01:00:31 <loquacities> #startmeeting docteam 01:00:32 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Apr 29 01:00:31 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:33 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 01:00:35 <loquacities> roll call? 01:00:35 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' 01:00:45 <adahms> Here 01:00:47 <loquacities> hi slong! long time no chat :) 01:00:52 <slong> hey there:) 01:01:05 <bmoss> g'day y'all 01:01:06 <dnavale> hi there 01:01:07 <loquacities> hi adahms 01:01:11 <adahms> Hey, Brian! 01:01:16 <loquacities> hi :) 01:01:19 <suyog> hi all! 01:01:33 <loquacities> ok, let's kick off shall we? 01:01:38 <loquacities> #topic Action items from the last meeting 01:01:52 <loquacities> asettle to investigate first week of june for another APAC openstack docs f2f 01:02:01 <loquacities> asettle: you here? 01:02:07 <asettle> loquacities, sorry, internet dropping out 01:02:08 <asettle> I am! 01:02:13 <loquacities> yay! 01:02:15 <asettle> I am investigating, thinking that time frame suits all :) 01:02:23 <loquacities> we have an agenda item for that coming up, so let's circle back 01:02:28 <asettle> I was going to suggest somewhere closer too the RH office 01:02:30 <asettle> Okay, thanks :) 01:02:36 <loquacities> Lana to report back on i18n RST issues 01:02:59 <loquacities> i went to the meeting, and the main issue ended up being that translators weren't familiar with RST, so the conversion was tricky 01:03:04 <loquacities> but we're getting somewhere with that now 01:03:28 <loquacities> in the meantime, feel free to hang out in #openstack-translation to help out 01:03:56 <loquacities> also, i learned a valuable lesson about including translators in plans like that 01:04:08 <loquacities> Lana to change meeting schedule to alternating weeks 01:04:16 <loquacities> this has now been done 01:04:25 <loquacities> so thanks for the support there, everyone 01:04:34 <loquacities> any questions on the action items? 01:04:53 <JRobinson__> loquacities, sorry arrived late. Items seem in order 01:05:01 <loquacities> hi JRobinson__ :) 01:05:01 <loquacities> np 01:05:05 <loquacities> ok, moving on 01:05:10 <loquacities> #topic Kilo tasks 01:05:21 <loquacities> #info RST publishing is done 01:05:48 <loquacities> #info The rest is underway, should be late this week/early next week 01:05:58 <loquacities> has everyone had a chance to look at the new RST docs? 01:06:03 <loquacities> they're very shiny :) 01:06:10 <bmoss> +1 01:06:13 <asettle> What's the issue, exactly? 01:06:14 <asettle> The spaces? 01:06:47 <asettle> What's the next set of books set to be changed to RST? 01:07:09 <loquacities> asettle: still working on that 01:07:13 <loquacities> we're just getting through kilo first 01:07:29 <loquacities> we'll work out the next book to be converted as part of liberty planning 01:07:47 <asettle> loquacities, okay thanks 01:07:57 <loquacities> #topic Docs specs in review 01:08:07 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z 01:08:15 <loquacities> that's a link to the current list of specs 01:08:23 <loquacities> the main ones that need some attention are: 01:08:29 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/174647 (Work in progress user guides) 01:08:29 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178427/ (HA Guide) 01:08:29 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177934/ (API work) 01:09:11 <loquacities> there's also a bunch of training guide specs 01:09:21 <loquacities> i'm in contact with sean on that 01:09:35 <loquacities> any questions on specs? 01:09:50 <slong> Will Diane still be working at all on API stuff? 01:09:58 <slong> Just curious. 