17:15:37 <spotz> #startmeeting diversity-wg
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17:15:38 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg'
17:15:45 <spotz> #topic Roll Call
17:16:00 <SWDevAngel> I didn’t have any agenda items other than to say that Treva had reached out to us during the KubeCon lunch to ask if she could join the working group. Amy do you have her contact information?
17:16:13 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda
17:16:42 <spotz> I have her phoone and twitter, not a new email
17:16:49 <spotz> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yogaptg-d%26i
17:16:53 <spotz> #toopoic PTG
17:16:59 <spotz> #topic PTG
17:18:05 <spotz> Just to fill SWDevAngel in.:)
17:19:46 <SWDevAngel> Okay let me ask Rain for it. She’s at Replicated now.
17:20:17 <SWDevAngel> Okay, Rain doesn’t have it. They DM on Twitter.
17:20:32 <spotz> Overall a good PTG we had 1 extra attendee the entire time Mary Camp from StarlingX. mnaser and rosmaita popped in
17:20:40 <SWDevAngel> Oh wait. Nope. Rain does have it. I’ll DM it to you. :)
17:21:03 <spotz> Ok, I suspect she might still be on the Foundaation list where meeting announcements are sent
17:21:55 <spotz> The Stance is now a locked wiki page that fungi can edit if needed or provide access and the word list is linked to and from it
17:22:19 <fungi> technically any of the wiki admins can edit it, there's just not many of us
17:22:32 <SWDevAngel> OK, that was my only action item of the day. I’ve DMD you her address. :)
17:22:58 <spotz> I suspect Jimmy and Wes?
17:23:24 <fungi> suspect them of what?
17:23:44 <spotz> Are wiki admins:)
17:24:28 <fungi> oh, i... don't think so but it's possible i've added them in the past... it's mostly community members not foundation staff
17:24:37 <fungi> i'll pull up the list in a moment
17:25:17 <spotz> OOh ok
17:25:39 <spotz> Opposite of what I thought
17:26:26 <fungi> the wiki site was originally set up by ryan lane while he was still at wmf, and migrated our older moinmoin based wiki's content into it
17:26:36 <fungi> but it was mainly managed by the docs team early on
17:27:48 <spotz> Ah ok, I love hearing the history behind things when I talk to you, cloudnull, etc:)
17:28:29 <spotz> But the gist is not everyone can edit the wiki so we won't see changes to the Stance being made
17:28:36 <fungi> sorry for the delay, i had to dig out my otp key for the 2fa
17:29:23 <spotz> The list of words I believe is editablle by anyone which can be good and bad. Maybe we should think abouot a quarterlly audit or set ourselves for notifications just to make sure it's noot radically changed
17:29:56 <spotz> That's the thing aboout 2FA finding the phone/app/device with the key
17:30:58 <fungi> currently active community members with wiki.openstack.org administrators membership include clarkb, corvus, dansmith, me, jbryce, jpmaxman, mordred, ttx
17:31:35 <fungi> spotz: yeah, you can set a watch for that page so the wiki will e-mail you any time it's edited
17:31:57 <spotz> fungi: Which should be rarely if ever by someone besides this group
17:32:00 <fungi> but also it's easy to look at the page history, and roll back any problem edits to a specific earlier revision
17:33:13 <spotz> Perfect
17:35:16 <spotz> Oh noot froom the PTG but the changes from Legal are back in regards to Inclusive Naming in the bylaws. Chairman is now Chair and any pronouns are not they/them/their. I think there's one other cahnge needed but unrelated to that, one of the CooC contacts was out oof date
17:37:08 <fungi> i think the coc contacts list was just stale in the document copy wendar was using for redlining/reference, the copy on the website was already corrected before then
17:38:14 <spotz> Yeah, I like the new CooC page a lot
17:39:06 <SWDevAngel> That was a good catch by Mohammed to realize that Lauren’s name was still listed. :)
17:39:33 <spotz> Yeah I totally missed it
17:39:53 <fungi> at least that wasn't the version that we'd been publishing
17:41:23 <SWDevAngel> I didn’t see that either and I thought I read the whole thing.
17:41:57 <spotz> That's why moore eyes the better on these things
17:42:46 <spotz> I think that's it for me on topics. I'd say maybe in 2022 we might want to think of doiong another survey but I don't think we need much tweeking on the questions from last time
17:51:01 <spotz> Ok as no one has said anything in a few going to close the log. Thank you both foor coming!
17:51:05 <spotz> #endmeeting