14:01:21 <spotz[m]> #startmeeting diversity_wg
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14:01:35 <spotz[m]> @chair fungi
14:01:37 <spotz[m]> #chair fungi
14:01:37 <opendevmeet> Current chairs: fungi spotz[m]
14:01:49 <spotz[m]> #topic Roll call
14:02:36 <fungi> ohai
14:02:47 <spotz[m]> Hey:)
14:03:03 <spotz[m]> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda
14:03:15 <spotz[m]> For anyone who needs the link to the agenda
14:03:44 <spotz[m]> I only put 2 items on today so unless we get some dropins I suspect this will be a short meeting
14:04:03 <spotz[m]> #topic Survey Response Progress
14:04:24 <spotz[m]> When last we peeked we had 6 responses I think.
14:05:46 <fungi> i wonder if we can do something to raise visibility of that among our communities
14:06:13 <fungi> promote it in the foundation newsletter? superuser blog post?
14:06:31 <spotz[m]> Ok I was wrong we had 5 and still have 5. 3 OpenSack, 1 Labs, and 1 Kata
14:07:05 <spotz[m]> Scratch that 4 - 2 are OpenStack I included the header line
14:07:51 <spotz[m]> So yeah we're doing really bad this time around. Have you been able to talk to any of the other Community Managers?
14:08:11 <spotz[m]> I think maybe also getting it in Superuser or one of the mailings?
14:08:27 <fungi> i did mention it, but will bring it up again
14:09:38 <spotz[m]> I haven't seen anything on mailing lists but to be honest OpenStack and StarlingX are the most active and most of StarlingX I have to get out of my spam folder
14:11:11 <fungi> hopefully we'll be moving the starlingx mailing lists to a new listserv in a couple of weeks, so that spam misidentification situation may improve
14:12:56 <spotz[m]> Good news because it's not consistent:(
14:13:40 <spotz[m]> Ok so if you hit up the other community managers I'll talk to Helena and Kristin to see if they can help. Sound like a plan?
14:14:15 <fungi> yep, on it
14:15:01 <spotz[m]> Ok anything else we can think on for this item?
14:15:40 <fungi> nothing comes to mind
14:16:23 <spotz[m]> #topic Leadership Shadowing
14:16:51 <spotz[m]> We talked about this in the Spring but at the time I think we were hoping for an in-person PTG
14:18:14 <spotz[m]> With the lack of diversity in the last/current OpenStack election I wanted to bring this forward again to see if we can't figure out a way to get some leadership exposure to new folks and especially diverse folks
14:19:52 <fungi> makes sense
14:20:12 <spotz[m]> Without the diversity survey admitedly we don't have as much insight into the other projects
14:21:16 <spotz[m]> I know some projects have a bug person which I think is a good way and back in the day I used to wrangle one of the 2 OSA meetings we had a week
14:21:18 <fungi> oh, that's right, i had talked to some folks about getting a more visible link for the diversity survey on the openinfra.dev site
14:21:30 * fungi makes a note to check up on the progress there
14:21:45 <spotz[m]> In RDO we always ask for a volunteer to run the next meeting so everyone has a chance to lead
14:24:38 <spotz[m]> :)
14:27:12 <spotz[m]> So I'm thinking maybe we start an etherpad with ideas for how folks can get some leadership experience and then bring it to the PTL/TC/SC/etc to holefully get either buyin to try?
14:27:24 <spotz[m]> s/holefully/hopefully/
14:29:19 <fungi> sure, that seems like a great idea
14:30:07 <fungi> i know some leadership bodies have struggled with the same sorts of efforts, but maybe they'll have some feedback on what hasn't worked, or things to try that we haven't thought of
14:30:35 <spotz[m]> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-leadership
14:33:41 <spotz[m]> Ok I put a goal, feel free to improve it:) and I put the 2 ideas that I had mentioned on it to start it
14:34:04 <fungi> cool, thanks!
14:37:01 <spotz[m]> Do we want to hack on this for a bit or do it async and maybe chat a bit in channel until the next meeting or the PTG which ever comes first
14:37:21 <fungi> sure, i think that should work
14:37:24 <spotz[m]> We could also maybe reserve some time at the PTG and try to invite folks
14:37:31 <fungi> definitely!
14:38:12 <spotz[m]> Ok let's end the log and we'll chat later:)
14:38:25 <fungi> thanks
14:38:32 <spotz[m]> #endmeeting diversity_wg