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00:31:37 <loquacities> heya Sam-I-Am
00:31:43 <Sam-I-Am> hello
00:31:48 <loquacities> haven't seen you in this tz for a while ;)
00:32:04 <loquacities> who do we have here?
00:32:08 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, sort of trying to cut back on crazy hours... and have some other things going on in the evenings.
00:32:19 <darrenc> hi
00:32:25 <loquacities> sounds smart!
00:32:27 <loquacities> heya darrenc
00:32:29 <Sam-I-Am> but alas, i'm around tonight
00:32:37 <loquacities> well, our gain, anyway :)
00:34:00 <Sam-I-Am> seems kind of quiet
00:34:04 <loquacities> it does
00:34:11 <loquacities> no sign of katomo?
00:34:25 <katomo> hi
00:34:29 <loquacities> oh hi!
00:34:30 <katomo> good morning :)
00:34:39 <loquacities> ok, we can probably call that quorum
00:34:41 <JRobinson__> good morning
00:34:50 <JRobinson__> Yep, five contributors here.
00:35:00 <loquacities> #topic Action items from the last meeting
00:35:19 <loquacities> doesn't look like we have any
00:35:29 <loquacities> #topic Specs in review
00:35:34 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z
00:35:55 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/336007/
00:36:01 <loquacities> this is on release notes guidelines
00:36:12 <loquacities> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345639/
00:36:22 <loquacities> and this is anne's spec about fixing hyphenation in RST filenames
00:36:29 <loquacities> so both of those are worth a look
00:36:42 <Sam-I-Am> the first one seems useful. release notes are usually awful.
00:36:54 <loquacities> yeah, that's come out of discussions at summit
00:37:19 <JRobinson__> The filename spec lists exactly what docs need adjustment in the work items
00:37:35 <loquacities> yes, i believe anne is going to enlist the relevant speciality teams
00:37:49 <JRobinson__> I can work on some of the User Guide items, and Olena has also offered help
00:37:57 <JRobinson__> I think it's fixable for Newton
00:38:07 <loquacities> cool!
00:38:20 <loquacities> ok, let's move on
00:38:26 <loquacities> #topic Speciality teams
00:38:32 <loquacities> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Speciality_Team_Reports
00:38:57 <loquacities> so, we have a new leader looking after the HA Guide now
00:39:03 <loquacities> Andrew Beekhof
00:39:19 <loquacities> hopefully that will help get that book going again
00:39:23 <Sam-I-Am> sure hope so
00:39:26 <loquacities> +1
00:39:28 <JRobinson__> Good to have a new leader.
00:39:41 <katomo> +1
00:39:54 <loquacities> otherwise, anne's been working hard on apip guides
00:40:25 <loquacities> oh, and the arch guide working group is worth mentioning, too
00:40:44 <Sam-I-Am> now the user guide needs some love with the osc :)
00:40:46 <katomo> hm
00:41:04 <loquacities> true
00:41:06 <katomo> Sam-I-Am: good point
00:41:15 <JRobinson__> Sam-I-Am, yes I'm adding the osc item to a spec
00:41:23 <loquacities> we probably need a push to get some more contributors to that team
00:41:31 <loquacities> i think JRobinson__ is feeling a little lonely ;)
00:41:33 <JRobinson__> The spec is for small IA and consistency edits carried over from mitaka
00:41:49 <JRobinson__> loquacities, I'll have an update for the newsletter this week too
00:42:01 <Sam-I-Am> we need more contributors of original content, in general
00:42:03 <JRobinson__> Only other user guide item is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1375506
00:42:03 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1375506 in openstack-manuals "Manual recovery in cloud admin guide - assumes shared storage" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Joseph Robinson (joseph-r-email)
00:42:03 <loquacities> cool
00:42:16 <loquacities> i'll send the reminder out about speciality team reports after this meeting
00:42:35 <JRobinson__> ^I contacted Sean Dague and Michael Still for Docs Liason help.
00:42:41 <loquacities> good plan
00:43:13 <loquacities> any other questions/comments on speciality teams?
00:43:27 <loquacities> oh, actually
00:43:47 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am and JRobinson__ i got contacted by a networking guy who wants to get started committing to docs
00:43:53 <loquacities> name of Vijay Oks
00:44:05 <loquacities> i pointed him in your (respective) direction
00:44:07 <Sam-I-Am> networking guy...
00:44:16 <loquacities> that's about all i know about him
00:44:45 <JRobinson__> good to know, thank you.
00:44:46 <loquacities> i might send an email intro for you both
00:44:55 <loquacities> ok, let's move on then
00:45:02 <loquacities> #topic Countdown to release
00:45:14 <loquacities> #info 70 days
00:45:22 <loquacities> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/NewtonDeliverables
00:45:24 <JRobinson__> 10 weeks exactly.
00:45:32 <loquacities> yep
00:45:38 <Sam-I-Am> they come around too quickly
00:45:42 <loquacities> it's true
00:45:44 <katomo> :)
00:46:04 <loquacities> so, i'm actually feeling pretty good about the deliverables list at this point
00:46:17 <loquacities> does anyone have any questions or concerns on release tasks?
00:47:14 <JRobinson__> Not at the moment. I think I can still complete the User Guide Newton items.
00:47:35 <loquacities> cool
00:47:36 <JRobinson__> There's no large scale reorg this release.
00:47:42 <loquacities> yeah, it helps :)
00:47:52 <Sam-I-Am> the net guide got a somewhat unexpected reorg :)
00:48:02 <loquacities> heh, yeah, i saw that :P
00:48:08 <Sam-I-Am> Minor Changes
00:48:52 <loquacities> ok, that brings us to ...
00:48:54 <loquacities> #topic Open discussion
00:49:08 <Sam-I-Am> should we backport the net guide reorg to mitaka?
00:49:10 <Sam-I-Am> discuss!
00:49:22 <loquacities> what's the argument for doing it?
00:49:39 <Sam-I-Am> its a mess now, and a lot of people will continue to use mitaka for the forseeable future
00:49:50 <Sam-I-Am> plus it makes changes to mitaka easier
00:50:03 <loquacities> that's a reasonable argument
00:50:07 <loquacities> is it difficult to do?
00:50:36 <JRobinson__> Depending on the use stats for Mitaka, it might be useful.
00:50:39 <Sam-I-Am> backporting changes in general or backporting this change?
00:50:47 <loquacities> this one in particular
00:51:25 <Sam-I-Am> its easy to do
00:51:33 <Sam-I-Am> just need to supply redirects
00:51:50 <loquacities> in that case, it's probably worth doing
00:52:34 <Sam-I-Am> aight, guess i'll submit it and see what happens
00:52:51 <Sam-I-Am> and a separate patch for the redirs
00:52:52 <loquacities> good luck, and godspeed
00:52:57 <loquacities> ok, anything else?
00:53:00 <katomo> great work
00:53:18 <Sam-I-Am> i'm also planning to update the scenarios when i get some time
00:53:25 <loquacities> \o/
00:53:56 <loquacities> cool, ok, thanks everyone :)
00:54:04 <loquacities> #endmeeting