03:04:38 <loquacities> #startmeeting DocTeamMeeting
03:04:39 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Jan 21 03:04:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
03:04:40 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
03:04:43 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'docteammeeting'
03:05:01 <loquacities> hey everyone, sorry for the late start :)
03:05:13 <Sam-I-Am> no problem
03:05:31 <loquacities> #topic Action items from last meeting
03:06:14 * loquacities slong or chandankumar add WIP info to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HowTo#Reviewing_Documentation (annegentle, 14:04:41)
03:06:35 <loquacities> slong: do you have an update on that?
03:06:57 <Sam-I-Am> i think chandan added it
03:07:01 <slong> I saw that chandankumar wrote something, I gave him an edit, but
03:07:05 <slong> hasn't been put in.
03:07:06 <loquacities> oh cool
03:07:12 <loquacities> excellent
03:07:21 <slong> Left it with him.
03:07:27 * loquacities NickChase and carlp and Sam-I-Am to meet
03:07:30 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am?
03:07:44 <loquacities> re:  installation guide changes for Icehouse
03:07:44 <Sam-I-Am> we met last wednesday and we're meeting again this thursday
03:08:01 <loquacities> cool, need anything?
03:08:07 <Sam-I-Am> nick is putting together three blueprints for neutron... install guide reorg, cloud admin guide, and possibly a book
03:08:16 <loquacities> oh, that is cool
03:08:35 <Sam-I-Am> i'm also trying to install icehouse in my lab to work on ML2
03:08:42 <loquacities> definitely all things i'm interested in :)
03:09:05 * loquacities NickChase to contact Edgar Magana on the neutron team to let him know the networking guide plan
03:09:16 <loquacities> Sam-I-Am: can you comment on that?
03:09:32 <Sam-I-Am> egdar was pulled into the loop in some e-mails
03:09:38 <loquacities> ok, cool
03:09:54 * loquacities annegentle to email Nick and Edgar
03:09:54 <Sam-I-Am> i think he's going to be on the meeting on thursday
03:09:59 <loquacities> ^^ probably the same answer, yeah?
03:10:05 <Sam-I-Am> yeah
03:10:13 * loquacities NickChase to email openstack-docs mailing list with plan for networking guide
03:10:37 <Sam-I-Am> i havent seen that one yet
03:10:50 <loquacities> there's been discussion, though, so i'm assuming we're well on the way
03:11:02 <loquacities> ok, that's it for action items
03:11:05 <loquacities> any comment on those?
03:11:06 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, most of it is around the neutron HA stuff
03:11:32 <loquacities> yeah, i'm sorry i missed that convo
03:11:43 <loquacities> #topic Report from Doc Bug Day Dec 20
03:11:59 <Sam-I-Am> that was a blast
03:12:15 <loquacities> #link http://bit.ly/1b32JM0
03:12:39 <loquacities> yeah, it was pretty awesome :)
03:12:52 <loquacities> something like 80 bugs, according to anne
03:13:29 <loquacities> #topic Schedule January Monthly Google Hangout
03:13:47 <loquacities> so, anne and i have been going back and forth on this one, and there some chatter on the list too
03:14:07 <loquacities> the current date i have is 29 jan, 2000 UTC
03:14:23 <Sam-I-Am> me too
03:14:30 <loquacities> that's not wonderful for us, but anne is trying to get europe in on this one
03:14:58 <loquacities> the stated point is that it's a good idea to just see each other and chat a bit every so often, although i think there'll be a loose agenda
03:14:58 <slong> er, that's 6am?
03:15:17 <loquacities> slong: yeah, she wants to move them around to give everyone a chance
03:15:24 <loquacities> so this time we draw the short straw
03:15:31 <slong> believe me 6 is better than 11/12pm.
03:15:39 <loquacities> yeah, i agree FWIW
03:16:01 <Sam-I-Am> as long as there's coffee
03:16:05 <slong> :)
03:16:09 <loquacities> so anyway, is everyone cool with that day/time?
