05:00:36 <rolandchan> #startmeeting Diversity_Working_Group_2 05:00:37 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jul 16 05:00:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rolandchan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:00:38 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 05:00:40 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_working_group_2' 05:00:54 <ozstacker> hello shane congrats on the BoD seat! 05:01:12 <shane-wang> hello 05:01:14 <shane-wang> thank you 05:01:30 <rolandchan> First up. Lets have a rollcall. Can people state their real names and locations/timezones? 05:01:38 <rolandchan> Roland Chan, AEST, Aptira. 05:01:39 <ozstacker> this is tristan btw - former board sitter :-) 05:01:54 <rolandchan> oh, and you're affiliation if you have one :) 05:02:03 <ozstacker> Tristan Goode - Sydney Australia UTC+10 05:02:13 <ozstacker> Tristan Goode - Sydney Australia UTC+10 Aptira 05:02:34 <FleetDC> James Fleet Washington DC EST 05:02:48 <shane-wang> Shane Wang - Shanghai China UTC+8 05:03:25 <rolandchan> OK. That looks like everyone. 05:04:16 <rolandchan> The purpose of this meeting is to ensure that we include an APAC friendly meeting slot to discuss the Diversity Working Group progress 05:04:40 <rolandchan> Does everyone have a link to the minutes of the previous meeting? 05:04:54 <rolandchan> and the agenda for this one? 05:05:02 * ozstacker looks 05:05:09 <rolandchan> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diversity#Agenda 05:05:10 <shane-wang> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.1? and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackDiversity.2? 05:05:28 <rolandchan> Yep. the first etherpad is the minutes from the last meeting 05:05:32 <ozstacker> ta 05:05:34 <rolandchan> the agenda is basically the same. 05:05:56 <rolandchan> I'm not taking notes in real time, I'm not that fast :) 05:06:15 <rolandchan> OK, so first item is discussion on the working group charter. 05:06:36 <ozstacker> ok 05:06:42 <FleetDC> ok 05:06:47 <shane-wang> ok 05:07:33 <rolandchan> the last meeting seems to have concluded that the top diversity focus areas are: gender, geograph and culture. And then religion, age, disability other areas of interest. 05:08:11 <ozstacker> Yes that looks right 05:08:20 <shane-wang> totally agree 05:08:47 <FleetDC> That was the hot topic 05:08:50 <rolandchan> I don't mind that being a priority list, I'm not sure we should be particularly limiting in the charter itself. 05:10:08 <rolandchan> the existing charter has a long list of ways people differ. 05:10:46 <rolandchan> perhaps it's a bit unwieldly, but in the absence of a counter-proposal that is inclusive but brief, I'm happy to accept the charter as written. 05:11:05 <ozstacker> Yes I think that's a great list, and would be happy to accept it as written. 05:12:03 <shane-wang> me too 05:12:15 <shane-wang> would be happy to accept it as written 05:12:37 <rolandchan> I don't think there's any call for votes at this stage. Shall we move on? 05:13:21 <shane-wang> yes 05:13:34 <FleetDC> yes 05:13:57 <rolandchan> OK. Second item was an update from Kavit on the Diversity Policy. Kavit is on leave, returning Monday. 05:14:11 <rolandchan> Unofortunately, I don't have an update to provide on his behalf. 05:14:23 <ozstacker> ok no worries. 05:14:46 <shane-wang> leave it to the next meeting:) 05:14:51 <rolandchan> Similarly the next item was on the Ambassador program, from Niki. 05:15:18 <rolandchan> so I think we'll have to move on from that as well. 05:15:53 <rolandchan> lastly, we had the summit demographic data 05:16:01 <ozstacker> We probably just need to engage the ambassadors there and make them aware of these meeting times. 05:16:04 <shane-wang> are we going to consider to change ambassador? 