17:01:00 <spotz> #startmeeting diversity_wg
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17:01:04 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg'
17:01:13 <spotz> And as usual I had to go look to see what our meeting was called:)
17:01:18 <spotz> #topic ROll Call
17:01:27 <fungi> aloha, y'all
17:01:31 <SWDevAngel> Hello! :)
17:01:34 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda
17:01:37 <spotz> Agenda link
17:03:00 <spotz> #topic PTG
17:03:18 <spotz> I looked to see if I could find the spreadsheet really quick but couldn't
17:03:25 <fungi> lemme dig it up
17:03:53 <spotz> I put us in for an hour on the first day (Monday) at 16:00-17:00 as it was the closest to our usual time
17:04:13 <fungi> #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy
17:04:35 <spotz> If everyone wants to check that link and comment if there's a better time
17:04:42 <fungi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014126.html
17:04:55 <fungi> that was the signup announcement with the recommended scheduling guidelines, btw
17:05:20 <spotz> The goal is really just to be available if any of the projects want to come talk about being part of the group and we can hold our regular meeting at the same time
17:06:31 <fungi> that sounds great
17:07:30 <spotz> I thought the signing up had to be done before we met again but I think it's still open if we need to change
17:07:50 <spotz> But I didn't see any conflicts which would keep other projects from popping in
17:08:07 <fungi> it was more about reserving slots before the limits on how many a team could sign up for are loosened
17:08:35 <spotz> And we're pretty easy as we just need 1 slot
17:09:28 <spotz> Any thing else on PTG? Day and time work? Basic plan for what we'll do/cover?
17:11:27 <spotz> Ok next topic. If we need to come back to this we can do it at the end.
17:11:40 <spotz> #topic Possible Channel rename
17:12:57 <spotz> diablorojo popped in one day wondering if we shouldn't rename from openstack-diversity to osf-diversity considering we're not just OpenStack and that we report to the board. fungi and I have touched briefly on the feasibility but wanted thoughts if we can do it should we do it
17:13:54 <SWDevAngel> I've always wondered what you mean by "we report to the board" ???
17:14:14 <fungi> the diversity and inclusion working group is chartered by the osf board of directors
17:14:35 <spotz> So we don't report to the UC or TC
17:15:19 <SWDevAngel> And by "chartered" you mean??? I guess my question is what role they play? How that influences us? Etc. (And yes, kinda same question. Does the UC and TC also "report" to the board?
17:15:22 <spotz> Hence why we're reaching out to the other OSF projects to see if they'd like to me involved in the group
17:15:25 <megheisler> I would agree with that, it should be clear the we are the OSF diversity group and not specific to the openstack project
17:15:26 <fungi> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/014587.html
17:16:02 <fungi> i included some caveats and a bit about renaming process in my reply there
17:16:15 <fungi> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation#Committees_.26_Working_Groups
17:16:51 <fungi> working groups listed there are created directly by an osf board directive, and are responsible to the board of directors
17:18:14 <spotz> And when it was originally formed the WG was run by board members. I restarted the group back up as it made sense to bring up diversity and inclusion topics and I was the only really active person from the original group still around
17:18:17 <fungi> the openstack tc and uc don't really report to the board, all three are actually created by the osf bylaws
17:19:52 <spotz> That make sense SWDevAngel?
17:19:54 <SWDevAngel> Hi Fungi, I just read your first link. It makes sense what you say about renaming and IF you rename this group, you should rename the others like "board" "foundation" "summit" and also, as you say: reserve it as a namespace prefix with Freenode staff to give us better control over future channels using the same prefix
17:21:29 <fungi> right now freenode has special records giving some of our contacts in opendev de facto control over any irc channel starting with #openstack or #opendev, so if we expect to have more than a few starting with #osf we should probably get something similar in place
17:22:01 <SWDevAngel> Agreed. Is there a motion to rename those other groups as well? Maybe all the names should change at once?
17:22:45 <spotz> We can definitely bring it up if it's something we wish to do
17:24:17 <fungi> i don't personally see it as urgent, since it's the openstack foundation, and i don't know how much confusion there has been up to this point about the diversity and inclusion working group's scope
17:26:30 <SWDevAngel> Agreed, doesn't seem THAT urgent, so I would say when they change the other names, change this one too.
