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14:06:07 <ShillaSaebi> hi everyone :)
14:06:11 <berendt> hi
14:06:25 <robcresswell> o/
14:06:41 <bogdando> hi
14:06:44 <lbragstad> o/
14:06:54 <ShillaSaebi> #topic Action items from the last meeting
14:07:10 <ShillaSaebi> boss was to look into documenting openstack-doc-tools and the index page reorg
14:07:20 <katomo> hi
14:07:21 <ShillaSaebi> bmoss sorry
14:07:47 <ShillaSaebi> and suyog was to look into the index page summaries
14:08:00 <ShillaSaebi> do we have any updates on those items? bmoss and suyog are you around?
14:08:41 <ShillaSaebi> hmmm ok we will probably get an update on those items in the APAC meeting since that's when the action item was formed
14:08:57 <katomo> yeah
14:09:03 <ShillaSaebi> #topic Specs in review
14:09:11 <ShillaSaebi> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z
14:09:24 <ShillaSaebi> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240879/ (Upgrades)
14:09:33 <ShillaSaebi> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238770/ (User Guide reorg)
14:09:41 <ShillaSaebi> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227660/ (Ops Guide reorg)
14:09:48 <ShillaSaebi> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224420/ (DocImpact)
14:10:30 <berendt> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246660/ (app developer docs)
14:10:31 <ShillaSaebi> the upgrades one was merged
14:10:42 <ShillaSaebi> thanks berendt
14:11:07 <ShillaSaebi> any questions or comments on specs?
14:12:10 <katomo> o/
14:12:40 <katomo> "Upgrades" impact "Ops Guide reorg"
14:12:43 <ShillaSaebi> #topic Specialty Teams
14:12:48 <ShillaSaebi> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams
14:13:29 <ShillaSaebi> #info HA Guide - New speciality team formed under Bogdan Dobrelya.
14:13:50 <ShillaSaebi> #info Install Guides - RDO published. Debian still on hold. New speciality team formed under Christian Berendt - berendt
14:14:03 <ShillaSaebi> #info Networking Guide - New speciality team formed under Edgar Magana for Mitaka.
14:14:08 <ShillaSaebi> #info Security Guide - no update.
14:14:14 <ShillaSaebi> #info User Guides - Please review spec
14:14:20 <ShillaSaebi> #info Ops/Arch Guides - Please review specs
14:14:26 <ShillaSaebi> #info API docs - Fairy Slipper conversion underway: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/liberty/api-site.html
14:14:32 <ShillaSaebi> #info Config Ref - Waiting on RST conversion spec.
14:14:38 <ShillaSaebi> #info OpenStack Training Labs - Contact Pranav Salunke #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/openstack-labs
14:14:44 <ShillaSaebi> #info OpenStack Training Guides - Contact Matjaz Pancur #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides
14:14:50 <ShillaSaebi> #info Hyperviser Tuning Guide - Contact Joe Topjian
14:15:09 <bogdando> please note there is a poll to shift HA guide IRC meeting time http://doodle.com/poll/by7axmzznrcv59zf
14:15:24 <bogdando> so far only 3 persons participated including me
14:15:40 <ShillaSaebi> i saw something go out to the ML
14:15:55 <gpocentek> ConfigRef conversion has already started (spec approved)
14:16:14 <bogdando> yes, it is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-November/007865.html
14:16:28 <ShillaSaebi> bogdando maybe try sending an email to the folks who helped with the RST migrations for the HA guide and see if there will be some more participation?
14:16:44 <bogdando> will do, thanks
14:16:49 <berendt> bogdando: and send a reminder to the mailing list
14:17:22 <ShillaSaebi> anything else on the specialty teams?
14:17:50 <berendt> not for install at the moment
14:18:07 <ShillaSaebi> ok
14:18:17 <ShillaSaebi> #topic Countdown to Mitaka
14:18:29 <ShillaSaebi> 140 days!
14:18:37 <ShillaSaebi> #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20160407T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Mitaka+Launch+Date&font=cursive
14:18:53 <ShillaSaebi> We are looking for volunteers to help document the openstack-doc-tools
14:19:31 <ShillaSaebi> #info We also need volunteers to help reorganize the index page and write one-sentence summaries. The API docs have already been moved off.
14:20:04 <ShillaSaebi> so that was the action item we had from bmoss last week
14:20:19 <ShillaSaebi> and suyog for the index items
14:20:40 <ShillaSaebi> so it's best for us to wait for the update before finding new volunteers :)
14:21:07 <berendt> I can help with openstack-doc-tools
14:21:31 <berendt> I already chatted with Andreas to clarify if we can re-use the existing doc/source directory for the documentation. this will work.
14:21:55 <ShillaSaebi> #action berendt to help with documenting openstack-doc-tools
14:22:02 <ShillaSaebi> oh cool thanks!
14:22:16 <ShillaSaebi> fyi you were volunteered at the last meeting heh
14:22:50 <katomo> great
14:22:52 <berendt> ha :)
14:24:12 <annegentle> berendt: :)
14:25:12 <ShillaSaebi> alright any questions on that?
14:25:16 <ShillaSaebi> comments?
14:25:17 <ShillaSaebi> concerns?
