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08:04:34 <mattoliverau> o/
08:04:35 <diablo_rojo> Sorry I'm late!
08:04:43 <diablo_rojo> distracted by youtube
08:04:48 <gmann> o/
08:04:57 <mattoliverau> lol, well at least you weren't asleep
08:05:00 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, around?
08:05:27 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, nope not sleeping yet
08:05:34 <diablo_rojo> Surprisingly not that tired.
08:05:35 <mattoliverau> I haven't seen her say morning on the internal Suse chat.. so maybe running late
08:05:50 <diablo_rojo> We can give it another five minutes or so.
08:05:57 <diablo_rojo> I'm in no rush.
08:06:15 <mattoliverau> diablo_rojo: sure, just make sure your next youtube vid is less then 5 mins :P
08:06:40 <diablo_rojo> 4 min and 16 seconds
08:06:55 <gmann> :)
08:08:30 <diablo_rojo> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Agenda for everyone's perusal :)
08:10:07 <diablo_rojo> Okay
08:10:14 <diablo_rojo> Well I suppose we can get rolling
08:10:17 <mattoliverau> kk
08:10:29 <diablo_rojo> #topic New Contributor Patches!
08:10:38 <diablo_rojo> Everyone do their homework?
08:11:01 <diablo_rojo> I think we are actually making solid progress.
08:11:03 <gmann> yea, i just finished review part 5 min ago
08:11:14 <mattoliverau> kinda.. I looked. and opened the openstack ansible one.. but that's as far as I got today.. was a little busier then I expected
08:11:28 <mattoliverau> gmann: nice work :)
08:11:35 <diablo_rojo> I've just been keeping up with the new StoryBoard ones.
08:11:42 <diablo_rojo> gmann, nice :)
08:12:04 <mattoliverau> So dunce hat for me this week then :)
08:12:10 <gmann> managed to get one of the tempest patch in from new contributor who did not show up and fixed trivial things by myself. once he saw his patch merge then may be he come back :)
08:12:32 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, demerit on this topic, but you'll get part of a gold star later for other things so it should balance out.
08:12:34 <diablo_rojo> :)
08:12:41 <mattoliverau> gmann: lol, now that they're a contributor :)
08:12:50 <diablo_rojo> gmann, that would be cool
08:12:54 <gmann> yea :)
08:13:07 <mattoliverau> \o/
08:13:56 <diablo_rojo> Anyone got anything else for this?
08:14:11 <gmann> nothing from me.
08:14:39 <mattoliverau> so whats the best way to ping a liason.. in channel or add them to the review.. or both? ;)
08:14:53 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, I would say ping them directly
08:15:07 <diablo_rojo> and maybe also add them as a reviewer after you ping them so they don't forget
08:15:29 <mattoliverau> cool, was wondering if I could be lazy :P
08:16:14 <mattoliverau> that's all I have :)
08:16:50 <diablo_rojo> Just how lazy did you want to be? :)
08:17:46 <mattoliverau> I was just in a hurry today. And wondered.. but everyone should be in #openstack-dev so really a ping is easier as otherwise I have to look them up via gerrit
08:18:26 * mattoliverau assumes they all would be with bouncers etc anyway
08:18:38 <diablo_rojo> Makes sense. A ping I think works well.
08:18:44 <diablo_rojo> Yeah that would be my assumption as well
08:18:50 <diablo_rojo> For most people anyway
08:18:56 <diablo_rojo> Next topic?
08:19:24 <mattoliverau> yup
08:19:25 <diablo_rojo> #topic New Contributor of the Month
08:19:44 <diablo_rojo> So I was dragging my feet on this for two reasons
08:20:15 <diablo_rojo> 1. I couldn't remember exactly where we decided to give this person attention (dev digest doesn't seem to be a thing here lately)
08:20:37 <diablo_rojo> 2. Wanted to wait for her to get her first patch merged, but she hasn't had much time to get comments addressed.
08:20:48 <diablo_rojo> So. Yeah.
