03:01:10 <loquacities> #startmeeting docteam 03:01:10 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Mar 19 03:01:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:01:11 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 03:01:13 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' 03:01:22 <loquacities> hi everyone 03:01:25 <Sam-I-Am> hello 03:01:34 <brucer> Hi there 03:01:36 <_Alexandra_> 'ola 03:01:38 <loquacities> we don't seem to have slong, hopefully she'll join later :) 03:01:56 <loquacities> #item Action items from the last meeting 03:02:31 <loquacities> #topic Action items from the last meeting 03:02:37 <loquacities> forgot the right keyword :P 03:02:37 <slong-afk> ola 03:02:47 <loquacities> oh hi slong! 03:02:58 <loquacities> ok, there are a bunch of action items here, so let's go ... 03:03:14 <loquacities> nickchase talk with annegentle about a cross-project proposal for getting docs easier in 03:03:19 <loquacities> no idea what that's about 03:03:29 <loquacities> nickchase to talk with annegentle about getting the blueprint approved and how to use it 03:03:31 <loquacities> likewise 03:03:33 <Sam-I-Am> so... 03:03:36 <loquacities> anyone know anything about that? 03:03:40 <Sam-I-Am> i do 03:03:44 <loquacities> yay! 03:04:06 <Sam-I-Am> the first one is putting a proposal together for a summit talk on how to reduce the barrier to entry with docs 03:04:16 <loquacities> oh! that sounds good :) 03:04:23 <Sam-I-Am> seems even experienced people take a while to catch on to all of our craziness 03:04:45 <loquacities> heh, yep ;) 03:04:49 <Sam-I-Am> second... we needed to get the install guide update blueprint approved. which is done. 03:04:56 <loquacities> excellent! 03:04:58 <loquacities> shall we move on, then 03:05:01 <Sam-I-Am> yes 03:05:19 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am to update the work items in the blueprint 03:05:25 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am? 03:05:30 <loquacities> you're the man of the hour! 03:05:44 <Sam-I-Am> yep, i figure out how to add items there 03:05:50 <slong> Hi ddomingo :) 03:05:52 <Sam-I-Am> well, through keys in my commit messages 03:05:59 <ddomingo> hi slong 03:06:17 <ddomingo> and everyone 03:06:24 <loquacities> hi ddomingo :) 03:06:28 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am propose 21:00 UTC on 2014-03-19 for Google Hangout on mailing list 03:06:29 <brucer> hi ddomingo: 03:06:32 <loquacities> i think you did that? 03:06:36 <loquacities> did you get much response? 03:06:51 <Sam-I-Am> loquacities: i moved it to the 26th at 21:00 utc 03:07:00 <loquacities> ok, cool 03:07:03 <Sam-I-Am> due to lack of response to the first round of e-mails 03:07:09 <Sam-I-Am> you... should see it in your email 03:07:12 * slong looks at calendar 03:07:16 <loquacities> excellent, thanks :) 03:07:17 <brucer> 7am? 03:07:29 <loquacities> yeah, it's early 03:07:30 <Sam-I-Am> 7 am for apac, 10 pm for eu 03:07:34 <loquacities> i'll be able to make that 03:07:41 <slong> yup, am there 03:07:43 <Sam-I-Am> and right smack in the middle of my day here stateside :) 03:07:45 <loquacities> not sure about everyone else, though 03:08:03 <brucer> hour later would be good (ahem) 03:08:26 <Sam-I-Am> brucer: eu would drop off :/ 03:08:36 <brucer> OK! 03:08:38 <loquacities> yeah, i think it becomes a bit tricky 03:08:46 <brucer> (I just might arrive snoring) 03:08:51 <loquacities> propose talks at http://summit.openstack.org 03:08:53 <Sam-I-Am> we could do separate apac-us/eu-us meetings, but i think the point is to get all of us together at once 03:09:04 <loquacities> it sounds to me as though we have a few proposals in now? 03:09:10 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: +1 03:09:26 <slong> loquacities: is there a way to see the proposals? 03:09:38 <loquacities> on the website, i think? 