the BoF session, but I'm not sure Jill or Ell will be there and we may need to find new people to help run it
17:09:12 <fungi> you'd rather do diversity survey retrospective as a wg session rather than a forum session?
17:09:41 <spotz_> fungi I'm good with whatever is more appropriate to be honest and I'm not sure which one
17:11:40 <fungi> i suppose it depends on the goal of the session
17:12:10 <fungi> if we want to talk to the community about the survey results and get feedback that's more in line with a forum session
17:12:20 <spotz_> Dissemination of the information and then discussion
17:12:29 <spotz_> Ok so I'll pop that in as a forum session
17:12:36 <fungi> if we want to plan next steps between wg members then a wg session might be more appropriate
17:13:02 <fungi> at least that's my take
17:13:45 <SWDevAngel> And figure out a plan of action. Survey is about gathering data right? So then, what do we do with that information. That type of discussion. And assign AIs
17:14:23 <spotz_> Ok so forum to discuss results and WG for what's next?
17:14:30 * fungi suspects he doesn't know what "AI" means in this context
17:14:43 <fungi> oh, action items. nevermind
17:14:48 <fungi> just got it
17:15:17 <spotz_> Don't feel bad I thought comuters first:)
17:15:41 <fungi> the wg session could certainly be about more than just the survey, while the forum session being focused on one topic is probably best
17:15:51 <spotz_> Do we want to put anything else out there as a forum?
17:16:40 <SWDevAngel> Yeah sorry. No more acronyms. (That one is now used in a different context more often than not. As in... ML/AI. But yeah, in this case I meant we need to assign tasks to people. :)
17:17:21 <spotz_> I think alot will depend on the data we get back, what is actionable etc
17:18:40 <spotz_> llison isn't able to attend this week but she emailed me and we have 149 surveys as of last thursday/friday not sure which as I was on CET
17:19:06 <fungi> llison==aprice?
17:19:16 <spotz_> fungi: Yeah I lost the A:)
17:19:42 <fungi> cool, just making sure. 149 sounds like more than last time we asked
17:19:52 <aprice> yeah they keep trickling in
17:20:01 <spotz_> Yeah each time we've posted something we've gotten a few
17:20:10 <aprice> in another meeting, but can keep an eye here if there any questions / updates
17:20:13 <spotz_> I was trying not to disturb your meeting aprice:)
17:20:39 <aprice> thanks spotz_ :)
17:20:49 <fungi> thanks!!!
17:20:59 <spotz_> So we'll do the forum for the survey and discussion, depending on number of submittals and room available we can always go a bit longer
17:21:32 <spotz_> WG slot state of the union type session and try to get more people involved as always
17:21:49 <SWDevAngel> Do you already know what day that will be?
17:22:17 <spotz_> nope, we can always request and change things up but we haven't even started submitting things yet
17:23:54 <SWDevAngel> Okay. I ask only because I'm not sure my exact dates at Summit. My talk got accepted and of course I'd love to be there for all 3 days but I didn't get mgmt approval to attend the whole time. I will for sure be there on Wednesday for my talk, and maybe some of Tuesday.
17:24:31 <spotz_> I'm going to tentatively save the BoF session for mentoring. diablo_rojo is planning a forum session in relation to all the discussions that took place from the help wanted list I believe so I don't think we need a mentoring forum session on it's own
17:25:32 <spotz_> SWDevAngel: We can requewst later in the week possibly
17:26:54 <SWDevAngel> Okay cool. :)  If that works for everyone else of course.
17:29:29 <SWDevAngel> Uh oh. Did we lose Amy?
17:29:41 <fungi> looks like
17:30:47 <spotz> Yeah hopefully it'll let me still do commands from here;)
17:30:54 <SWDevAngel> Looks like the other agenda items were Summit (sort of already talking about that)  and Open Discussion.
17:30:59 <spotz> Ok anything else about the forum?