08:20:57 <mattoliverau> cool, fair enough. Wait for the merge
08:21:06 <gmann> yea
08:21:25 <mattoliverau> as for 1. we should have a small blog post
08:21:46 <diablo_rojo> Just the regular openstack blog? Like where the dev digest goes?
08:21:48 <mattoliverau> that can happen as frequently or as infrequently as required.
08:21:54 <mattoliverau> yeah.
08:21:58 <diablo_rojo> Makes sense to me.
08:22:14 <diablo_rojo> So that's all I had to say about that topic.
08:22:22 <mattoliverau> if we can find a contributor every month.. great. we can call it "of the month"
08:22:49 <gmann> yea, whenever we have its good to appraise
08:22:50 <mattoliverau> otherwise, if it's only as frequent as we can. maybe we think of a different name
08:23:21 <diablo_rojo> Ha ha yeah or they can just be 'of the month' and then it can be 'of the month two months later'
08:23:35 <mattoliverau> lol true
08:23:46 <mattoliverau> we never said the cadence would be montly :P
08:23:54 <mattoliverau> its just of the month :P
08:23:58 <gmann> "Emerging contributors" :)
08:24:07 <mattoliverau> ohh not bad
08:24:21 <mattoliverau> hold on need to carry the toddler upstairs from her bath
08:24:23 <mattoliverau> brb
08:24:25 <diablo_rojo> That is a good one
08:24:31 <diablo_rojo> Ha ha ha
08:24:52 <gmann> :) mattoliverau  hehe
08:25:01 <diablo_rojo> I suppose we can move onto the next topic as there won't be much to say there either.
08:25:09 <diablo_rojo> #topic Ask.o.o
08:25:29 <gmann> yea
08:26:11 <mattoliverau> back
08:26:20 <diablo_rojo> Not seeing much new in the way of questions there
08:26:27 <gmann> nothing new there in this week too.
08:26:30 <gmann> yeah
08:26:38 <mattoliverau> sorry, toddler was wet, stairs are slippery and wife is pregnant so can't pick her up.
08:27:01 <mattoliverau> yeah, I didn't see anything new.
08:27:06 <diablo_rojo> That sounds like a scary combo for any human let along a pregnant one.
08:27:21 <mattoliverau> its true
08:27:23 <diablo_rojo> One noteable thing on this topic was that Jimmy (at the foundation) was asking about getting help watch it and was pleased when I told him we were.
08:27:30 <gmann> i just answered the additional info in one of the question. otherwise no new things there
08:27:50 <diablo_rojo> Also asked if he wanted us to watch any other tags related to new contributors but haven't gotten any yet.
08:28:01 <gmann> nice.
08:28:21 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, just saw this old one: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/33082/want-to-contribute-for-swift-documentation/
08:28:24 <mattoliverau> ahh good question. good cause so far it feels quiet
08:28:35 <mattoliverau> _what_
08:28:45 <diablo_rojo> Yeah maybe there are tags we are missing that we should be looking at.
08:28:51 <diablo_rojo> I just went for the obvious two
08:29:02 <mattoliverau> in the past I just vulenteered asettle for that :P
08:29:27 <diablo_rojo> but if either of you have new ideas for tags I am all for adding to our list
08:29:32 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, lol
08:29:41 <diablo_rojo> I am sure she appreciated that.
08:29:51 <mattoliverau> she loved it, ask her about it next time ;)
08:30:22 <diablo_rojo> Ha ha will do.
08:30:30 <diablo_rojo> Anywho, other tags?
08:31:27 <mattoliverau> hmm, going to tags is a big wall of text that my brain can't handle right now.
08:31:46 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, I was about to say the same
08:31:58 <diablo_rojo> #link https://ask.openstack.org/en/tags/ ask.o.o wall of tags
08:32:22 <mattoliverau> during the week I'll try and parse the list and see if any others pop up
08:32:22 <diablo_rojo> And they get so teeny towards the bottom
08:32:33 <diablo_rojo> Sounds good. I will try to do the same.
