03:01:10 #startmeeting docteam 03:01:10 Meeting started Wed Mar 19 03:01:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:01:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 03:01:13 The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' 03:01:22 hi everyone 03:01:25 hello 03:01:34 Hi there 03:01:36 <_Alexandra_> 'ola 03:01:38 we don't seem to have slong, hopefully she'll join later :) 03:01:56 #item Action items from the last meeting 03:02:31 #topic Action items from the last meeting 03:02:37 forgot the right keyword :P 03:02:37 ola 03:02:47 oh hi slong! 03:02:58 ok, there are a bunch of action items here, so let's go ... 03:03:14 nickchase talk with annegentle about a cross-project proposal for getting docs easier in 03:03:19 no idea what that's about 03:03:29 nickchase to talk with annegentle about getting the blueprint approved and how to use it 03:03:31 likewise 03:03:33 so... 03:03:36 anyone know anything about that? 03:03:40 i do 03:03:44 yay! 03:04:06 the first one is putting a proposal together for a summit talk on how to reduce the barrier to entry with docs 03:04:16 oh! that sounds good :) 03:04:23 seems even experienced people take a while to catch on to all of our craziness 03:04:45 heh, yep ;) 03:04:49 second... we needed to get the install guide update blueprint approved. which is done. 03:04:56 excellent! 03:04:58 shall we move on, then 03:05:01 yes 03:05:19 Sam-I-Am to update the work items in the blueprint 03:05:25 Sam-I-Am? 03:05:30 you're the man of the hour! 03:05:44 yep, i figure out how to add items there 03:05:50 Hi ddomingo :) 03:05:52 well, through keys in my commit messages 03:05:59 hi slong 03:06:17 and everyone 03:06:24 hi ddomingo :) 03:06:28 Sam-I-Am propose 21:00 UTC on 2014-03-19 for Google Hangout on mailing list 03:06:29 hi ddomingo: 03:06:32 i think you did that? 03:06:36 did you get much response? 03:06:51 loquacities: i moved it to the 26th at 21:00 utc 03:07:00 ok, cool 03:07:03 due to lack of response to the first round of e-mails 03:07:09 you... should see it in your email 03:07:12 * slong looks at calendar 03:07:16 excellent, thanks :) 03:07:17 7am? 03:07:29 yeah, it's early 03:07:30 7 am for apac, 10 pm for eu 03:07:34 i'll be able to make that 03:07:41 yup, am there 03:07:43 and right smack in the middle of my day here stateside :) 03:07:45 not sure about everyone else, though 03:08:03 hour later would be good (ahem) 03:08:26 brucer: eu would drop off :/ 03:08:36 OK! 03:08:38 yeah, i think it becomes a bit tricky 03:08:46 (I just might arrive snoring) 03:08:51 propose talks at http://summit.openstack.org 03:08:53 we could do separate apac-us/eu-us meetings, but i think the point is to get all of us together at once 03:09:04 it sounds to me as though we have a few proposals in now? 03:09:10 Sam-I-Am: +1 03:09:26 loquacities: is there a way to see the proposals? 03:09:38 on the website, i think? 03:10:17 loquacities: way too easy, will go scout. 03:10:31 ok 03:10:56 ok, on to action items from our last meeting: 03:10:57 Sam-I-Am to add the image elements he is using to a wiki page, as the beginnings of an image library 03:11:12 Sam-I-Am: again! 03:11:23 i... did not do that. 03:11:30 had enough trouble making the images :/ 03:11:33 :( 03:11:49 heh, ok, let's add it to this meeting then so it doesn't get forgotten 03:11:52 i think i sent a sample image to the list 03:12:08 #action Sam-I-Am to add the image elements he is using to a wiki page, as the beginnings of an image library 03:12:13 i don't remember seeing that :( 03:12:15 i have a feeling the image library will wait until after the install guide... too much going on :/ 03:12:21 yeah, that's cool 03:12:26 i don't mind rolling it over for a while 03:12:36 loquacities and slong to organise an APAC f2f for 9 April at Red Hat 03:12:45 so, slong, i think i stuffed up on dates 03:12:52 the 9th isn't an APAC week 03:12:57 loquacities: 80872 has the proposed images 03:13:18 so it should be the 16th, or the 2nd 03:13:28 Sam-I-Am: thanks! i'll take a look :) 03:13:51 the 16th is quite close to easter 03:14:30 Hmm 03:14:50 Am fine with 16th 03:15:01 everyone else ok with the 16th? 03:15:24 I wont be here 16th 03:15:25 +1 to the 16th 03:15:29 sounds good to me.. 03:15:34 but its OK if it suits majority. 