03:10:17 <slong> loquacities: way too easy, will go scout. 03:10:31 <loquacities> ok 03:10:56 <loquacities> ok, on to action items from our last meeting: 03:10:57 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am to add the image elements he is using to a wiki page, as the beginnings of an image library 03:11:12 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: again! 03:11:23 <Sam-I-Am> i... did not do that. 03:11:30 <Sam-I-Am> had enough trouble making the images :/ 03:11:33 <loquacities> :( 03:11:49 <loquacities> heh, ok, let's add it to this meeting then so it doesn't get forgotten 03:11:52 <Sam-I-Am> i think i sent a sample image to the list 03:12:08 <loquacities> #action Sam-I-Am to add the image elements he is using to a wiki page, as the beginnings of an image library 03:12:13 <loquacities> i don't remember seeing that :( 03:12:15 <Sam-I-Am> i have a feeling the image library will wait until after the install guide... too much going on :/ 03:12:21 <loquacities> yeah, that's cool 03:12:26 <loquacities> i don't mind rolling it over for a while 03:12:36 <loquacities> loquacities and slong to organise an APAC f2f for 9 April at Red Hat 03:12:45 <loquacities> so, slong, i think i stuffed up on dates 03:12:52 <loquacities> the 9th isn't an APAC week 03:12:57 <Sam-I-Am> loquacities: 80872 has the proposed images 03:13:18 <loquacities> so it should be the 16th, or the 2nd 03:13:28 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: thanks! i'll take a look :) 03:13:51 <loquacities> the 16th is quite close to easter 03:14:30 <slong> Hmm 03:14:50 <slong> Am fine with 16th 03:15:01 <loquacities> everyone else ok with the 16th? 03:15:24 <brucer> I wont be here 16th 03:15:25 <ddomingo> +1 to the 16th 03:15:29 <dnavale> sounds good to me.. 03:15:34 <brucer> but its OK if it suits majority. 03:15:46 <_Alexandra_> I'm good for that :) 03:16:06 <brucer> Sam-I-Am: noob Q: what does 80872 has the proposed images refer to? 03:16:13 <RobinJoe> Hello, I'm Joe - new tech writer: I can make the meeting for April 16 03:16:29 <loquacities> ok, i'm going to call that a quorum 03:16:33 <slong> RobinJoe, you're in Brisbane? 03:16:45 <Sam-I-Am> brucer: updating the architecture chapter of the install guide... hopefully standardizing on diagram formats 03:16:57 <loquacities> slong: yep, he's one of mine :) 03:16:57 <RobinJoe> Yes, Bne based : ) 03:17:11 <slong> loquacities: so three from your team to attend? 03:17:17 <loquacities> slong: that's right 03:17:18 <slong> Just have to count the numbers for pizza :) 03:17:23 <loquacities> can you make the pizza happen? 03:17:27 <slong> yep :) 03:17:30 <loquacities> yay! 03:17:33 <loquacities> ok, finally ... 03:17:42 <Sam-I-Am> guess i'm going to show up too 03:17:42 <loquacities> loquacities to chase annegentle about core team changes 03:17:46 <loquacities> which has actually been done 03:18:01 <loquacities> so congrats to Sam-I-Am and slong 03:18:07 <loquacities> who are now core 03:18:08 <Sam-I-Am> thx 03:18:11 <loquacities> and me :) 03:18:12 <Sam-I-Am> +2, i guess 03:18:20 <slong> nice 03:18:26 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: you'll be in brisbane? 03:18:35 <slong> or eating virtual pizza? 03:18:48 <brucer> congrats all 03:19:01 <loquacities> thanks brucer 03:19:16 <Sam-I-Am> loquacities: i'll fly there for free pizza :) 03:19:22 <loquacities> LOL 03:19:28 <loquacities> that's a long way to go for pizza ;) 03:19:28 <sld> lol 03:19:33 <Sam-I-Am> details. 03:19:35 <ddomingo> the pizza here is THAT good 03:19:53 <martinlopes> lol 03:19:54 <loquacities> ok, we're done with action items 03:19:59 <loquacities> #topic Operations Guide schedule with O'Reilly 03:20:26 <Sam-I-Am> sounds like a round of edits now 03:20:48 <loquacities> yeah, it should be close, i think 03:21:06 <loquacities> #topic Design Summit proposal system now open, doc slots Tues-Wed. 03:21:16 <loquacities> so i guess if you want to submit something, now is the time 03:21:32 <sld> as in...for atlanta? 