#openstack-meeting-alt log

14:01:20 <annegentle> #startmeeting DocTeam
14:01:21 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Feb 12 14:01:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is annegentle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:32 <EmilienM> o/
14:01:39 <annegentle> I think I use a different meeting name and that's bad because then eavesdrop has different folder names. Ah well.
14:01:53 <nickchase> I'm here. :)
14:01:57 <nickchase> good morning, all.
14:02:15 <annegentle> Agenda is here:
14:02:17 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting
14:02:18 <loquacities> i'm here too, visiting from the future
14:02:22 <annegentle> hey nickchase
14:02:26 <annegentle> loquacities: how's tomorrow?
14:02:35 <annegentle> #topic Action items from the last meeting
14:02:36 <loquacities> only started a minute and a half ago
14:02:39 <loquacities> so it's a bit early to tell
14:03:12 <annegentle> All we had was slong to update the howto with the new tools update
14:03:17 <annegentle> I think that was about test.py changing
14:03:27 <loquacities> that's correct
14:03:36 <loquacities> i'm not sure if that's done or not, though, i haven't gone looking
14:03:43 <annegentle> the one before that was annegentle to email Sam-I-Am for networking details on a slide for webinar
14:03:55 <annegentle> Uh, I don't think I did that, but I don't think the webinar is going to happen, so that's just fine
14:04:02 <annegentle> AJaeger to create a separate CLI Reference to get input from reviewers
14:04:08 <annegentle> That's done, woo!
14:04:19 <annegentle> lastly, annegentle to find out if Oxygen XML is interested in continuing to support OpenStack with donated licenses
14:04:19 <Sam-I-Am> booo
14:04:22 <annegentle> that's done as well
14:04:33 <loquacities> aww, no webinar :(
14:04:33 <nickchase> are they?
14:04:35 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: oh believe me I'm fine with no webinar there's enough going on :)
14:04:51 <annegentle> nickchase: yeah I sent an email to the ML - we got 10 more, one I've given away.
14:04:57 <annegentle> Probably I'll save another for slong
14:05:07 <annegentle> but other wise they're up for grabs
14:05:15 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: true
14:05:35 <loquacities> i'll mention that next week for apac
14:05:46 <annegentle> loquacities: yes please do
14:05:58 <annegentle> Ok next topic if that's all the action items to follow up on
14:06:02 <annegentle> #topic Doc tools update - 0.6 release of openstack-doc-tools
14:06:29 <annegentle> heh Looks like I'm behind already
14:06:42 <annegentle> 0.6 release fixed the python packaging
14:06:51 <annegentle> and there's an upcoming 0.7 it looks like
14:06:53 <annegentle> #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-doc-tools
14:07:30 <annegentle> Lots of great progress on translated documents. Much appreciation.
14:07:38 <annegentle> I'll check with Andreas on 0.7
14:07:57 <chandan_kumar> hello
14:07:58 <annegentle> Any doc tools questions?
14:08:02 <annegentle> hey chandan_kumar!
14:08:07 <AJaeger> HI
14:08:21 <Sam-I-Am> hello
14:08:57 <annegentle> Hi AJaeger :)
14:09:09 <annegentle> Do you need a 0.7 AJaeger? I see it on the release notes section
14:09:24 <AJaeger> annegentle, not yet - first need to merge all the changes in.
14:09:42 <AJaeger> And I would prefer if people that request features, also review them at least a bit...
14:09:53 <annegentle> AJaeger: yes good thinking
14:10:09 * AJaeger doesn't want to self-approve without any +1s at all.
14:10:20 <annegentle> AJaeger: agreed
14:10:33 <AJaeger> Still, doing it far too often for minor things - if somebody likes to review, I happily wait for you!
14:10:42 <annegentle> AJaeger: I'll look today, I was definitely offline a lot yesterday
14:11:09 <annegentle> I don't think David Cramer's here to ask him anything.
14:11:18 <annegentle> dianefleming: can you think of any report for the maven plugin?
14:11:19 <AJaeger> Thanks, annegentle. Shall I add you to features for review?
14:11:39 <annegentle> AJaeger: I think I'm subscribed to changes on the repo
14:11:50 <AJaeger> annegentle, great!
14:12:04 <annegentle> dianefleming has been working on automating the table of contents / sidebar nav for the API reference page
14:12:16 <annegentle> that's the only feature that's new for us for clouddocs-maven-plugin
14:12:29 <dianefleming> yes!