17:31:03 <SWDevAngel> Oh cool. Amy's back. :)
17:32:31 <spotz> #topic summit
17:32:39 <fungi> you can `/nick spotz_` (chair permission is based on the nick of whoever initiated the #startmeeting) or just wait for the hour to be up after which any nick can issue a #endmeeting
17:33:38 <spotz> I'll deal with it later:)
17:35:26 <spotz> Ok so summit. Do we know if there's going to be any night stuff besides the mixer we should plan to do an alternative even for?
17:35:34 <SWDevAngel> Did I read correctly that Jill and Ell won't be at Summit? Bummer. Do you know if they are expecting a smaller summit this year? The agenda looks great so far, and DEN is pretty centrally located, so I was thinking this might be a pretty big event!)
17:36:04 <fungi> i'm not sure what the evening events are at this stage
17:36:05 <spotz> Ell's talk didn't get submitted she's not sure what happened
17:36:32 <spotz> She's got a talk in for docker con the same week
17:36:36 <SWDevAngel> I haven't heard of any evening things yet. Probably someone from the foundation would know? Is there an official "planner/organizer of summit" within the foundation?
17:37:03 <SWDevAngel> DockerCon is the SAME week? Wow. We pulled out of DockerCon so that wasn't on my radar.
17:37:29 <spotz> Last time the pub crawl showed up later. I haven't checked eventbrite to see if there's anything yet to be honest
17:38:19 <fungi> yeah, the osf hasn't done any official evening events other than the marketplace mixer in a while. most of the evening festivities end up getting organized independently by sponsors (that berlin pub crawl for example)
17:39:12 <spotz> Speed Mentoring is being sponsored by Intel so I'll check in with Nicole and see if she needs anything from the group but I'm assuming she's heading the effort. IBM is doing the dieversity lunch, I'm not sure who would be the contact over there or if it's really RedHat
17:40:50 <spotz> I'm not sure if Git and Gerrit is happening so those are the sessions we didn't talk about under the Forum topic
17:43:02 <spotz> Right now nothing besides summit itself in eventbrite just checked
17:43:41 <spotz> Anything else on summit?
17:44:31 <spotz> Ok End of Survey topic
17:46:02 <spotz> Survey will end in 3 days so if you thin about it send a tweet out asking for folks to participate if they haven't yet. And once it's over I'll get with Allison and Matt (from CHAOSS) and we'll figure out the best way of getting the data over to the people who signed the confidentiality forms
17:46:40 <spotz> As already mentioned we're at 149, which is probably half that of the originial but we're also a smaller community then we were before Tokyo
17:48:20 <spotz> Anything else on survey or we'll finish the last 10 with open discussion
17:49:31 <SWDevAngel> Is there a handy link or sample tweet we can cut/paste?
17:49:46 * SWDevAngel in the interest of efficiency of course... not laziness! ;)
17:50:47 <spotz> looking
17:52:03 <spotz> I know I have tweeted but not finding it:( I'll keep looking
17:52:13 <SWDevAngel> Okay. I will look too.
17:52:20 <spotz> Any thing else? Don't want to hold the meeting while I look
17:52:55 <SWDevAngel> Is it this one? https://twitter.com/OpenStack/status/1096152430746710016
17:53:16 <spotz> Yeah that'll work:)
17:54:05 <spotz> I retweeted it:)
17:54:21 <SWDevAngel> I will as well, from several accounts. :)
17:54:59 <spotz> Ok for all intents and purposes meeting is over, I'll be around now that the bouncer is back and I'm back home. And I'll start trying to end meeting in 10 minutes:)
17:55:16 <spotz> Thanks everyone for coming!
17:55:27 <SWDevAngel> Sounds good. Thanks for hosting! I'll see you in DEN (at least on the Wednesday. ;)
17:57:20 <fungi> thanks!
17:59:58 <spotz> TIme is really coming fast, the ops meetup is like next week:(
19:01:51 <spotz> #endmeeting