03:16:15 <slong> +1
03:16:19 <loquacities> (acknowledging that it might be difficult for people in our tz)
03:16:29 <slong> will endeavor....
03:16:33 <loquacities> awesome
03:16:53 <loquacities> quiet meeting today
03:16:54 <Sam-I-Am> fine here too
03:17:19 <slong> lots of stuff going on. Harder to focus when you're at work :)
03:17:22 <loquacities> awesome, thanks Sam-I-Am
03:17:25 <loquacities> yeah, tell me about it ;)
03:17:26 <Sam-I-Am> fifield is in the US
03:17:33 <loquacities> oh, he's travelling?
03:17:37 <Sam-I-Am> yeah
03:17:45 <loquacities> ok, i'll take that as a yes for the hangout, anyway
03:17:47 <Sam-I-Am> some sort of staff meeting
03:17:51 <loquacities> #topic Webinar in February (date tbd) to update Icehouse doc/qa/infra plans
03:18:05 <loquacities> i haven't got any updated info on this other than what anne said in the meeting last week
03:18:30 <loquacities> 14:18:39 <annegentle> this summit, HK, they stopped having the PTLs give an update for plans during the Summit itself
03:18:31 <loquacities> 14:18:48 <annegentle> so, they're doing webinars after
03:18:31 <loquacities> 14:18:52 <annegentle> this is docs turn
03:18:31 <loquacities> 14:18:56 <annegentle> should be first week of Feb.
03:18:45 <loquacities> so just a heads up for that
03:18:50 <slong> Interesting
03:19:01 <loquacities> yeah, i thought so too, slong :)
03:19:13 <loquacities> #topic Done with backports to stable/havana
03:19:20 <loquacities> just in case you didn't get that memo already
03:19:31 <Sam-I-Am> there's always one more
03:19:34 <slong> question about backports...
03:19:56 <slong> only the Install Guide gets an actual branch, right?
03:20:05 <loquacities> i believe so
03:20:08 <slong> So the other guides are continually integrated?
03:20:11 <loquacities> yep
03:20:21 <slong> And switching this week or next to Icehouse?
03:20:30 <loquacities> this week
03:20:42 <slong> kk, just getting my head around the process.
03:20:46 <loquacities> np
03:21:06 <loquacities> #topic Discuss any installation guide changes for Icehouse
03:21:22 <loquacities> there was a fair bit of discussion around this at last week's meeting
03:21:27 <Sam-I-Am> yes
03:21:30 <loquacities> but i think most of it has moved onto the mailing list now
03:21:56 <Sam-I-Am> neutron became a project by itself
03:22:07 <loquacities> basically, we're continuing with the manual install/choose your own adventure style, with the exception of networking
03:22:08 <loquacities> yep
03:22:21 <loquacities> so there's a plan afoot for a new networking book, yeah?
03:22:25 <Sam-I-Am> yeah
03:22:43 <Sam-I-Am> i think we're leaning toward making the install guide "just work" for the most common cases
03:22:56 <Sam-I-Am> then move the more advanced things into other places
03:23:14 <loquacities> i think that's sane
03:23:29 <loquacities> #topic Doc tools update - release to support Japanese translation
03:23:53 <loquacities> so i don't have a lot of info on this one
03:24:13 <Sam-I-Am> me neither
03:24:23 <loquacities> but i believe that's all underway, and shouldn't particular impact our workflow
03:24:59 <loquacities> ok, i think that wraps up the agenda
03:25:05 <loquacities> #topic Open discussion
03:25:06 <slong> one thing.
03:25:17 <slong> The ops guide sprint still happening this week?
03:25:36 <loquacities> oh, i don't know
03:25:41 <loquacities> i've been out of the loop a bit, sorry
03:26:04 <slong> I've done the provisional neutron/HA architecture update, but it's still getting a tech review.
03:26:12 <loquacities> and i can't see anything on the ML other than anne on the 14th
03:26:13 <slong> Hoping to have that done by tomorrow.
