17:05:00 #startmeeting diversity-wg 17:05:01 Meeting started Mon Jul 15 17:05:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:05:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 17:05:04 The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg' 17:05:07 #topic roll call 17:05:51 o/ 17:06:15 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda 17:06:37 Just updated the agenda real quick, 3 items grace hopper, mentoring and Shanghai 17:06:53 #topic Grace Hopper 17:08:11 So Ell will no longer be going to Grace Hopper so we need to find another lead mentor or pull out. I'll be sending out an email to FOundation and discuss lists in the hope of finding someone. If there's a pair who work together I'll let someone go in my place. 17:08:39 Only issue is you need to self fund or your company send you. Grace Hopper only provides the pass and it's in Orlando this year 17:09:43 They are asking for some additional information by 7/21 so I think we need to pull out by then if we're pulling out 17:10:37 Anyone not familiar with Grace Hopper and the Open Source Day? 17:10:39 6 days, by my watch 17:11:20 I'm familiar with Grace Hopper but not the Open Source Day 17:11:55 Yeah, I'm a little messed up after a horse related concussion on Saturday:( So didn't get the email out over the weekend 17:13:18 oh no! 17:13:38 So Open Source Day is an almost all day event on Thursday 10/3. Different projects participate in support of a humanitarian activity. Each project will have X amount of participants who sign up and Y amount of mentors though except for the first year I did it as a helper for Egle no one has known any OpenStack 17:14:14 @Spotz! OMG! 17:14:16 ah ok 17:14:34 So in the past everyone had their own devstack and published a wordpress installation through Heat and then customized it for thei humanitarian effort 17:15:43 From feedback last year, we were going to run through git and gerrit lunch and learn stuff to start and then have teams working on a project to customize a Horizon theme for their humanitarian effort 17:15:57 There's a demo at the end of the day, hence having something showable 17:16:35 CityNetwork has agreed to donating the instance for us to use. 17:17:01 So that's the gist of the session but except for the git and gerrit nothing has been put together yet 17:17:49 and that should have been instances... one for each team 17:18:20 Each project is required to have 2 main mentors, hence we need to find at least 1 more person or pull 17:20:09 If anyone is going and wants to step up that'd be great. The one bad thing is you give up one day of the conference to do this and so do the participants 17:20:38 this might also be worth posting a call for volunteers on the openstack-discuss mailing list? granted we need to know by the end of this week 17:21:15 Yesh I wrote an email up and Kendall reviewed it and then tree... this is the first day I've been out of bed since last week 17:21:24 oof 17:21:37 plus side is I can't remember tree:) 17:22:03 a consolation perhaps, but memory loss is never good 17:22:19 So just wanted to update everyine see if anyone here wanted to step up but I'll get that out next 17:22:48 fungi Well I can't hold it against the horse if I can't remember it. Pretty sure something spooked him and he bolted but that's my guess 17:23:10 Any one have any questions, comments? 17:25:14 #topic Mentoring 17:25:55 Sadly I won't be attending Grace Hopper. 17:26:09 We had a great meeting with Jill, Ell, petevg and megheisler instead of our usual meeting and I think it went well as far as a turnover of information 17:26:14 Amy, that injury sounds serious. Be careful please! 17:26:41 SWDevAngel: Yeah no riding for a month, no driving for.a bit. Hoping to atleast check on the pony today 17:27:20 jimmy suggested checking the osf speakers bureau... here's one who lives in orlando so may not need funding to travel/lodge? https://www.openstack.org/community/speakers/profile/9324/mariaangelica-bracho 17:27:30 diablo_rojo also reached out to Paris from Kubernetes but I don't think we got a reply from her as we'd changed to cohort mentoring based ont heir success 17:28:00 hoetown orando and country japan?:) 17:28:02 er, not sure if that profile means they live in orlando or are from orlando but live in japan 17:28:11 yeah, long shot i guess ;) 17:28:49 I was gonna pay my fight and bum a room and a truck while there so as cheaply as possibly but have friends there 17:29:14 megheisler: Has anything taken place after the meeting you want to mention? 17:29:28 Maria lives in Florida. She works for Red Hat. She's AWESOME!!! 17:30:15 SWDevAngel: Ahh cool, so the Orlando part is probably correct 17:30:16 aha, i think "country: japan" may mean "willing to travel to japan for speaking engagement" 17:30:34 yeah, an email was sent out to people who had previously expressed interest in mentoring/being mentored. We got responses from about five people interested in being mentored and one interested in being a mentor 17:30:56 a small group but still we got responses so that is good 17:31:48 that's not bad at all 17:32:01 Looks like mostof the usual suspects on the mentoring channel but hopefully this small group will be active:) Even if 2 people are active we've made progress 17:32:15 spotz, havent seen a reply yet either 17:32:20 but I might see her in person this week 17:32:25 diablo_rojo: ok 17:32:26 so I can poke her when/if I do 17:33:00 megheisler: If you can encourage them to say hi on the list that might help:) 17:33:17 Anything else anyone want to add? 17:33:48 will do! I also plan to talk to petevg this week and get a set plan for the people who showed interest 17:33:48 Paris you mean? She's SUPER active on the Kubernetes slack channel, so if you ping her there you'll probably get a quick response. Or DM on twitter usually works with her as well. 17:34:20 SWDevAngel: It was an intro type email so ideally we want a reply all:) 17:34:59 great 17:35:18 Ok last tpoic 17:35:22 #topic Summit 17:36:23 I've been seeing lots of emails from the projects to find out if folks were going and whether to get PTG space so I just wanted to put a feeler out if folks were planning on attending. Unless something happens I won't be there 17:37:18 I will also not be there. 