14:12:29 <AJaeger> There're two more that interest me:
14:12:37 <AJaeger> Linking to ask.openstack.org
14:12:39 <chandan_kumar> i will be reviewing all the doc-tool reviews
14:12:44 <annegentle> AJaeger: oh yes! Thank you.
14:12:46 <dianefleming> sorry, stepped away to get coffee
14:12:54 <annegentle> dianefleming: man I need to get coffee :)
14:13:03 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: it helps
14:13:08 <Sam-I-Am> slurrrrp
14:13:09 <annegentle> AJaeger: is there a review in place for the link to ask?
14:13:14 <dianefleming> i have another one coming to clouddocs-maven-plugin - adding PDF links to the API ref pages
14:13:21 <AJaeger> Better way of handling targetdir, this will allow to copy only needed files to the server and remove the delete jobs we have in a few cases
14:13:26 <annegentle> AJaeger: and how do we time that to prevent it changing stable/havana output?
14:13:31 <AJaeger> It's merged already
14:13:35 <annegentle> AJaeger: ok cool
14:14:04 <AJaeger> for ask.o.o: Will only change havana if we update the pom
14:14:05 <annegentle> AJaeger: oh nevermind my question about preventing changes, it's a version in the pom.xml. Forgive my brain pause.
14:14:09 <annegentle> AJaeger: :)
14:14:17 <AJaeger> The deltion: Only when we switch to new plugin for havana
14:14:23 <AJaeger> annegentle, exactly ;)
14:14:38 <annegentle> AJaeger: shall I ask David for a release this week or next?
14:15:18 <AJaeger> if dianefleming's change for the API site is in: Yeah, ready to release anytime IMHO.
14:15:41 <annegentle> AJaeger: ok sounds good
14:15:50 <annegentle> Ok anything else on tools?
14:15:55 <dianefleming> david cramer needs to approve my change on api-site
14:16:00 <dianefleming> i'll ping him
14:16:07 <annegentle> dianefleming: ok good
14:16:10 <annegentle> #topic Style Guide for config strings
14:16:33 <annegentle> dianefleming put together a style guide similiar to the config strings one
14:16:35 <annegentle> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70778/5
14:16:42 <annegentle> We can keep reviewing -- just wanted to mention it.
14:16:48 <annegentle> dianefleming: are you also adding to HACKING.rst?
14:16:57 <annegentle> dianefleming: I'll clarify the "admin only" comment
14:17:04 <dianefleming> yes, and someone asked that I move it to HACKING.rst in python-novaclient
14:17:13 <AJaeger> I'm still struggling where this belongs - whether it can be an enhancement to oslo.config or should go to the hacking repository
14:17:31 <AJaeger> dianefleming, don't move it to HACKING.rst in novaclient. It should apply everywhere!
14:17:38 <dianefleming> well, who is the audience? and where would they be most likely to look for this information?
14:17:47 <AJaeger> My suggestion would be hacking repository
14:17:56 <dianefleming> ok - wasn't aware of hacking repo -
14:17:58 <dianefleming> will put it there
14:17:59 <AJaeger> That contains our coding guidelines
14:18:03 <dianefleming> ok
14:18:17 <annegentle> dianefleming: yeah I wasn't sure either, so good to ask
14:18:17 <AJaeger> and if nobody likes it, we'll take it in openstack-doc-tools ;)
14:18:23 <annegentle> AJaeger: good!
14:18:27 <dianefleming> okay - sounds like a plan
14:18:31 <annegentle> Okie
14:18:32 <dianefleming> i'll take care of that this morning
14:18:36 <annegentle> dianefleming: sounds good
14:18:39 <annegentle> Ok moving along
14:18:48 <annegentle> #topic Next APAC docs meeting f2f in Brisbane
14:18:54 <annegentle> loquacities: that's cool!
14:19:20 <loquacities> haha
14:19:34 <loquacities> yep, so there's a fairly large concentration of openstack writers in brisbane
14:19:43 <loquacities> and we've been talking about having a get together for a little while
14:19:52 <loquacities> so it made some sense to tie it into the apac meeting
14:19:52 * Sam-I-Am moves to brisbane
14:19:55 <AJaeger> loquacities, make a group photo to share!