17:27:13 <SWDevAngel> But if you want to lead by example, I also have no issue with the name change. I think all of us operate with a broader perspective in general, as we all work throughout different communities.
17:28:01 <SWDevAngel> I should say different projects and communities.
17:28:19 <spotz> Ok we'll leave it for now and address it in the future
17:28:52 <spotz> Which leaves us 30 minutes for OPen Discussion:)
17:29:00 <spotz> #topic Open Discussion
17:29:40 <spotz> Only thing I really have is we're getting some spam to the mentoring list but not outragous amounts. Unfortunately no real emails to the list
17:30:31 <SWDevAngel> I don't really have much going on. If I can be of any help for PTG let me know but as of now I wasn't planning on attending. (Definitely wasn't attending when it was live, but if you think I could be helpful, happy to attend whatever sessions you recommend. :)
17:31:48 <spotz> I only booked us that one block. I'll try to attend the First Contact SiG and then OSA and tripleo
17:34:06 <spotz> SWDevAngel: But please come to that one if you can and attend anything else you find interesting
17:35:10 <SWDevAngel> Which one exactly? the First Contact SiG?
17:35:51 <SWDevAngel> Or the Div WG one at 16:00 you mean?
17:36:38 <spotz> the DDiv WG one is us so definitely that one:) First Contact SiG not us but is a good group:)
17:38:20 <SWDevAngel> Okay, I will put that on my calendar. We don't have another meeting between now and then do we?
17:39:12 <fungi> next meeting would be 2020-06-01
17:39:17 <spotz> Not officially we could if needed
17:39:22 <fungi> (that's the first monday of june)
17:39:35 <spotz> Which is the first day of PTG
17:39:39 <fungi> yep
17:41:06 <SWDevAngel> So do we need any strategy meetings prior to that session? Or do we just show up and answer questions? Or Amy, are you leading it? Do you have a plan? (I supposed this was the nature of my question... do you need my help?)
17:41:41 <SWDevAngel> Or rather, would you LIKE my help! I didn't mean to put this all on you and Jeremy! ;)
17:42:16 <spotz> SWDevAngel: I suspect it will be our normal meeting with no one popping in. BUT if folks do pop in we'll answer any an all question about how we can help their projects and why they should join the gorup:)
17:43:21 <SWDevAngel> Okay. Here's my next stupid question.... "where" is this meeting happening? Do we need to register for the conference, etc., and is there a conference platform this is happening on? Is it a video meeting, or online only?
17:44:08 <spotz> #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg
17:44:24 * spotz goes to register:)
17:46:50 <fungi> heh, yep, please register ;)
17:47:16 <spotz> Done:)
17:47:28 <SWDevAngel> Okay, I just registered also.
17:47:49 <spotz> Ok anyone have anything else or would you all like 13 minutes back?
17:47:50 <fungi> the "where" is still being worked out, odds are there will be a default videoconferencing platform from some service provider made available by osf funds, and then the community has some optional tools they're working on which some teams might choose to use alongside or instead of that
17:48:23 <SWDevAngel> Okay. Now that we are registered I assume we will get a notification about that?
17:48:55 <spotz> I can always throw up a google meet or blue jeans room through Red Hat if needed
17:49:13 <spotz> But that doesn't make it easy for folks to find us:(
17:53:40 <SWDevAngel> Okay so just so I'm clear, There's no Div WG session in the Open Infra Summit right? This is the only one? (As part of PTG)?
17:56:04 <spotz> It's no seprate from the PTG but no it's got it's 3 tracks
17:56:13 <spotz> now separate
17:57:33 <SWDevAngel> YEah, was just reading the website. Okay, just making sure I know where to be when. :)
17:58:56 <spotz> Yeah these virtual ones I think are harder then in person ones
17:59:07 <fungi> well, also one of the upcoming ptgbot features is that groups should be able to provide an arbitrary url linking to "where" they're meeting, though the new features for that are still being polished and aren't carved in stone yet
17:59:42 <fungi> but should be easily findable from ptg.openstack.org once event draws closer
18:00:02 <spotz> Nice so I'll supply a room if we need one
18:00:25 <fungi> i expect it'll have a default one and then you can override it with something else as needed
18:00:57 <SWDevAngel> okay, sounds good
18:01:02 <SWDevAngel> it's in my calendar! :)
18:01:17 <spotz> Ok ending log
18:01:20 <spotz> #endmeeting