17:37:22 i expect to be there unless my visa is rejected or we have more storm disasters this year 17:37:23 depends on a lot of unknowns but i'm moreorless expecting to be there 17:37:49 I will not be there 17:37:51 it's a bad time of year for weather in my neck of the woods, unfortunately 17:38:12 You mean hurricane season fungi?:) 17:38:25 yeah, or hurricane cleanup season at the very least 17:39:39 cmurphy and fungi - I know you both are usually busy. But when the time comes should I see about getting a WG slot? 17:40:30 i would expect to be pretty occupied, not sure it would be worthwhile for fungi and i to have a room just for this 17:40:31 if it's just the two of us then hard to justify, but maybe worth also asking on the ml 17:40:54 I'm not sure if we have sponsorship for the Speed Mentoring and Diversity Lunch yet. 17:42:02 The session would mainly be to see if anyone was interested. Denver we had really good turnout compared to Berlin. I guess we get better turnout in the Spring ones 17:42:06 we'll almost certainly have a new audience in china, so making sure we offer some diversity-related discussion with them would make sense, i just don't know that i'll have the bandwidth to lead the effort 17:42:54 I think it's too early to know if Nicole would be there 17:43:10 i also don't know much about the diversity challenges in the local culture there, so bringing in some folks who are more familiar with that could help? 17:43:27 great idea @fungi! 17:44:01 (i especially have concerns around political sensitivities, and wouldn't want to venture into areas which make trouble for people) 17:45:00 Yeah even though we try to concentrate on the communities needs at hand it's hard to avoid larger issues 17:45:06 i have the impression there's a strong official push for conformity, and that could make some topics challenging to engage on 17:45:44 So it could to some degree be a good thing not to have a large precense:( 17:46:11 aprice: you've been, right? any feel for what we should expect if we want to cover diversity topics in shanghai? 17:47:18 or is it a "western" concept we should try to avoid being particularly vocal about? 17:47:24 i definitely think that it's a fine line. our coworker horace has mentioned that it doesnt always translate well and needs to have some additional context. 17:47:54 i think that it's still worth pursuing, but would definitely want to rely on someone local to help program the content 17:48:30 especially to avoid western assumptions and political sensitivity 17:49:29 great advice. thanks! 17:49:52 This is something you might also want to ask Paris about when you speak to her. She was one of the hosts of the D&I event at KubeCon Barcelona, and may have also hosted the one in Shanghai. If she did, she might have some insight, or could at least point to who was the host who could help advise. 17:50:33 Or Nithya. My guess is that Nithya (and/or Nicole) went to the Open Source Summit which was co-located with KubeCon Shanghai. If they did, they likely did D&I activities there. 17:51:11 And if we keep the issues to more recruiting and outreach from this group and the community vs 'larger' ones we might be ok as well 17:52:11 makes sense 17:52:12 Ok grace hopper email out 17:53:01 thanks spotz! 17:53:04 We definitely don't want to cause issues for anyone especially the foundation but I also don't want us to sit it out even if the only thing we accomplish is the 2 sponsored sessions over lunch 17:53:42 If no one is there to run things that becomes a non-issue 17:54:41 And with international events especially where visas are a concern attendance is always an issue 17:55:13 well, all events are international for most of the people in the world 17:55:59 True:) 17:56:52 4 minutes 17:56:59 #topic Open Discussion 17:59:05 We're hosting an event next week (kinda the OpenStack bday thing) where we're going to do a couple of D&I sessions as lightning talks. We haven't done that in a while in our user group, but last time we did it was really well received. One talk will be on burnout for sure. 17:59:37 are they going to be recorded/published? 17:59:39 which reminds me, @aprice I owe a few emails to Ashlee, etc. I'll try to get to that today. It's been hectic. 17:59:51 SWDevAngel: Major Headon did one at Texas Linuxfest I hear it was well received as most of his talks are 18:00:22 I'll be at the Austin celebration though may need to get hubby to drive me 18:00:29 Yes, we try and record all our meetups. The main talks are on Kata Containers, and Running K8s on OpenStack, and Edge Computing (Akraino) but we're doing community lightning talks also. And cupcakes of course. Should be a fun night! :) 18:01:05 SWDevAngel: cool, i hope someone circulates links to the videos for the rest of the community! those sound great 18:01:06 K8s on OpenStack should be a good one 18:01:14 Yeah, Red Hat is presenting that one 18:01:32 A person who was on the reference architecture group for that topic! We're psyched! 18:01:40 That topic always pulls a crowd. 18:03:03 I need to run to another meeting. Amy PLEASE take care of yourself!!!!! 18:03:21 Your injury sounds serious. Take it wayyyyy easy for a while! 18:03:49 Yeah I think I'mj gonna go nap for a bit. Thanks for coming everyone! 18:03:54 #endmeeting