14:20:06 <loquacities> red hat have kindly offered to host it in their new meeting space
14:20:07 <annegentle> loquacities: that is super cool
14:20:09 <loquacities> for sure!
14:20:40 <annegentle> Okay go to loquacities for any more details :)
14:20:41 <loquacities> so we'll still be on irc for anyone who wants to join in
14:20:49 <Sam-I-Am> ah, cool. i was just going to ask that.
14:21:02 <annegentle> loquacities: ok I'll try to hang out on IRC then too
14:21:09 <loquacities> but all the brisbanites will be in a room together :)
14:21:12 <loquacities> that'd be awesome
14:21:16 <loquacities> thanks for the support
14:21:26 <annegentle> #topic Operations Guide edits from O'Reilly, master and feature/edits branches
14:21:27 <AJaeger> might be at some "crazy" hour ;)
14:21:39 <annegentle> So we have a new branch of the openstack/operations-guide repo
14:21:44 <annegentle> it's called feature/edits
14:21:49 <AJaeger> is it pushed to github?
14:21:54 <annegentle> We can move anything from master to feature/edits and vice versa
14:21:56 <annegentle> AJaeger: yep
14:22:33 <annegentle> O'Reilly sent an annotated PDF of edits for ch 1-7 last night, so we'll be updating master with those, and then I'll port to feature/edits
14:22:48 <AJaeger> Ah, found it!
14:22:51 <annegentle> Mostly it's for consistency - like getting the two architectures more parallel, tables, etc
14:23:05 <annegentle> AJaeger: yeah I need to find the instructions for porting back and forth so I'm ready to try some!
14:23:10 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: that was quick
14:23:21 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: i could use some instructions too
14:23:23 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: yeah they're minor really, it's not a technical edit but a consistency edit
14:23:37 <Sam-I-Am> me and git... little rocky.
14:23:38 <AJaeger> annegentle, it'S in the wiki - but I can sent you my scripts for backports as well...
14:23:41 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: AJaeger: tell me if this makes sense, but I think just one person should do the back and forth?
14:23:44 <gpocentek> annegentle: how does it work, O'reilly makes edits on feature/edits themselves, or should the doc team do the modifications?
14:23:45 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: heh me too
14:24:05 <annegentle> gpocentek: we wanted O'Reilly to make edits on feature/edits themselves, but he apologetically sent an annotated PDF :)
14:24:11 <gpocentek> ok :)
14:24:34 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: if one person handles the back-and-forth, can multiple hand the edits?
14:24:37 <AJaeger> Yeah, best if one person does it.
14:24:40 <annegentle> gpocentek: and I might go ahead with your abandoned edits since it seems like we still have time to get stuff over
14:24:41 <gpocentek> annegentle: does it makes sense to merge the beginning of a patch I made then?
14:24:46 <annegentle> AJaeger: ok
14:24:56 <annegentle> gpocentek: yeah, just what I was thinking! mind reader :)
14:25:00 <gpocentek> :)
14:25:46 <annegentle> I know the goal is to release in March so it's aggressive and I'd rather distract just me, though, rather than a lot of people... there's enough release doc work to go around.
14:26:04 <annegentle> gpocentek: so that was my thinking ^^ was avoiding distractions
14:26:21 * annegentle deflects distractions!
14:26:27 <annegentle> Any questions on that?
14:26:44 <annegentle> #topic Proposals for OpenStack Summit due 2/14, Design Summit tracks will be set in April
14:26:47 <gpocentek> annegentle: if you need help to apply O'Reilly suggestion I can find some time
14:26:54 <annegentle> gpocentek: thanks much.
14:27:08 <annegentle> gpocentek: I just might need to take you up on that :)
14:27:14 <annegentle> gpocentek: so far so good
14:27:29 <annegentle> So, the Summit proposals are due this Friday
14:27:37 <annegentle> last Summit there were 600 proposals
14:27:37 <gpocentek> annegentle: ok, feel free to ping me any time
14:27:56 <annegentle> These proposals are not for the Design Summit where we decided what to work on next release
14:28:08 <annegentle> Those I'll be asking for about a month ahead of the Summit.
