05:09:00 <rolandchan> #startmeeting Diversity Working Group
05:09:01 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 13 05:09:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rolandchan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:09:04 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_working_group'
05:09:15 <GB21> Well, eglute had asked me to continue the meeting
05:09:26 <rolandchan> great!
05:09:54 <rolandchan> lets have a rollcall
05:09:58 <rolandchan> Roland Chan, Aptira.
05:10:46 <GB21> Geetika Bata , OPW intern at OpenStack
05:10:54 <GB21> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.5
05:11:09 <rolandchan> Hi Geetika!
05:11:36 <ozstacker> Tristan, CEO at Aptira
05:11:56 <rolandchan> That's about all.
05:12:16 <rolandchan> so, GB21, were there specific items from the last meeting that we need to review?
05:13:44 <GB21> Well rolandchan, The actual goals are supposed to be set today at 5.00 pm utc
05:14:49 <rolandchan> Really? What meeting is that?
05:15:11 <rolandchan> this meeting is the 5am meeting, next weeks is the 5pm.
05:15:17 <GB21> the diversity meeting occurs twice on tthursdays
05:15:40 <rolandchan> AFAIK there is no meeting at 5pm UTC today.
05:15:44 <GB21> ohh
05:15:47 <GB21> I am srry
05:15:53 <GB21> I read it wrong
05:15:55 <rolandchan> hehe. no problem.
05:16:20 <rolandchan> I don't think we're going to agree on the targets today, we generally have very low attendance rates. Need to work on that.
05:16:47 <GB21> since 5 am utc was not suitable to everyone, so they asked me to coordinate
05:16:49 <GB21> and yes
05:16:57 <GB21> I think its just two of us
05:17:12 <GB21> rolandchan, does 1700 utc suits u
05:17:13 <GB21> ?
05:17:16 <rolandchan> and tristan, who's lurking..
05:17:31 <rolandchan> Sure does. I'm in Australia, so the alternative meeting is at 3am local time.
05:18:07 <GB21> That is not a really good time
05:18:14 <rolandchan> no, not really.
05:18:16 <rolandchan> :)
05:18:17 <rolandchan> I notice there's a very healthy amount of interesting in the gender related aspects, so after some discussion with Kavit, I'd like to propose that he and I focus on the geography culture aspects of the plan.
05:18:20 <GB21> :D
05:18:49 <GB21> Sure shot
05:18:59 <GB21> we should add this in the etherpad
05:19:21 <rolandchan> I'm not that good a typist, what I tend to do is type up the minutes of the discussion afterwards.
05:20:38 <GB21> I updated it
05:20:40 <GB21> :D
05:20:45 <rolandchan> thanks.
05:21:03 <ozstacker> sorry i've been on the phone... catching up.
05:21:04 <GB21> np
05:21:12 <GB21> its completely ok
05:21:13 <GB21> :D
05:21:24 <rolandchan> it looks like there's been some progress on extracting data.
05:22:06 <rolandchan> I would think that a data on location of foundation members should be available in summary form from the foundation.
05:22:28 <rolandchan> and the survey of the meetup groups should also provide good geo-distribution data.
05:23:24 <GB21> yes
05:23:40 <GB21> I think OpenStack India day held last saturday
05:23:52 <GB21> and Kavit as u sy would be able to provide it
05:24:37 <rolandchan> There's discussion on the mailing  list about extracting it from meetup.com programmatically, so there's not much more for us to do here.
05:24:59 <GB21> yes
05:25:04 <GB21> I see that
05:25:43 <GB21> rolandchan, How are u gonna work on the geography culture aspects
05:25:44 <GB21> ?
05:25:47 <GB21> any plans
05:25:57 <GB21> what exactly do u have in mind
05:26:16 <rolandchan> There's a couple of different areas:
05:27:25 <rolandchan> - trying to minimise fragmentation between the markets, by looking at regional events
05:28:39 <rolandchan> - finding ways to encourage non-US based people to be more active in the community. There are a lot of people in APAC working on OpenStack, but I think they are less active community-wise than people in the US
05:28:39 <GB21> well rolandchan https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.6
05:28:43 <GB21> see this
05:28:58 <GB21> this is the etherpad for the todays meeting
05:29:23 <rolandchan> yep.
05:30:09 <GB21> So, we should add whatever u are suggesting to the ether pad
05:30:12 <GB21> right
05:30:32 <rolandchan> yep I will. I just tend to do it at the end when summarising the meeting into minutes.
05:30:43 <GB21> sure
05:30:44 <GB21> :D
05:31:27 <rolandchan> We also have a few board members based in APAC now, so I think asking them to push for increased levels of engagement with the community generally, and the Diversity program will also be useful.
05:32:13 <GB21> That would be great
05:33:02 <rolandchan> I don't know that I have much to contribute to the discussion of targets in the general community, at least not from a geography perspective.
05:34:13 <rolandchan> I would be keen to see the % distribution of people in the whole community reflected in all levels: ATC, PTLs, TC, Board etc etc.
05:34:39 <rolandchan> Which is basically what I mean when I say "people should be more active".
05:35:04 <GB21> yeah
05:35:34 <GB21> well, at this hour, I think it is not exactly that active
05:35:55 <rolandchan> hehe
05:36:20 <GB21> :P
05:36:30 <GB21> well, any way
05:36:57 <GB21> I am from India
05:37:08 <GB21> and in my region I dont find much developers
05:37:48 <rolandchan> They're definitely there. We have some! Seems almost everyone is in Bangalore.
05:37:57 <GB21> yeah
05:38:18 <GB21> I am from Delhi area
05:38:44 <GB21> last time I attended the meetup here, I was told that I am the only one
05:38:44 <GB21> :P
05:38:57 <rolandchan> ah. yes. We don't see a lot of activity there either.
05:39:19 <GB21> Well, I have been tryingto promote a little
05:39:40 <GB21> talked out of some girls to satrt contributing here
05:39:52 <GB21> at least we could generate intersest
05:40:36 <rolandchan> yep. definitely.
05:40:59 <rolandchan> It's a shame Kavit is travelling. He's across all the detail of the Indian scene.
05:41:35 <GB21> No problem, we could get the updates later on
05:41:57 <rolandchan> OK. I don't think I have much more to add. Between Kavit, Tristan and I, we're trying to make sure that at least one of us makes the US timezone session.
05:42:39 <GB21> ohk
05:42:45 <GB21> That would be great
05:43:00 <rolandchan> happy to close the meeting?
05:43:09 <GB21> heheh
05:44:14 <rolandchan> OK Cool. Thanks Geetika, good to talk to you.
05:44:21 <rolandchan> I'll write up the minutes today.
05:44:40 <GB21> Likewise rolandchan :D
05:44:43 <GB21> sure
05:45:01 <rolandchan> #endmeeting