05:16:24 <ozstacker> I can alert the Ambassador list 05:16:25 <shane-wang> sorry, what is the Ambassador program? 05:16:45 <ozstacker> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Community/AmbassadorProgram 05:16:56 <shane-wang> @ozstacker, thank you 05:17:26 <rolandchan> There's a good geographical spread, so we should be able to get involvement in all the diversity meetings. 05:17:33 <ozstacker> yes 05:17:53 <ozstacker> I can ping the ambassador list 05:18:11 <rolandchan> ozstacker takes an action 05:18:12 <rolandchan> :) 05:19:28 <rolandchan> So, looking at the demographic data presented at the last meeting... 05:20:20 <rolandchan> The key points for me is that Euro and APAC attendances seem to site ~10% for out-of-region summits. 05:20:45 <rolandchan> and perhaps altanta wasn't a very popular destination ;) 05:21:49 <ozstacker> Yeah I didn't go to that one :-) 05:22:00 <shane-wang> I did go 05:22:13 <shane-wang> but it was a long trip from China 05:22:26 <rolandchan> Indeed. 05:22:32 <shane-wang> longer than west coast 05:23:37 <rolandchan> India, China, Japan seem to be strongly represented in out of region attendances. 05:24:00 <rolandchan> I think this is a good point, although having actual numbers rather than rankings would make me more certain. 05:25:22 <ozstacker> Yes. Data. 05:25:24 <rolandchan> any other comments on the summit data or the travel program information presented? 05:25:36 <ozstacker> Na 05:26:02 <rolandchan> OK. lastly the Women of OpenStack program data. 05:26:39 <rolandchan> there's a good upward trend there. 05:27:02 <shane-wang> :) 05:27:05 <rolandchan> noting that there was a lot of activity at Vancouver, it will be interesting to see what happens in Tokyo. 05:27:20 <ozstacker> Yes. It's been a well supported and publicised program. 05:28:12 <ozstacker> I guess our goal is to see other programs supported as well. 05:28:21 <rolandchan> I think the intern sponsorship program is important, in the sense that concrete actions are taken. 05:29:09 <rolandchan> I think action that directly affects people are something that a broader diversity program will have to do 05:30:03 <rolandchan> Any other business? I have one item. 05:30:19 <ozstacker> nothing from me 05:30:51 <shane-wang> no from me 05:30:57 <rolandchan> OK. 05:31:04 <ozstacker> Although I dont know why we dont have these meeting sin the meeting channels 05:31:16 <rolandchan> I don't know either. 05:31:35 <ozstacker> There's a bunch of folks lurking there and we could encorage participation just by being there? 05:32:00 <rolandchan> That's not my experience, but maybe. 05:32:03 <rolandchan> obviously attendance is a bit down on the previous meeting. 05:32:15 <ozstacker> Then for other general discussion, the openstack-community channel is quite idle. 05:32:54 <rolandchan> Other than pushing the diversity messages in the mailling list, what else can be done to encourage attendance from this side of the world. 05:33:38 <ozstacker> Make it a highlight topic at the upcoming summit. 05:33:49 <shane-wang> yes agree 05:33:55 <rolandchan> suggest to the ambassadors that the diversity program should become part of their message. 05:34:10 <ozstacker> I'm drafting the email to them right now. 05:34:23 <rolandchan> cool. 05:34:46 <rolandchan> anything else? 05:34:52 <ozstacker> nope 05:34:57 <shane-wang> diversity mtg should have more attendees 05:35:00 <shane-wang> no 05:35:38 <shane-wang> is this meeting log public? 05:35:39 <rolandchan> OK. 05:35:44 <FleetDC> nope 05:35:44 <rolandchan> yup 05:35:47 <ozstacker> yes 05:35:51 <shane-wang> ok 05:35:57 <rolandchan> it will be when I tell the bot to end the meeting. 05:36:11 <rolandchan> OK. Lets close then. 05:36:20 <rolandchan> Thanks everyone! 05:36:25 <rolandchan> #endmeeting