03:21:52 <Sam-I-Am> yes 03:21:55 <loquacities> yeah, for the design summit 03:21:56 <sld> ah 03:22:36 <loquacities> #topic Installation guide updates for Icehouse 03:23:11 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: did you want to give an update? 03:23:25 <sld> I've done some testing for the install guide and a lot of it is solid... thinking of waiting for final release of packages for further testing though. 03:23:32 <Sam-I-Am> sure 03:23:51 <Sam-I-Am> i flattened the neutron sections 03:23:56 <Sam-I-Am> much more manageable now 03:24:03 <loquacities> nice! 03:24:07 <slong> congrats on that one, Sam-I-Am 03:24:18 <loquacities> that must have been a lot of work :) 03:24:26 <Sam-I-Am> now i'm working on updating the architecture chapter to explain exactly what we expect people to use... and what services run where. 03:24:31 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, about 4 hours per section 03:24:36 <loquacities> ouch >< 03:24:46 <Sam-I-Am> plenty o cruft 03:25:03 <sld> Sam-I-Am: right on... I've seen a lot of different configurations and services split all over... funny what people try on their own. ;-) 03:25:07 <Sam-I-Am> apparently there's an issue with svg-png conversion in maven which is messing my diagrams up 03:25:21 <Sam-I-Am> bug filed, awaiting a response 03:25:30 <loquacities> hem, hopefully we can work around it 03:25:33 <loquacities> hrm* 03:25:40 <loquacities> stupid autocollect :P 03:25:52 <_Alexandra_> Hurrrrrr 03:25:56 <Sam-I-Am> meanwhile, i'm starting work on the basic OS config section... more details about how to set up network interfaces, hosts files, etc. 03:26:27 <Sam-I-Am> and still trying to test icehouse. milestone 3 on ubuntu works except security groups. packages on rhel are either not -3 or broken. 03:26:45 <Sam-I-Am> so... i still havent been able to build a working rhel box with icehouse and neutron/ml2 03:26:52 <sld> I have had luck with CentOS, but haven't tested RHEL. 03:27:07 <Sam-I-Am> this is actually scientific 03:27:13 <Sam-I-Am> but... same vintage 03:27:18 <sld> tre 03:27:19 <sld> true 03:27:32 <Sam-I-Am> did you get rdo -3 packages working? 03:27:45 <sld> didn't know 3 was out already.... I tested with 2. 03:27:50 <sld> I can try 3 either today or tomorrow. 03:27:54 <slong> Sam-I-Am: was going to try 3 soon 03:27:57 <Sam-I-Am> i couldnt get neutron to work with 2 03:28:03 <Sam-I-Am> mucho database errors 03:28:10 <slong> Sam-I-Am: same here with rdo 2 03:28:13 <Sam-I-Am> more testers the merrier :) 03:28:47 <Sam-I-Am> things seem to change a bit between the milestones, so i've uploaded a few new patches to the guide for -3 03:29:17 <Sam-I-Am> like configuring mysql to default to utf-8 03:29:22 <Sam-I-Am> thats a new one 03:29:49 <Sam-I-Am> that's all from me 03:29:55 <Sam-I-Am> trying to make some progress 03:30:05 <loquacities> excelelnt 03:30:09 <loquacities> thanks Sam-I-Am :) 03:30:25 <loquacities> #topic Google Hangout 03:30:33 <loquacities> i think something on that has gone to the mailing list? 03:31:24 <Sam-I-Am> it should have 03:31:29 <loquacities> cool 03:31:32 <Sam-I-Am> there's a place in the wiki to add topics 03:31:33 <loquacities> final topic: 03:31:38 <loquacities> #topic Open discussion 03:31:51 <loquacities> so we'll run with an f2f on 16 april 03:32:04 <loquacities> other than that, does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 03:32:36 <slong> nope 03:32:41 <loquacities> yay! 03:32:56 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: anything else? 03:33:00 <Sam-I-Am> lol, nope 03:33:14 <loquacities> excellent, thanks for coming everyone :) 03:33:18 <slong> thanks 03:33:21 <loquacities> #endmeeting