14:28:15 <annegentle> The Summit is May 12-16 in Atlanta, GA
14:28:27 <annegentle> (Yes I realize the US Mother's Day is the Sunday before)
14:28:29 <nickchase> I feel like I'm juggling 600 proposals right now just from Mirantis.  (JK)
14:28:34 <annegentle> nickchase: heh I believe it
14:28:57 <annegentle> dianefleming and I are proposing one in the Community Building section about the Documentation community and how we operate
14:29:10 <annegentle> Seems like each Summit I get asked if I proposed one about docs so there it is!
14:29:17 <loquacities> \o/
14:29:18 <nickchase> :)
14:29:21 <annegentle> Many thanks to dianefleming for the outline. Really she does all the work around here.
14:29:22 <AJaeger> annegentle, dianefleming: Great!
14:29:27 <Sam-I-Am> do we just talk about how cool this team is?
14:29:32 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: heeh yes
14:29:36 <AJaeger> Sam-I-Am, a group hug ;)
14:29:37 <dianefleming> ha ha -
14:29:41 <dianefleming> yeah right!!!! :)
14:30:41 <annegentle> talks about our meetings, book sprints, what works well, what's difficult
14:30:42 <chandan_kumar> happy hug day to all the team mates :)
14:30:42 <annegentle> All of it!
14:31:21 <annegentle> chandan_kumar: :)
14:31:42 <annegentle> Ok that's all I've got on the Summit.
14:32:00 <annegentle> Well other than to strongly encourage docs team to apply for the Travel Program
14:32:20 <annegentle> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Travel_Support_Program
14:32:44 <dianefleming> @annegentle we should definitely get short bios and pictures of everyone on this team to include in our presentation!
14:32:52 <annegentle> dianefleming: that's a great idea!
14:33:51 <annegentle> dianefleming: let's see if it gets accepted :)
14:33:56 <annegentle> dianefleming: before doing a ton of work.
14:34:01 <dianefleming> yeah!
14:34:07 <AJaeger> WE should all vote for it once voting is up ;)
14:34:14 <annegentle> Although, this preso can be reused a bunch for Write the Docs and Open Help
14:34:20 <annegentle> AJaeger: :)
14:34:35 <annegentle> #topic API Docs blueprint updated
14:34:44 <annegentle> #link  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprint-os-api-docs
14:35:00 <annegentle> so remember how we were gonna move all the <project>-api docs into the <project>/doc location?
14:35:11 <annegentle> we've updated the blueprint to not do the move this release
14:35:29 <annegentle> dianefleming: any other details you want to be sure people know?
14:35:54 <dianefleming> nothing i can think of - just that it's a work in progress, with some of the work happening now and the completion happening in juno
14:36:22 <dianefleming> but the effort is serving to clean up the API docs in general - it's having a good effect overall (i think)
14:37:11 <annegentle> dianefleming: yeah sounds right. And YES on the cleanup.
14:37:25 <annegentle> dianefleming: lots of improvement this release. A LOT.
14:37:44 <annegentle> Okay any API docs Qs?
14:37:47 <dianefleming> thanks, and big thanks to AJaeger for all the gating work he did for APIs
14:37:55 <annegentle> yes
14:38:02 <annegentle> absolutely AJaeger!
14:38:08 <Sam-I-Am> yes... lots of work
14:38:15 <AJaeger> The gating work showed a lot of problems that dianefleming had to fix ;)
14:38:32 <AJaeger> So, we kept each other busy - thank!
14:38:33 <annegentle> always that tension between quality testers and the people making stuff!!
14:38:34 <dianefleming> ha ha - yes true - but i wouldn't have known about that without the gates
14:38:52 <AJaeger> and now I don't see it coming in again...
14:39:29 <annegentle> #topic Giveaways: Oxygen licenses are available, Travel Program for Summit, and Write the Docs in Budapest
14:39:42 <annegentle> Okay, just want to be sure people know about the stuff you can get!
14:39:49 <annegentle> I mentioned the Oxygen licenses earlier
14:39:54 <annegentle> and the Travel Program
14:40:08 <annegentle> So also wanted to say we have a free registration for Write the Docs.
14:40:14 <annegentle> #link http://conf.writethedocs.org/eu/2014/index.html
14:40:22 <annegentle> AJaeger: is that anywhere near you?