08:32:41 <diablo_rojo> Next topic?
08:32:42 <mattoliverau> yeah, I assume that means there not used as much. So anything bigger would be more useful
08:32:54 <diablo_rojo> My assumption as well
08:33:04 <mattoliverau> maybe even copy and paste and get thing in one column or something
08:33:17 <mattoliverau> *them
08:33:18 <gmann> is it all pre approved tag or they are being added whatever author tag?
08:33:32 <diablo_rojo> Concerning that Juno and Icehouse are so close to the top for how old they are
08:33:43 <diablo_rojo> gmann, I think they are just whatever the author added
08:33:55 * diablo_rojo tries to recall when I set up my dummy question
08:34:04 <mattoliverau> maybe there are still people out there using them. or maybe there also updated when topics are visited?
08:34:04 <diablo_rojo> when *she set up
08:34:13 <gmann> then we should restrict those and allow only pre approvd tag like LP ?
08:34:23 <mattoliverau> yeah, emoting language can be hard :P
08:34:35 * diablo_rojo is normally pretty good at it
08:34:49 <diablo_rojo> gmann, yeah that would be helpful
08:35:08 <diablo_rojo> today I learned that TripleO has all their tags documented and its in their repo even
08:35:08 <mattoliverau> ouch sort by name is worse
08:35:15 <diablo_rojo> Its beautiful.
08:35:18 <mattoliverau> sizes don't change
08:35:29 <mattoliverau> oh cool
08:35:43 <diablo_rojo> I think size corresponds to usage.
08:35:48 <diablo_rojo> Larger means more uses
08:35:51 <gmann> i will check that part sometime if we can have allowed tag only there.
08:35:51 <mattoliverau> yeah
08:36:07 <diablo_rojo> Love how Nova is first lol
08:36:37 <diablo_rojo> Oh if you hover over the word you can see how many times its used.
08:36:52 <diablo_rojo> Swift has 1282
08:37:18 <mattoliverau> ahh cool. Maybe I should go look at those questions and make sure there answers are up to date
08:37:34 <mattoliverau> over time of course.. 1282 is too much for me in one go :P
08:37:46 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I would take that a few at a time.
08:38:11 <diablo_rojo> Anything else here?
08:38:15 <diablo_rojo> Or shall I move on?
08:38:31 <gmann> mattoliverau: may be last 6 months are good to take, older one might be not seen by author now :)
08:38:53 <diablo_rojo> Attainable goals :)
08:39:06 <diablo_rojo> #topic rollover of #openstack-101
08:39:09 <mattoliverau> true but peolpe looking for answers will look at old answers
08:39:23 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, you're up :)
08:40:02 <mattoliverau> Cool, so I've gone and raised 2 patches to remove #openstack-101 from the irc bots
08:40:16 <mattoliverau> #link https://review.openstack.org/559249
08:40:25 <mattoliverau> #link https://review.openstack.org/559250
08:40:40 <mattoliverau> Both have at least 1 +2 each.
08:40:51 <diablo_rojo> Progress!
08:40:52 <mattoliverau> thanks you two for given them a +1 :)
08:41:01 <diablo_rojo> No problem :)
08:41:25 <gmann> thanks :)
08:41:26 <mattoliverau> once they land, we can do the next step. Which is getting up the redirect from #openstack-101 to #openstack-dev
08:41:37 <gmann> thanks :)
08:41:49 <mattoliverau> fungi: said that there is no problem doing the redirect afterwards.. so lets do that
08:42:17 <mattoliverau> So really I'm waiting for them to land. And then I'll go pester an infra-core/root to finish it off
08:42:43 <diablo_rojo> I suppose I should have mentioned them in the infra meeting today
08:43:08 <gmann> mattoliverau: nice.  +1
08:43:09 <mattoliverau> the documentation says, to wait (in channel before the redirect, cause otherwise you can't get back in) and remind people to leave and ofter some time week/month? they could be kicked
08:43:29 <diablo_rojo> I think a week is fine
08:43:36 <diablo_rojo> given how few people watch the channel anyway
08:43:39 <mattoliverau> diablo_rojo: well if you could go back in time please, that would be great
08:43:48 <mattoliverau> yeah +1
08:44:13 <mattoliverau> #link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html#renaming-an-irc-channel
08:44:30 <mattoliverau> For those playing along at home ^ there are the instructions for the redirect
08:45:09 <mattoliverau> The #openstack-101 channel topic has already been updated warning people it will be removed soon.