14:25:28 <ShillaSaebi> alright moving along
14:25:35 <ShillaSaebi> #topic Spotlight bugs
14:26:04 <ShillaSaebi> #info Our new rewards scheme for closing out old bugs will be announced soon
14:26:21 <berendt> the one with the missing google analytics
14:26:50 <berendt> at the moment I am not sure with solution is the correct one, the one proposed by russel differs from the one lauren send to u
14:27:26 <berendt> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246376/ (openstackdocstheme google analytics)
14:27:44 <berendt> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246181/ (openstack-manuals google analytics)
14:28:27 <ShillaSaebi> I didn't get a chance to look at these yet
14:28:57 <ShillaSaebi> I saw annegentles email about it
14:29:01 <ShillaSaebi> I will take a look today
14:29:53 <ShillaSaebi> and the idea behind the closing bugs reward program will be that if you close X amount of bugs you get a free X (swag of some sort)
14:30:08 <ShillaSaebi> something fun to motivate us to close more bugs
14:30:15 <dguitarbite> ShillaSaebi: That sounds awesome!
14:30:24 <ShillaSaebi> yeah I love the idea dguitarbite
14:30:49 <berendt> sounds good to me :) a lot of swag.. ;)
14:30:54 <ShillaSaebi> as of last week, loquacities was still brewing up the plan and working on it
14:30:59 <robcresswell> That's awesome... who pays for the free X?
14:31:06 <ShillaSaebi> feel free to send suggestions her way, new car maybe?
14:31:12 <dguitarbite> Foundation :P
14:31:36 <robcresswell> nice
14:31:44 <katomo> :)
14:31:45 <ShillaSaebi> OpenStack foundation yet
14:31:47 <ShillaSaebi> yes*
14:32:11 <ShillaSaebi> any questions on the rewards prog?
14:32:57 <ShillaSaebi> oh it could be stuff from this store I believe: http://store.openstack.org/promotional-items.html
14:33:21 <ShillaSaebi> ok moving along
14:33:25 <ShillaSaebi> #topic Open discussion
14:33:33 <ShillaSaebi> anyone have anything they would like to bring up or discuss?
14:33:57 <berendt> there is no car in the store :(
14:34:02 <ShillaSaebi> hahaha
14:34:06 <ShillaSaebi> :(
14:34:07 <dguitarbite> I would like to give some status update on training labs
14:34:18 <ShillaSaebi> sure dguitarbite we'd love to hear it
14:34:19 <katomo> orz
14:34:56 <dguitarbite> Kilo port is almost complete, review should be merged in the next day or so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237061/
14:35:23 <dguitarbite> Some other minor fixes/features are added.
14:35:27 <ShillaSaebi> nice
14:35:39 <ShillaSaebi> I can take a look at this today
14:35:44 <dguitarbite> We aim to finish Liberty soonish.
14:35:55 <berendt> dguitarbite: can you take care of the "how to use the training labs with the install guide" thread ?
14:36:00 <katomo> nice
14:36:13 <dguitarbite> berendt: ok, Ill followup in there.
14:36:15 <annegentle> ShillaSaebi: I have an App dev guide spec ready for review here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246660/
14:36:19 <berendt> dguitarbite: thanks
14:36:27 <annegentle> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246660/
14:36:30 <dguitarbite> #action dguitarbite: Add training labs how to to install-guides thread
14:36:40 <ShillaSaebi> cool thank you annegentle
14:37:05 <ShillaSaebi> great, ill set aside some time to look at these today too
14:38:12 <ShillaSaebi> anyone have anything else to bring up?
14:38:14 <lbragstad> o/
14:38:37 <lbragstad> Hi all, I'll be the doc liaison for keystone this cycle (as determined by our fearless ptl!). I just wanted to drop by and let you all know that if you need anything keystone-wise, please don't hesitate to reach out.
14:38:49 <ShillaSaebi> hi lbragstad
14:38:52 <ShillaSaebi> thank you for letting us know
14:39:05 <ShillaSaebi> we appreciate it :)
14:39:08 <lbragstad> ShillaSaebi no problem, looking forward to it :)
14:39:24 <ShillaSaebi> alright! we have about 20 min left on the clock
14:39:32 <ShillaSaebi> if nobody has anything to bring up, I will go ahead and call it
14:39:40 <katomo> i have
14:39:43 <katomo> http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/rst-conv/inline-markups.html
14:39:57 <katomo> :program:`RabbitMQ`
14:40:12 <katomo> :command:`nova boot`
14:40:31 <katomo> do we need this conventions? simply use `` `` ?
14:41:19 <ShillaSaebi> thats the syntax right
14:41:37 <ShillaSaebi> the actual output shouldn't have that
14:42:03 <ShillaSaebi> for filename and path we have the doubles
14:42:33 <katomo> yeah
14:42:49 <berendt> katomo: use it like described in the conventions and ignore those comments written by me in the review request :)
14:43:28 <katomo> berendt: we use `` `` for filename and path
14:44:01 <katomo> for consistency and simplicity, i would like to use `` ``.
14:44:37 <ShillaSaebi> ok
14:44:38 <katomo> i dont know the reason program and command is special.
14:44:43 <berendt> katomo: this has to be discuess on the mailing list, can you propose it there?
14:44:50 <ShillaSaebi> do you want to start something on the ML
14:44:50 <katomo> sure
14:44:52 <ShillaSaebi> jinx!
14:45:00 <ShillaSaebi> yeah I think it's better if we start the conversation there
14:45:12 <ShillaSaebi> get some input...and then move fwd from that point
14:45:17 <berendt> katomo: I commented in the review request that use of :program: and :command: is fine at the moment, but I +1 to only use ``
14:45:48 <katomo> berendt: thanks
14:46:11 <ShillaSaebi> alright, great
14:46:17 <ShillaSaebi> anything else anyone wants to bring up?
14:46:36 <katomo> none
14:47:01 <ShillaSaebi> ok well, I will go ahead and call it then. Thank you all for joining and see you soon!
14:47:06 <ShillaSaebi> #endmeeting