00:32:15 <loquacities> #startmeeting docteam 00:32:16 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Aug 19 00:32:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:32:17 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:32:20 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' 00:32:24 <loquacities> roll call! 00:32:28 <Sam-I-Am> yo 00:32:34 <sicarie> o/ 00:32:35 <katomo> o/ 00:32:42 <bmoss> howdy 00:32:43 <darrenc> hi! 00:32:43 <dnavale> hi 00:32:43 <JRobinson__> JRobinson__, morning o/ 00:32:52 <loquacities> hi everyone, great to see you all :) 00:32:57 <loquacities> this should be a pretty speedy meeting, i think 00:33:07 <loquacities> #topic Action items from the last meeting 00:33:37 <loquacities> the only one i can see is one for andreas, who isn't here 00:33:39 <loquacities> so let's move on 00:33:51 <loquacities> #topic Liberty specs in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z 00:34:04 <loquacities> there's only one outstanding, which is the third party drivers one: 00:34:10 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191041/ (Third Party driver docs - still up for discussion) 00:34:13 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, that one... 00:34:18 <loquacities> in related news, the new API one got merged this morning: 00:34:24 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209669/ (API Docs, merged) 00:34:59 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: are you going to do another patchset on the driver docs one? 00:35:08 <Sam-I-Am> i... maybe? 00:35:22 <loquacities> :) 00:35:26 <Sam-I-Am> i havent been keeping track given all the other 'issues' 00:35:33 <loquacities> i think we have some kind of violent agreement now 00:35:40 <loquacities> i can do a patchset if you want 00:35:45 <Sam-I-Am> that would be nice 00:35:58 <loquacities> ok 00:36:01 * loquacities adds it to her list 00:36:19 <loquacities> ok, that's it for specs? 00:36:41 <loquacities> let's move on to speciality teams 00:36:47 <loquacities> #topic Speciality teams: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams 00:36:49 <amandap> o/ 00:36:54 <loquacities> hiya amandap 00:37:01 <loquacities> #info HA Guide - RST migration complete, need help with updating content. 00:37:08 <amandap> loquacities: Hiya :) 00:37:23 <loquacities> i've pinged the HA guide team to ask how they're going with publishing the RST guide, but haven't heard back yet 00:37:28 <loquacities> any HA people lurking? 00:37:43 <loquacities> i'll take that as a no 00:37:50 <loquacities> #info Install Guides - RST migration complete, testing for Liberty starting soon. 00:38:12 <loquacities> #info Networking Guide - Test & review for Liberty updates. 00:38:18 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: any update on networking? 00:38:32 <Sam-I-Am> yeah 00:38:50 <loquacities> hit us 00:38:51 <Sam-I-Am> more or less updated all of the scenarios, except for that patch that was merged too early 00:39:01 <loquacities> *sigh* 00:39:12 <Sam-I-Am> getting assaf muller to look at it, and then i'll update the linuxbridge version 00:39:18 <loquacities> cool 00:39:20 <Sam-I-Am> then we're done with those... i think 00:39:23 <loquacities> yay! 00:39:26 <Sam-I-Am> and 00:39:47 <Sam-I-Am> there's also a push to get more involvement in the underlying cloud networking knowledge 00:39:53 <Sam-I-Am> we need more bodies 00:40:11 <asettle> "Bodies" because nobody comes out alive?! 00:40:16 <Sam-I-Am> yes 00:40:24 <Sam-I-Am> there's a big gap in content now 00:40:26 <asettle> Great. 