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07:00:19 <diablo_rojo> Hello gmann mattoliverau cmurphy and tonyb :)
07:00:39 <tonyb> \o
07:00:46 <gmann> o/
07:01:38 <diablo_rojo> How's everyone's post summit been?
07:01:46 <diablo_rojo> Ready for christmas?
07:02:08 <tonyb> Ummm lets go with "yes" how's that?
07:02:34 <diablo_rojo> Sounds similar to my level of preparation
07:02:40 <gmann> my Europe trip for christmas is doubt now due to passport in Canada embassy
07:03:06 <gmann> i was planing to take 2 week off but now i might end up working
07:03:31 <diablo_rojo> gmann, oh no!
07:03:42 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: I have most gifts but there's always the oh wait Joseph as $x things under the tree and Phoebe has ${some number != x} need to rebalance
07:03:49 <tonyb> gmann: rats
07:04:04 <tonyb> gmann: tell them we vouch for you?  I'm sure that will work :D
07:04:24 <gmann> :). let's see but chance are less.
07:04:28 <diablo_rojo> gmann, yes we definitely vouch for you
07:04:36 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, you have your tree up already?
07:04:49 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: Yes
07:04:58 <diablo_rojo> Way ahead of me.
07:05:23 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: we're leaving the house on boxing day (for mattoliverau's place) so we've shifted things early to compensate
07:05:35 * diablo_rojo will give mattoliverau and cmurphy another couple minutes and then we will just get started
07:05:40 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, ahh makes sense
07:05:48 <tonyb> mattoliverau: wont be here
07:06:04 <diablo_rojo> Oh?
07:06:17 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: He's double booked
07:06:41 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, like forever or just this week?
07:06:46 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-upstream-institute/latest.log.html#t2018-12-05T05:47:09
07:06:51 <tonyb> just this week ^^
07:07:19 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, ha ha somehow managed to miss that. Thanks :)
07:08:10 <diablo_rojo> Well, lets just get the ball rolling then.
07:08:18 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: yw
07:08:37 <diablo_rojo> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Agenda for those curious
07:08:48 <diablo_rojo> #topic New Contributor Patches
07:08:59 <diablo_rojo> Anyone get their homework done?
07:09:17 <gmann> i just finished 2 review
07:09:37 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: I wrote a script to find the ones I care about .... but didn't run it
07:09:45 <gmann> other most of them are under review seems.
07:09:50 <tonyb> which doesn't really count :(
07:10:12 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, more effort than I had time to put in this week.
07:10:15 <diablo_rojo> gmann, nice!
07:10:23 <diablo_rojo> Nothing to report?
07:11:06 <gmann> not much, i found2 people doing trivial fixes which i am trying to engage them on real bug fixes etc
07:11:22 <diablo_rojo> gmann, are they any of the ones further down on the agenda?
07:11:38 <diablo_rojo> I suppose we will get there :)
07:12:26 <gmann> not there. checking if they are interested to purse the contribution at good level
07:12:42 <diablo_rojo> gmann, cool
07:12:46 <diablo_rojo> Thanks for picking that up.
07:13:16 <diablo_rojo> I'd be curious to know how that goes if you are willing to keep us posted :)
07:14:09 * tonyb too FWIW
07:14:15 <gmann> sure. honestly saying all people i tried to approach almost gone for few interaction :) but we do not give up and keep trying.
07:14:46 <gmann> i will update if we find good contributor from them
07:15:10 <diablo_rojo> gmann, we do what we can, eventually we will suck people in :)
07:15:13 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, so what was the script that you wrote?
07:16:03 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: Just grovels around in projects.yaml to get allthe repos goverened by the project teams I consider myself able to help with
07:16:33 <diablo_rojo> Oh cool :) Was just curious.
07:16:40 <tonyb> and generates a) a dashboard link and b) queries for a list of new contributor patches for me to review/help
07:17:02 <diablo_rojo> Pretty nifty.
07:17:14 * tonyb can tidy it up and publish it as a gist
07:17:18 <diablo_rojo> Anything else here? shall we move onto homework part 2?
07:17:24 <gmann> tonyb: cool.
07:17:33 <gmann> nothing else from me
07:18:13 <diablo_rojo> #topic Ask.o.o Homework
07:18:36 <tonyb> nothing from me
07:18:56 <gmann> i started answer one question but same time Ask.o.o went down. it is up now.
07:19:08 <gmann> so homework not done on this.
07:19:12 <diablo_rojo> gmann, was it down today?
07:19:23 <gmann> it is up now.
07:19:48 <diablo_rojo> Up now is good.
07:19:50 <gmann> for 5-6 min it was down i think. not sure about whole day
07:20:14 * diablo_rojo wasn't on it earlier today so I can't confirm or deny the timeframe
07:20:25 <diablo_rojo> s/I/she
07:20:47 <tonyb> gmann: That often happens around 0000 UTC as that's when backups go off and they strain the I/O subsystem
07:20:55 <tonyb> gmann: does the timing line up?
07:21:05 <diablo_rojo> TIL
07:21:27 <tonyb> for the record the same thing happens with gerrit
07:21:56 <gmann> tonyb: it was just 1 hour before, not that time.
07:22:59 <diablo_rojo> Well, I guess we should take a look now that its up again.
07:23:25 <gmann> +1. writing one answer now
07:23:26 <tonyb> gmann: Oh I may have the backup time wrong perhaps that's 0600 UTC which would line up
07:23:40 <diablo_rojo> I can give myself an action item to actually post a question or two to help seed the DB with things.
07:23:46 <diablo_rojo> Who wants to answer my questions? :)
07:23:59 <gmann> tonyb: then it is almost same time then :)
07:24:19 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: Yes you can give yourself an action item
07:24:25 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: in fact we all insist!