08:45:21 <diablo_rojo> I might be talented but I am not so talented- or fortunate enough to have a tardis.
08:45:23 <gmann> yea, show that.
08:45:47 <mattoliverau> diablo_rojo: no stress then :)
08:45:58 <mattoliverau> that's all the update I have there.
08:46:14 <diablo_rojo> Works for me. Thanks for doing all of that!
08:46:18 <mattoliverau> s/there/on that topic/
08:46:22 <diablo_rojo> I appreciate it mattoliverau :)
08:46:28 <mattoliverau> nps
08:47:18 <gmann> mattoliverau: yea, thanks.
08:47:26 <diablo_rojo> #topic Forum Discussion Planning
08:47:43 <diablo_rojo> Can't remember when I submitted them- was that before last meeting?
08:48:11 * gmann thanks diablo_rojo and thsi topic which reminds to add QA forum topic before 15th
08:48:27 <gmann> diablo_rojo: yea, 2 you submitted i think
08:49:05 <diablo_rojo> gmann, no problem :)
08:49:17 <diablo_rojo> Yes I did- for this group at least.
08:49:25 <diablo_rojo> More to come for other things I am working on.
08:49:47 <mattoliverau> cool, and thanks again for summitting them!
08:49:50 <diablo_rojo> Feel free to go make comments on them in support of the topics if you feel so compelled
08:50:08 <gmann> yea nice idea
08:50:32 <diablo_rojo> #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ Forum Topic Submission Tool
08:50:56 <diablo_rojo> Hopefully one or both are selected
08:51:16 <diablo_rojo> I think they are super important conversations to be had
08:51:30 <mattoliverau> +1
08:51:35 <diablo_rojo> But we shall see how many more equally or more important get submitted :)
08:52:43 <diablo_rojo> That's all I had there :)
08:52:50 <diablo_rojo> Was just to mention them if I hadn't
08:52:55 <diablo_rojo> and ask for comments
08:53:27 <mattoliverau> it's also good to remind us so we remember to make comments and keep thinking about/organising them :)
08:53:36 <diablo_rojo> That too
08:53:43 <diablo_rojo> :D
08:53:45 <mattoliverau> until the summit it should be a sticky topic IMHO
08:53:56 <diablo_rojo> Happy to leave it on the agenda
08:54:14 <diablo_rojo> #topic Open Discussion
08:54:23 <diablo_rojo> 6 min left :)
08:56:23 <diablo_rojo> Anyone got anything else? :)
08:56:34 <gmann> nothing from my side.
08:56:56 <mattoliverau> nope
08:57:09 <diablo_rojo> Everyone got summit hotels booked?
08:57:11 <mattoliverau> diablo_rojo: you can go watch more youtube.. or slepp :P
08:57:45 <gmann> yea hotel and flight done, waiting for visa to come though
08:57:46 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, been watching youtube for the last few minutes off and on lol
08:57:47 <mattoliverau> umm, not yet, but apparently someone from Suse is doing that as group or something sometihing
08:57:52 <mattoliverau> lol
08:57:58 <diablo_rojo> Okay that works :)
08:58:09 <diablo_rojo> Just wanted to make sure everyone got the deal if they hadn't already
08:59:04 <mattoliverau> cool, well have a great night then all
08:59:36 <diablo_rojo> Night!
08:59:40 <diablo_rojo> Thanks for coming!
08:59:43 <diablo_rojo> #endmeeting