00:31:29 <loquacities> #startmeeting docteam 00:31:30 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 27 00:31:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:31:31 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 00:31:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' 00:31:37 <loquacities> heya Sam-I-Am 00:31:43 <Sam-I-Am> hello 00:31:48 <loquacities> haven't seen you in this tz for a while ;) 00:32:04 <loquacities> who do we have here? 00:32:08 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, sort of trying to cut back on crazy hours... and have some other things going on in the evenings. 00:32:19 <darrenc> hi 00:32:25 <loquacities> sounds smart! 00:32:27 <loquacities> heya darrenc 00:32:29 <Sam-I-Am> but alas, i'm around tonight 00:32:37 <loquacities> well, our gain, anyway :) 00:34:00 <Sam-I-Am> seems kind of quiet 00:34:04 <loquacities> it does 00:34:11 <loquacities> no sign of katomo? 00:34:25 <katomo> hi 00:34:29 <loquacities> oh hi! 00:34:30 <katomo> good morning :) 00:34:39 <loquacities> ok, we can probably call that quorum 00:34:41 <JRobinson__> good morning 00:34:50 <JRobinson__> Yep, five contributors here. 00:35:00 <loquacities> #topic Action items from the last meeting 00:35:19 <loquacities> doesn't look like we have any 00:35:29 <loquacities> #topic Specs in review 00:35:34 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z 00:35:55 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336007/ 00:36:01 <loquacities> this is on release notes guidelines 00:36:12 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345639/ 00:36:22 <loquacities> and this is anne's spec about fixing hyphenation in RST filenames 00:36:29 <loquacities> so both of those are worth a look 00:36:42 <Sam-I-Am> the first one seems useful. release notes are usually awful. 00:36:54 <loquacities> yeah, that's come out of discussions at summit 00:37:19 <JRobinson__> The filename spec lists exactly what docs need adjustment in the work items 00:37:35 <loquacities> yes, i believe anne is going to enlist the relevant speciality teams 00:37:49 <JRobinson__> I can work on some of the User Guide items, and Olena has also offered help 00:37:57 <JRobinson__> I think it's fixable for Newton 00:38:07 <loquacities> cool! 00:38:20 <loquacities> ok, let's move on 00:38:26 <loquacities> #topic Speciality teams 00:38:32 <loquacities> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Speciality_Team_Reports 00:38:57 <loquacities> so, we have a new leader looking after the HA Guide now 00:39:03 <loquacities> Andrew Beekhof 00:39:19 <loquacities> hopefully that will help get that book going again 00:39:23 <Sam-I-Am> sure hope so 00:39:26 <loquacities> +1 00:39:28 <JRobinson__> Good to have a new leader. 00:39:41 <katomo> +1 00:39:54 <loquacities> otherwise, anne's been working hard on apip guides 00:40:25 <loquacities> oh, and the arch guide working group is worth mentioning, too 00:40:44 <Sam-I-Am> now the user guide needs some love with the osc :) 00:40:46 <katomo> hm 00:41:04 <loquacities> true 00:41:06 <katomo> Sam-I-Am: good point 00:41:15 <JRobinson__> Sam-I-Am, yes I'm adding the osc item to a spec 00:41:23 <loquacities> we probably need a push to get some more contributors to that team 00:41:31 <loquacities> i think JRobinson__ is feeling a little lonely ;) 00:41:33 <JRobinson__> The spec is for small IA and consistency edits carried over from mitaka 00:41:49 <JRobinson__> loquacities, I'll have an update for the newsletter this week too 00:42:01 <Sam-I-Am> we need more contributors of original content, in general 00:42:03 <JRobinson__> Only other user guide item is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1375506 00:42:03 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1375506 in openstack-manuals "Manual recovery in cloud admin guide - assumes shared storage" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Joseph Robinson (joseph-r-email) 00:42:03 <loquacities> cool 00:42:16 <loquacities> i'll send the reminder out about speciality team reports after this meeting 00:42:35 <JRobinson__> ^I contacted Sean Dague and Michael Still for Docs Liason help. 00:42:41 <loquacities> good plan 00:43:13 <loquacities> any other questions/comments on speciality teams? 00:43:27 <loquacities> oh, actually 00:43:47 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am and JRobinson__ i got contacted by a networking guy who wants to get started committing to docs 00:43:53 <loquacities> name of Vijay Oks 00:44:05 <loquacities> i pointed him in your (respective) direction 00:44:07 <Sam-I-Am> networking guy... 00:44:16 <loquacities> that's about all i know about him 00:44:45 <JRobinson__> good to know, thank you. 00:44:46 <loquacities> i might send an email intro for you both 00:44:55 <loquacities> ok, let's move on then 00:45:02 <loquacities> #topic Countdown to release 00:45:14 <loquacities> #info 70 days 00:45:22 <loquacities> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/NewtonDeliverables 00:45:24 <JRobinson__> 10 weeks exactly. 00:45:32 <loquacities> yep 00:45:38 <Sam-I-Am> they come around too quickly 00:45:42 <loquacities> it's true 00:45:44 <katomo> :) 00:46:04 <loquacities> so, i'm actually feeling pretty good about the deliverables list at this point 00:46:17 <loquacities> does anyone have any questions or concerns on release tasks? 00:47:14 <JRobinson__> Not at the moment. I think I can still complete the User Guide Newton items. 00:47:35 <loquacities> cool 00:47:36 <JRobinson__> There's no large scale reorg this release. 00:47:42 <loquacities> yeah, it helps :) 00:47:52 <Sam-I-Am> the net guide got a somewhat unexpected reorg :) 00:48:02 <loquacities> heh, yeah, i saw that :P 00:48:08 <Sam-I-Am> Minor Changes 00:48:52 <loquacities> ok, that brings us to ... 00:48:54 <loquacities> #topic Open discussion 00:49:08 <Sam-I-Am> should we backport the net guide reorg to mitaka? 00:49:10 <Sam-I-Am> discuss! 00:49:22 <loquacities> what's the argument for doing it? 00:49:39 <Sam-I-Am> its a mess now, and a lot of people will continue to use mitaka for the forseeable future 00:49:50 <Sam-I-Am> plus it makes changes to mitaka easier 00:50:03 <loquacities> that's a reasonable argument 00:50:07 <loquacities> is it difficult to do? 00:50:36 <JRobinson__> Depending on the use stats for Mitaka, it might be useful. 00:50:39 <Sam-I-Am> backporting changes in general or backporting this change? 00:50:47 <loquacities> this one in particular 00:51:25 <Sam-I-Am> its easy to do 00:51:33 <Sam-I-Am> just need to supply redirects 00:51:50 <loquacities> in that case, it's probably worth doing 00:52:34 <Sam-I-Am> aight, guess i'll submit it and see what happens 00:52:51 <Sam-I-Am> and a separate patch for the redirs 00:52:52 <loquacities> good luck, and godspeed 00:52:57 <loquacities> ok, anything else? 00:53:00 <katomo> great work 00:53:18 <Sam-I-Am> i'm also planning to update the scenarios when i get some time 00:53:25 <loquacities> \o/ 00:53:56 <loquacities> cool, ok, thanks everyone :) 00:54:04 <loquacities> #endmeeting