01:09:59 <loquacities> i believe she is 01:10:03 <slong> Cool. 01:10:11 <loquacities> anne is also continuing work on api docs 01:10:25 <loquacities> so even though she's not PTL, she'll still be around and working on those things 01:10:34 <slong> Anne put in that note about whether docs should continue to own API docs. 01:10:36 <slong> Wondered why. 01:10:46 <loquacities> it's a discussion anne and i have had a bit recently 01:11:15 <loquacities> i have no desire to look after API docs, and anne is happy to continue doing it, so it was a natural progression to ask if they should be run by the same person 01:11:37 <loquacities> i think it's worth asking the larger community how they feel 01:11:42 <asettle> Convenient, really 01:11:46 <slong> k, understood, ta 01:11:47 <loquacities> asettle: indeed :) 01:11:52 <loquacities> np 01:11:58 <loquacities> ok, moving on 01:12:03 <loquacities> #topic Specialty teams 01:12:14 <loquacities> #info HA Guide - Please look at the new spec 01:12:22 <loquacities> #info Training Guides - Preparing to publish for Kilo 01:12:29 <loquacities> #info Install Guides - CentOS/RHEL is on schedule, Ubuntu has rabbitmq issues that are being worked on, SUSE is underway and should be done by early next week 01:12:36 <loquacities> #info User Guides - Please look at the new spec 01:12:51 <loquacities> #info Security Guide (i don't have an updated status) 01:12:59 <loquacities> #info API docs - Please look at the new spec 01:13:06 <loquacities> #info Networking Guide - Test & review 01:13:17 <loquacities> any questions or comments on speciality teams? 01:13:35 <loquacities> oh, now is probably a good time to mention that the user guide team will need a new lead, as well 01:13:51 <JRobinson__> Just a comment on the user guide team 01:13:52 <asettle> Which, we unanimously decided was darrenc :) 01:14:03 <loquacities> asettle: i'm not sure darrenc agreed :P 01:14:06 <loquacities> JRobinson__: go ahead? 01:14:31 <JRobinson__> I'm okay to start heading that up as we discussed, 01:15:04 <JRobinson__> I'll need a managment or OpenStack experienced person to assist if possible. 01:15:04 <darrenc> no I haven't agreed to that :) 01:15:13 <JRobinson__> ^management 01:16:11 <loquacities> JRobinson__: that's great news, thank you :) 01:16:13 <loquacities> we can talk more about that on the meeting on friday, anyway 01:16:25 <JRobinson__> okay, sounds good 01:16:29 <loquacities> #topic Doc tools update 01:16:39 <loquacities> #info use 2.1.4 clouddocs-maven-plugin for Kilo 01:16:46 <loquacities> that's more an FYI than anything else 01:18:08 <asettle> Thanks JRobinson__ :) 01:18:10 <loquacities> #topic Vancouver 01:18:13 <loquacities> #info Design summit sessions should be up by the end of this week 01:18:13 <asettle> Sorry, bit late. 01:18:14 <loquacities> any questions on the design summit? 01:18:58 <loquacities> np 01:19:05 <asettle> Ah, nothing. I'm hoping to be able to be a part of the discussion on Swift docs 01:19:14 <loquacities> cool 01:19:23 <loquacities> #topic APAC Meetups 01:19:35 <loquacities> #info Planning for an APAC OpenStack meet up in May 01:19:37 <loquacities> asettle: ? 01:19:56 <asettle> o/ yes, it is I 01:19:57 <asettle> So 01:20:03 <asettle> Thinking something closer to the RH office 01:20:16 <asettle> But I can't think of much. At the moment, it is looking like 1st week of June 01:20:26 <asettle> Plan is to discuss summit - what's happening, informing our community 01:20:32 <loquacities> so, next week? 01:20:36 <asettle> Maybe we can even potentially think about doing a lunch and learn 01:20:42 <asettle> ... loquacities next week is the first week of May 01:20:43 <asettle> it's April 01:20:51 <loquacities> that requires a venue 01:20:53 <loquacities> oh yeah, sorry 01:20:55 <asettle> I'm thinking after June 01:20:57 <asettle> after summit* 01:20:58 <asettle> Ugh 01:20:59 <loquacities> a month ahead of myself :P 01:21:00 <asettle> No typey 01:21:02 <asettle> HAHA 01:21:06 <asettle> No worries 01:21:14 <asettle> Yes, a venue. I was wondering if we could talk to adahms about that. 01:21:17 <asettle> A potential for summit debrief 01:21:22 <loquacities> (i might be starting to stress about summit a little, if no one had noticed) 01:21:27 <adahms> Roger that 01:21:34 <asettle> adahms, thanks :) what do you think? 