14:40:32 <loquacities> it looks like a great conf
14:40:33 <annegentle> I sat and watched nearly ALL the videos from the last Write the Docs
14:40:48 <annegentle> loquacities: yes! Rackspace is a sponsor
14:40:56 <loquacities> i saw :)
14:41:33 <AJaeger> annegentle, depends on your definition of near - for me its too far ;)
14:41:44 <annegentle> AJaeger: yeah I have those same definitions :)
14:41:49 <Sam-I-Am> close than we are
14:41:51 <Sam-I-Am> closer
14:41:59 <annegentle> Ideally we'll get some passes for the Portland one too
14:42:30 <annegentle> Jamie Hannaford, a PHP dev on the same team as Diane and I, will be in Hungary
14:43:14 <annegentle> Ok, want to leave time for install doc talk!
14:43:17 <annegentle> #topic Installation guide updates for Icehouse
14:43:23 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: sounds like you've had some good progress!
14:43:24 <Sam-I-Am> woooo
14:43:35 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, had some meetings with nick and phil
14:43:42 <Sam-I-Am> primarily trying to work out the networking stuff
14:44:04 <Sam-I-Am> in order to make networking fit best, some other parts of the doc could use some rearrangement
14:44:27 <Sam-I-Am> i finally have a working installation of icehouse on havana with nova-net
14:44:58 <nickchase> Yes, Sam-I-Am has doen a great job
14:45:07 <Sam-I-Am> so far the steps arent too different from havana. however, i would really like to find someone who can explain what really needs to be in the [keystone_authtoken] section of each service config file
14:45:09 <nickchase> We have a blueprint of the changes we want to make.
14:45:09 <AJaeger> applause for Sam-I-Am
14:45:15 <Sam-I-Am> seems to be magical undocumented goodness
14:45:36 <loquacities> nice work Sam-I-Am
14:45:45 <Sam-I-Am> also a few questions about the v3 identity api because keystone now claims v2 is deprecated, but v3 doesnt seem to work.
14:46:19 <Sam-I-Am> my next step is trying to get neutron/ml2 working on icehouse/ubuntu
14:46:20 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: I've been bugging dolphm about it
14:46:27 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: thx
14:46:37 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: there's no support for v3 in their client as I understand it
14:46:45 <Sam-I-Am> in addition to fixing networking, i'm trying to un-cruft the install guide
14:46:46 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: I think they can't deprecate v2 yet
14:46:59 <Sam-I-Am> the good news is i havent needed to edit a single .ini file yet :)
14:47:21 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: whoohoo
14:47:49 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: oh I had another thought about swift/keystone
14:48:08 <Sam-I-Am> the networking party also decided we'd get the install guide done first, then work on the cloud guide and book
14:48:10 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: I think that people will want that arch in, but it shouldn't need much more than testing for icehouse
14:48:17 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: so that hopefully isn't much
14:48:26 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: sounds good
14:48:32 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: so swift without any other components?
14:48:56 <AJaeger> nickchase, do you have a link handy for the blueprint?
14:49:11 <nickchase> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/InstallGuideChanges
14:49:20 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: swift and keystone only... thing is, you don't get a dashboard without horizon/nova I think
14:49:36 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: how many people do that?
14:49:40 <nickchase> I want to get the existing structure in there and then will be sending it over the to ML in case people have feedback before we start moving things.
14:49:42 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: right now we "add swift" with our install guide
14:49:49 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: lots of people, storage is that entry point
14:50:01 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: adding swift means that the dash works
14:50:35 <Sam-I-Am> annegentle: hmm, i'll have to see where we can fit a "lite" swift chapter
14:50:50 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: it's also fine to leave it how it is, as additive
14:50:57 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: just don't want it to get lost is all
14:51:23 <Sam-I-Am> we'll find a place for it... and an arch... somehow.
14:51:26 <annegentle> any questions about install, networking, storage, anything?
14:52:16 <Sam-I-Am> looks pretty quiet :P
14:53:16 * AJaeger just read the wiki page - I like where this is going!
14:53:16 <annegentle> #topic Docs core, docs team
14:53:29 <annegentle> I wanted to follow up on the email I sent to the list about docs core
14:53:33 <nickchase> Great, thanks AJaeger!