03:15:46 <_Alexandra_> I'm good for that :) 03:16:06 Sam-I-Am: noob Q: what does 80872 has the proposed images refer to? 03:16:13 Hello, I'm Joe - new tech writer: I can make the meeting for April 16 03:16:29 ok, i'm going to call that a quorum 03:16:33 RobinJoe, you're in Brisbane? 03:16:45 brucer: updating the architecture chapter of the install guide... hopefully standardizing on diagram formats 03:16:57 slong: yep, he's one of mine :) 03:16:57 Yes, Bne based : ) 03:17:11 loquacities: so three from your team to attend? 03:17:17 slong: that's right 03:17:18 Just have to count the numbers for pizza :) 03:17:23 can you make the pizza happen? 03:17:27 yep :) 03:17:30 yay! 03:17:33 ok, finally ... 03:17:42 guess i'm going to show up too 03:17:42 loquacities to chase annegentle about core team changes 03:17:46 which has actually been done 03:18:01 so congrats to Sam-I-Am and slong 03:18:07 who are now core 03:18:08 thx 03:18:11 and me :) 03:18:12 +2, i guess 03:18:20 nice 03:18:26 Sam-I-Am: you'll be in brisbane? 03:18:35 or eating virtual pizza? 03:18:48 congrats all 03:19:01 thanks brucer 03:19:16 loquacities: i'll fly there for free pizza :) 03:19:22 LOL 03:19:28 that's a long way to go for pizza ;) 03:19:28 lol 03:19:33 details. 03:19:35 the pizza here is THAT good 03:19:53 lol 03:19:54 ok, we're done with action items 03:19:59 #topic Operations Guide schedule with O'Reilly 03:20:26 sounds like a round of edits now 03:20:48 yeah, it should be close, i think 03:21:06 #topic Design Summit proposal system now open, doc slots Tues-Wed. 03:21:16 so i guess if you want to submit something, now is the time 03:21:32 as in...for atlanta? 03:21:52 yes 03:21:55 yeah, for the design summit 03:21:56 ah 03:22:36 #topic Installation guide updates for Icehouse 03:23:11 Sam-I-Am: did you want to give an update? 03:23:25 I've done some testing for the install guide and a lot of it is solid... thinking of waiting for final release of packages for further testing though. 03:23:32 sure 03:23:51 i flattened the neutron sections 03:23:56 much more manageable now 03:24:03 nice! 03:24:07 congrats on that one, Sam-I-Am 03:24:18 that must have been a lot of work :) 03:24:26 now i'm working on updating the architecture chapter to explain exactly what we expect people to use... and what services run where. 03:24:31 yeah, about 4 hours per section 03:24:36 ouch >< 03:24:46 plenty o cruft 03:25:03 Sam-I-Am: right on... I've seen a lot of different configurations and services split all over... funny what people try on their own. ;-) 03:25:07 apparently there's an issue with svg-png conversion in maven which is messing my diagrams up 03:25:21 bug filed, awaiting a response 03:25:30 hem, hopefully we can work around it 03:25:33 hrm* 03:25:40 stupid autocollect :P 03:25:52 <_Alexandra_> Hurrrrrr 03:25:56 meanwhile, i'm starting work on the basic OS config section... more details about how to set up network interfaces, hosts files, etc. 03:26:27 and still trying to test icehouse. milestone 3 on ubuntu works except security groups. packages on rhel are either not -3 or broken. 03:26:45 so... i still havent been able to build a working rhel box with icehouse and neutron/ml2 03:26:52 I have had luck with CentOS, but haven't tested RHEL. 03:27:07 this is actually scientific 03:27:13 but... same vintage 03:27:18 tre 03:27:19 true 03:27:32 did you get rdo -3 packages working? 03:27:45 didn't know 3 was out already.... I tested with 2. 03:27:50 I can try 3 either today or tomorrow. 03:27:54 Sam-I-Am: was going to try 3 soon 03:27:57 i couldnt get neutron to work with 2 03:28:03 mucho database errors 03:28:10 Sam-I-Am: same here with rdo 2 03:28:13 more testers the merrier :) 03:28:47 things seem to change a bit between the milestones, so i've uploaded a few new patches to the guide for -3 03:29:17 like configuring mysql to default to utf-8 03:29:22 thats a new one 03:29:49 that's all from me 03:29:55 trying to make some progress 03:30:05 excelelnt 03:30:09 thanks Sam-I-Am :) 03:30:25 #topic Google Hangout 03:30:33 i think something on that has gone to the mailing list? 03:31:24 it should have 03:31:29 cool 03:31:32 there's a place in the wiki to add topics 03:31:33 final topic: 03:31:38 #topic Open discussion 03:31:51 so we'll run with an f2f on 16 april 03:32:04 other than that, does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 03:32:36 nope 03:32:41 yay! 03:32:56 Sam-I-Am: anything else? 03:33:00 lol, nope 03:33:14 excellent, thanks for coming everyone :) 03:33:18 thanks 03:33:21 #endmeeting