01:21:36 <loquacities> would an evening work better for that, then? 01:21:47 <asettle> loquacities, evenings aren't always the best, simply because of children and lives etc 01:21:53 <loquacities> yeah, tell me about it 01:21:55 <asettle> But, if you want to do an evening thing, maybe straight after work? Haha 01:22:02 <adahms> Hmm, the schedule is going to be pretty busy during June / July, but we should be able to find a date in there somewhere 01:22:06 <asettle> A 4pm till 5pm 'dinner and learn' 01:22:13 <loquacities> we could order pizza 01:22:16 <asettle> adahms, thinking the first week of June - if you can find something free in there, that would be great 01:22:19 <asettle> loquacities, yes, that was ma plan :) 01:22:23 <loquacities> \o/ 01:22:29 <adahms> I'll ask around :) 01:22:35 <loquacities> ok, i might add an action for adahms then 01:22:37 <asettle> And those that went to summit can give us a bit of a talk about what happened, what the plans are, and where OS is going and what we can do to help 01:22:58 <loquacities> #action adahms to find a suitable date for a meetup in early june 01:23:17 <loquacities> i'd be happy to do that 01:23:22 <adahms> ack 01:23:30 <loquacities> i'll probably be up to my eyeballs in liberty planning by then :P 01:23:35 <asettle> Wonderful, anyone have any issues with the idea? 01:23:45 <loquacities> ok, next up: 01:23:49 <loquacities> #info Planning for APAC Docs Swarm on 17-18 August 01:23:55 <asettle> Oh, me again! 01:23:56 <loquacities> suyog: this is your baby now? 01:24:13 <suyog> Yeah, i'll follow up with the people here. 01:24:24 <suyog> The venue is still booked. 01:24:29 <asettle> Great news :) 01:24:38 <bmoss> the ghost of bmoss lives on in Zimbra... 01:24:40 <asettle> Officially I also have most of the 'old team' onboard as SMEs 01:24:47 <suyog> :) 01:24:53 <asettle> So we're nearly ready to go 01:25:12 <loquacities> great! 01:25:15 <loquacities> sounds like that's all under control, then 01:25:18 <suyog> btw, i thought it was 13-14 Aug 01:25:35 <bmoss> yeah, what suyog said ^^ 01:25:44 <loquacities> hrm, yeah, i think you're right 01:25:46 <loquacities> my agenda is wrong 01:25:49 * loquacities fixes that 01:25:50 <asettle> Haha 01:25:53 <suyog> cool, np! :) 01:25:58 <loquacities> #info Planning for APAC Docs Swarm on 13-14 August 01:26:14 <asettle> Haha 01:26:20 <loquacities> fixedf 01:26:22 <loquacities> fixed* 01:26:30 <loquacities> moving on ... 01:26:33 <loquacities> #topic Meeting time 01:27:12 <loquacities> #info Now on alternating weeks 01:27:14 <loquacities> #info Does this time work for everyone? 01:27:30 <loquacities> (i'm assuming so, since we only just changed the APAC docs meeting time anyway) 01:27:34 <adahms> Any chance we could move it an hour earlier? 01:27:42 <loquacities> to 10? 01:27:46 <loquacities> that wouldn't bother me 01:27:47 <adahms> Yep 01:27:54 <asettle> Aw guys 01:27:56 <asettle> That's early :p 01:27:58 <slong> :) 01:28:00 <loquacities> although it makes it 0000 UTC, which could be confusing 01:28:06 <asettle> HAHA 01:28:37 <loquacities> what if we split the difference, call it 0030? 01:28:47 <adahms> That works 01:28:55 <loquacities> ok, i'm cool with that 01:29:01 <loquacities> in other meeting-related news ... 01:29:08 <loquacities> #info Need someone to run US-timed meetings 01:29:22 <asettle> US people can't run the US meetings? 01:29:24 <loquacities> i'm assuming that most people here now are not really up for that job, though 01:29:39 <loquacities> well, this agenda gets reused through both meetings, so it applies to everyone ;) 01:29:44 <asettle> Oh goodie :) 01:29:45 <asettle> good* 01:29:53 <loquacities> essentially, we should find a US-based person to run the US meetings, though, yes :P 01:30:05 <asettle> Hahaha 01:30:09 <suyog> Any night owls? Not me. 01:30:11 <loquacities> because i certainly can't commit to doing a midnight or 1am meeting every fortnight 01:30:17 <loquacities> and i think anne wants a breather 01:30:21 <asettle> loquacities, what about Matt? 01:30:24 <darrenc> Sam-I-Am? 01:30:27 <asettle> ^^ 01:30:30 <slong> +1 01:30:33 <loquacities> asettle: definite possibility 01:30:34 <asettle> darrenc, and I are on the same wave length 01:30:51 <loquacities> anyway, that's it for today! 01:30:55 <asettle> Oh, there we go 01:30:59 <loquacities> #topic Open discussion 01:31:09 <loquacities> anything else? 01:31:24 <adahms> Nothing from my side 01:31:26 <slong> nope 01:31:31 <loquacities> cool, thanks adahms 01:31:35 <loquacities> thanks slong 01:31:40 <loquacities> i think we'll call that a meeting 01:31:43 <slong> bye 01:31:46 <loquacities> #endmeeting