14:53:38 <Sam-I-Am> thanks a
14:54:15 <annegentle> wanted to emphasize that we don't have to have a super large core, and core is about reviews more than anything
14:54:17 * AJaeger looks forward to more reviewers ;)
14:54:26 <annegentle> AJaeger: yes :)
14:54:33 * loquacities has been putting more effort into reviews this week
14:54:38 <loquacities> i slacked off last month ;)
14:54:40 * Sam-I-Am tries to review more... but doesnt necessarily understand everything
14:54:42 <annegentle> I also realize I should trim out docs core for those who aren't really reviewers any more
14:54:53 <annegentle> loquacities: you've been doing great reviews!
14:55:00 <loquacities> aww, thanks :)
14:55:04 <loquacities> hopefully they're helpful
14:55:22 <loquacities> and dianefleming i've been meaning to say sorry for being so nitpicky!
14:55:27 <annegentle> I still don't really want to go to a ML vote -- I like how infra runs theirs with small growth rate, but that can change for sure!
14:55:32 <annegentle> And I do appreciate all the input...
14:55:38 <annegentle> and I probably will change my mind about votes eventually...
14:55:44 <Sam-I-Am> heh @ diane reviews
14:55:49 <AJaeger> loquacities, sure!
14:55:58 <dianefleming> nit-picky? ha! you're talking to the queen of the nit-pickers!
14:56:09 <loquacities> hehe, at least we're on the same page ;)
14:56:09 <annegentle> LOL
14:56:12 <loquacities> so to speak :P
14:56:28 <dianefleming> on the same page with the same red pencil!
14:56:33 <loquacities> \o/
14:56:42 <Sam-I-Am> 'drive-by-diane-ing' - when you have a few +1s and out of nowhere comes a -1 for a period or comma somewhere :P
14:56:42 <annegentle> hee hee hee so true
14:56:52 <loquacities> LOL
14:56:52 <nickchase> HA!
14:56:54 <AJaeger> I agree, we need active reviewers - and those that are in core and don't want to review anymore, should be asked to either step up or leave...
14:57:05 <dianefleming> ha ha ha - i'm a little slow to the game, and then i like to crash into things!
14:57:07 <annegentle> AJaeger: yeah
14:57:16 <Sam-I-Am> i always fear the -1
14:57:20 <AJaeger> Sam-I-Am, especially in a paragraph taht you didn't touch at all ;)
14:57:25 <Sam-I-Am> AJaeger: lol yeah
14:57:30 <loquacities> ohh, i'm good at those
14:57:44 <annegentle> also, I took from the 90-day list of reviewers, looking for longer-term knowledge of the docs state
14:57:49 <loquacities> "I know you didn't edit this bit, but i just noticed this crime against English grammar ..."
14:57:52 <Sam-I-Am> we lost our other drive-byer... nermina
14:58:03 <annegentle> so sad to lose nermina!
14:58:08 <Sam-I-Am> she still lurks
14:58:11 <loquacities> :'(
14:58:29 <nickchase> Believe me, nobody misses her more than I do.
14:58:36 <nickchase> We did hire a new writer
14:58:38 <annegentle> nickchase: hope you're hiring!
14:58:49 <loquacities> fresh blood!
14:58:52 <annegentle> nickchase: great, let us know if you want any help onboarding/training
14:58:53 <Sam-I-Am> nickchase: when is the hazing?
14:58:55 <nickchase> I'm shanghia -- I mean introducing her to docs tomorrow
14:58:57 <loquacities> lol
14:59:00 <nickchase> :)
14:59:09 <annegentle> heehee
14:59:10 <AJaeger> nickchase, great!
14:59:12 <annegentle> Okay onward!
14:59:13 <Sam-I-Am> "we shall -1 your patches for tiny things for a month"
14:59:19 <annegentle> #topic Open discussion
14:59:23 <annegentle> well for one minute :)
14:59:29 <loquacities> better make it quick ...
14:59:39 <annegentle> hee
14:59:42 <Sam-I-Am> still having a blast working with y'all
14:59:46 <loquacities> +1
14:59:52 <Sam-I-Am> keeps me sane
14:59:52 <annegentle> We are working towards developer.openstack.org, where SDKs will live
15:00:00 <annegentle> so stay tuned for more user-dev oriented work
15:00:15 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: awesome!
15:00:22 <annegentle> Sam-I-Am: your energy has been great!
15:00:32 <loquacities> yes, indeed :)
15:00:45 <nickchase> we just have to forbid him from working weekends. :)
15:00:47 <annegentle> ok better give up the meeting room, thanks all!
15:00:49 <annegentle> #endmeeting