03:26:20 <loquacities> ok, sounds good
03:26:28 <slong> Ok, won't panic then. Anne had initially said 22.Jan
03:26:39 <loquacities> yeah, that's the most recent email i can find
03:26:44 <loquacities> nothing confirming that
03:26:59 <slong> Well, will soldier on...
03:27:08 <loquacities> love your work :)
03:27:22 <loquacities> also: i think we may be due to organise a BNE openstack writers meetup, yeah?
03:28:57 <loquacities> slong: ^^ ?
03:29:07 <slong> sorry, someone talking...
03:29:10 <loquacities> np
03:29:11 <slong> Yes, definitely :)
03:29:30 <Sam-I-Am> took me a while to figure out what 'bne' meant :/
03:29:30 <loquacities> ok, well, i'll send you an email and we can get that happening
03:29:46 <loquacities> oh! sorry Sam-I-Am, it's the airport code for brisbane :)
03:30:02 <loquacities> ok, any other business?
03:30:12 <Sam-I-Am> nothing from me
03:30:21 <loquacities> slong?
03:30:27 <slong> nope, all good
03:30:30 <loquacities> awesome
03:30:32 <slong> thanks for running things
03:30:55 <loquacities> sorry for missing last fortnight
03:31:05 <loquacities> oh! that reminds me ... how do we feel about moving to wednesday meetings?
03:31:22 <slong> I missed whether US was moving permanently?
03:31:23 <loquacities> also, while i'm on the topic: is this timing ok?
03:31:27 <loquacities> yes, they are
03:31:37 <slong> +1 on timing
03:31:44 <slong> +1 on wednesday then
03:31:52 <loquacities> ok, so same time, but on wednesdays
03:31:53 <annegentle> slong: yes, ops guide sprint still Thurs/Fri this week.
03:32:00 <loquacities> i'll update the wiki
03:32:04 <Sam-I-Am> i think i'm ok with wednesdays too
03:32:07 <loquacities> oh hi annegentle :)
03:32:08 * annegentle pops in
03:32:13 <Sam-I-Am> in this time zone i can usually make both meetings
03:32:18 <slong> Ok, will make sure the commit is there for the ops guide
03:32:23 <annegentle> slong: I just got parts working today I think, a few more brushups on the toolside
03:32:29 <annegentle> slong: thank you!
03:32:35 <Sam-I-Am> hi anne!
03:32:38 <slong> 'parts'?
03:32:42 <annegentle> also chandankumar has one in the review queue
03:32:54 <annegentle> slong: so the editor keeps asking for two parts: architecture and operations
03:33:07 <annegentle> slong: and it's sorta what we wanted in the first place also, but our tool couldn't output it
03:33:23 <annegentle> so now we can make o'reilly editors happy AND have our output nice :)
03:33:24 <slong> oh, interesting.
03:33:33 <loquacities> nice :)
03:33:50 <loquacities> i'm a big fan of <part>s generally
03:34:09 <slong> annegentle, this is the change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67763/
03:34:10 <annegentle> loquacities: yeah once we get it working I'll send a note to the list - Cloud Admin Guide might like some parts
03:34:16 <loquacities> i agree
03:34:35 <annegentle> slong: great! I will take a look!
03:34:36 <slong> If my tech reviewer doesn't get back to me by this afternoon, just go ahead and take as is?
03:34:59 <slong> I'll raise a bug for anything that comes up.
03:35:03 <annegentle> slong: I think so
03:35:09 <Sam-I-Am> slong: is this the active/active thing?
03:35:11 <slong> At least the sprint will have the bulk.
03:35:14 <slong> ha/neutron
03:35:31 <slong> yes
03:36:15 <slong> but doesn't use that terminology, rather that everything is backing everything else up :)
03:36:27 <loquacities> lol
03:36:32 <slong> yeah
03:36:34 <Sam-I-Am> i c
03:36:51 <loquacities> ok, any other business?
03:37:37 <loquacities> thanks everyone :)
03:37:39 <loquacities> #endmeeting