00:40:36 <Sam-I-Am> the scenarios are good, but not good if you have no clue whats going on with virtual networking 00:40:59 <Sam-I-Am> with everything else going on, it took me a couple months just for the scenario updates in kilo 00:41:08 <Sam-I-Am> now we're getting back to the install guide 00:41:11 <Sam-I-Am> so... 00:41:13 <Sam-I-Am> bodies 00:41:19 <loquacities> yeah, it's a constant problem 00:41:34 <Sam-I-Am> same with the install guide, really 00:41:37 <Sam-I-Am> or docs in general 00:41:39 <loquacities> maybe we should stake out upstream university to catch the fresh meat? ;) 00:41:52 <loquacities> i can highly recommend having docs mentors at that, actually 00:41:54 <asettle> Wow. They're not salmon. 00:42:07 <loquacities> we ended up with about three new docs ATCs from Vancouver 00:42:09 <asettle> Ahhhh actually, are they? 00:42:22 <loquacities> at least two are still around and actively contributing 00:42:39 <Sam-I-Am> better work on scaring them away too :) 00:42:46 <loquacities> is anyone planning on attending that in tokyo? 00:43:00 <katomo> y 00:43:05 <loquacities> katomo: yay! 00:43:12 <loquacities> as mentor? 00:43:31 <katomo> yes, as mentor 00:43:38 <loquacities> that's great news :) 00:43:50 <loquacities> sadly, i can't make it this time 00:44:00 <katomo> np 00:44:14 <loquacities> anyway, let's move on 00:44:19 <loquacities> #info Security Guide - RST conversion complete, and live. 00:44:25 <sicarie> Yay 00:44:26 <loquacities> go check it out, it's all shiny now :) 00:44:34 <loquacities> #info User Guides - Cloud Admin Guide RST migration complete, work starting on reorganisation. 00:44:45 <loquacities> JRobinson__: any update on the user guides? 00:44:56 <JRobinson__> Yes definitely - 00:45:16 <JRobinson__> as mentioned in the most recent newsletter, all the content is now converted \o/ 00:45:26 <loquacities> \o/ 00:45:52 <amandap> \o/ 00:45:56 <loquacities> close to publication, too? 00:46:03 <bmoss> JRobinson__, was there a resolution to those auto generated files? 00:46:12 <JRobinson__> common files attached to the guide are also now converted 00:46:25 <loquacities> yay 00:46:36 <JRobinson__> bmoss, there was a brief discussion on the mailing list 00:47:11 <bmoss> I think those two files are the final blocker to publication 00:47:20 <JRobinson__> #info the decision regarding auto generated files in .rst conversions - specifically the nove-livemigrations and nova-zookeeper in the cloud admin guide - is to link to the content rather than include them. 00:47:38 <bmoss> perfect. Let's publish then! 00:48:20 <JRobinson__> that was the next step :) I believe there are instructions on the Migrations page of the wiki. I'll check on those. 00:48:25 <loquacities> cool beans 00:48:26 <JRobinson__> s/was/is 00:48:28 <loquacities> let's move on then 00:48:35 <loquacities> #info Ops/Arch Guides - Arch Guide swarm was a success. Plans for reorganisation in Mitaka. 00:48:59 <loquacities> we'll come back to the swarm, but i know darrenc has spoken to shilla about the mitaka plans, and we can address that in more detail at sumit 00:49:03 <loquacities> summit* 00:49:21 <darrenc> sounds good 00:49:24 <loquacities> darrenc: did you want to add to that? 00:49:46 <darrenc> I was planning to draft specs for rst conversion and the reorg 00:49:53 <loquacities> good plan 00:50:06 <loquacities> i'll need to do a cleanup of all the liberty blueprints and specs in the coming weeks, too 00:50:15 <loquacities> ok, moving on 00:50:18 <loquacities> #info API docs - New API tool afoot. Python devs required! Contact Anne. 00:50:42 <loquacities> if you are a python dev (or you know someone who might be interested), please contact anne 00:50:59 <loquacities> #info Config Ref - Contact Guavain #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ConfigRef 00:51:06 <loquacities> #info Training Labs - Contact Pranav Salunke 00:51:16 <loquacities> you'll notice we now have training labs as a speciality team 00:51:30 <bmoss> \o/ 00:51:41 <loquacities> we've split labs out away from the other training guides, trying to maintain the momentum there 00:52:00 <loquacities> ok, that's all from me on speciality teams ... any other comments before we move on? 00:52:07 <asettle> LGTM 00:52:13 <sicarie> Yes 00:52:30 <sicarie> The security guide book is still on 1.0 00:52:34 <loquacities> sicarie: sorry, i missed you earlier on the security guide! 00:52:37 <loquacities> go right ahead :) 00:52:42 <sicarie> No worries 00:53:06 <sicarie> The process to push a new physical book is through the pdf, correct? 00:53:18 <loquacities> yeah, PDF then lulu 00:53:25 <sicarie> We just send it over when were happy with the content? 00:53:30 <loquacities> we do also need to work out how to do with RST 00:53:36 <loquacities> yep 00:53:44 <sicarie> Great, we will be doing that before Tokyo 00:53:48 <loquacities> awesome 00:53:56 <sicarie> As the 1.0 is.... dated 00:53:59 <loquacities> i looks forward to seeing this process in action! :) 00:54:04 <loquacities> look* 00:54:18 <loquacities> lulu is still very much a black box to me, so i'll learn as we go 00:55:12 <loquacities> ok, let's move on then ... 00:55:21 <loquacities> #topic Countdown to Liberty 00:55:42 <loquacities> #info 56 Days! #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20151015T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Liberty+Launch+Date&font=hand 00:56:14 <loquacities> regarding visas for tokyo: if you need one, you need to be organising that *now* 00:56:14 <Sam-I-Am> aight, i'm out 00:56:19 <loquacities> cya Sam-I-Am 00:56:40 <loquacities> is there anyone with questions about visa requirements? 00:56:59 <loquacities> right, ok 00:57:06 <loquacities> the other topic i wanted to mention here was ATC passes 00:57:25 <loquacities> if anyone thinks they should have an ATC pass and they haven't got one, please let me know on email 00:57:47 <katomo> ok 00:57:58 <loquacities> any other questions on summit stuff? 00:58:14 <asettle> Uhh not at this moment. 00:58:20 <loquacities> great, let's move on 00:58:29 <loquacities> #topic APAC Meetups 00:58:58 <loquacities> final entry here, just to say a huge thanks to suyog, bmoss, asettle and everyone else who helped out on the swarm 00:59:09 <loquacities> and a massive thanks to everyone who came along, created patches, and helped merge them 00:59:17 <loquacities> i had a blast, i hope you all did too :) 00:59:29 <bmoss> it was great, and we accomplished tonnes. 00:59:35 <loquacities> :D 00:59:41 <bmoss> I'd love to see a swarm here every 6 months 00:59:48 <loquacities> ooh, stepping it up ;) 01:00:00 <loquacities> we could do it as a mini mid-cycle ;) 01:00:11 <bmoss> that would be cool 01:00:18 <loquacities> too true 01:00:22 <JRobinson__> yes, sounds great :) 01:00:27 <loquacities> ok, finally we have some spotlight bugs: 01:00:35 <loquacities> #topic Spotlight bugs: 01:00:41 <loquacities> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1257018 VPNaaS isn't documented in cloud admin 01:00:41 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1257018 in openstack-manuals "VPNaaS isn't documented in cloud admin" [Medium,Confirmed] 01:00:48 <loquacities> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1257656 VMware: add support for VM diagnostics 01:00:48 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1257656 in openstack-manuals " VMware: add support for VM diagnostics" [Medium,Confirmed] 01:00:53 <loquacities> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1261969 Document nova server package 01:00:53 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1261969 in openstack-manuals "Document nova server package (WAS: Enable remote debugging for nova)" [Low,Confirmed] 01:01:08 <loquacities> i'll issue some new spotlight bugs in the newsletter this week 01:01:13 <asettle> Thanks :) 01:01:20 <loquacities> #topic Open discussion 01:01:31 <loquacities> ok, anything i missed? 01:02:21 <katomo> may be none 01:02:28 <loquacities> apparently not 01:02:35 <loquacities> right, i'll let you all have 28 minutes back 01:02:43 <loquacities> thanks for coming everyone :) 01:02:57 <loquacities> #endmeeting