07:24:34 <diablo_rojo> #action diablo_rojo will post some easy questions to answer on ask.o.o before next meeting to help seed the db
07:24:38 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, done :)
07:24:49 <gmann> nice :)
07:24:52 <tonyb> gmann: Yeah it's usually 1700 or 1600 depending on DST for me
07:24:56 <tonyb> \o/
07:25:49 <diablo_rojo> Anything else on this topic? Or shall we move on?
07:25:50 <gmann> diablo_rojo: one for training team - https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/116202/training-labs-setup-stpy-b-cluster-gives-dots-for-over-24-hours/
07:26:29 <gmann> if you can help or find people to help on that.
07:26:58 <diablo_rojo> I can poke Mark on that one tomorrow
07:27:15 <gmann> thanks.
07:27:17 * tonyb backspaces over the offer to look at it
07:27:27 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, you can answer too :)
07:27:42 <diablo_rojo> No rules saying there can't be multiple responses
07:28:19 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: True
07:29:00 <diablo_rojo> gmann, anything else?
07:29:15 <gmann> nothing more.
07:29:20 <diablo_rojo> #topic Berlin Recap
07:29:42 <diablo_rojo> It was super busy. The end.
07:29:47 <diablo_rojo> Just kidding.
07:29:52 <tonyb> LOL
07:29:56 <gmann> :)
07:30:17 <diablo_rojo> So we had three sessions related or tangentially related
07:30:42 <diablo_rojo> The first one that happened (I think it happened first..its all a bit of a blur looking back now) was the meet and greet
07:30:53 <diablo_rojo> Oh wait..maybe it was second
07:30:58 <diablo_rojo> Doesn't matter.
07:31:33 <diablo_rojo> The Meet and Greet was pretty sparsely attended. It was over in Hall 7 which was WAAAAAAAAAAAAY far away from everything else.
07:31:42 <diablo_rojo> We had one or two new faces which was nice though
07:31:58 <diablo_rojo> and we played Mariokart together on my nintendo switch was a fun bonding activity
07:32:41 <tonyb> That may be the highlight of the summit!
07:33:02 <diablo_rojo> I know the OSA folks were jealous :)
07:33:24 <diablo_rojo> Another session was the one on the contributor guide operator section
07:33:29 <diablo_rojo> I think it went pretty well.
07:33:36 <diablo_rojo> Much better attended than the meet and greet
07:33:48 <diablo_rojo> Actually was surprised by the number of people in the room
07:34:08 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-Contrib-Guide-Ops Etherpad from Ops Feedback Session
07:34:24 <diablo_rojo> I think I already filed all the todo's into storyboard for the contributor guide too
07:34:40 <diablo_rojo> so if you have some time on your hands...please pick some things up from there :)
07:34:43 <gmann> did we get any volunteer from ops side for fcs
07:34:54 <diablo_rojo> What with all the idleness you both have.
07:34:59 <diablo_rojo> gmann, not really.
07:35:42 <diablo_rojo> When it was mentioned at the PTG in Denver, eric mccormick I think volunteered but I haven't followed up with him at all
07:35:52 <diablo_rojo> I suppose I can take that action item as well
07:36:02 * diablo_rojo sighs at the continually growing list of action items
07:36:34 <diablo_rojo> #action diablo_rojo to follow up on potential volunteers on ops side for FC SIG co-chair or at least involvement
07:37:33 <gmann> yeah at least we need till we have good Contributor guide for ops too
07:38:51 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I agree gmann
07:39:21 <diablo_rojo> If we can get this a little more fleshed out maybe I can get funding to go to the Ops Midcycle and evangelize about it
07:39:31 <diablo_rojo> Just a thought I can look into
07:40:13 <gmann> yeah that c\an help.
07:40:16 <gmann> can
07:40:24 <diablo_rojo> That would be great!
07:40:36 <diablo_rojo> The last session was about the contributor portal
07:40:51 <diablo_rojo> and deciding how to make it a little more navigable
07:40:55 <diablo_rojo> and less cluttered
07:41:00 <diablo_rojo> Also pretty well attended
07:41:19 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-Contrib-Portal Contrib Portal Etherpad
07:41:59 <tonyb> Oh yeah /me got an Action item from that one
07:42:45 <diablo_rojo> tonyb its got its own section of the agenda ;)
07:42:51 <diablo_rojo> after we finish this recap
07:43:32 <diablo_rojo> The tldr; on this topic was that most of the changes still need to be done by jamesmacarthur and his team since its not managed in a repo that we can make changes to at the moment
07:43:59 <diablo_rojo> I have a meeting set up with him in like two weeks so hopefully will have an update for you all for the meeting then :)
07:44:15 <diablo_rojo> Any extra questions/comments on how Berlin went?
07:44:30 <diablo_rojo> Any feedack you would like me to pass along to the events team?
07:44:54 <gmann> L24 seems interesting and useful to implement
07:45:09 * tonyb wants bbq so another Austin summit would be nice
07:45:46 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: can you pass ^^ on to the events team?
07:46:02 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, I'll pass it along :)
07:46:14 <tonyb> \o/
07:46:42 <diablo_rojo> gmann, yeah thats something we talked about at length\
07:47:08 * gmann missed all the fcs sessions this time
07:47:32 <diablo_rojo> Yeah I dont think I saw you almost at all the whole summit, but that was the case with many people.
07:47:36 <gmann> diablo_rojo: thanks for summarizing. it is good to know the key thing for me
07:47:50 <diablo_rojo> gmann, no problem :) That's why we do this.
07:48:06 <diablo_rojo> I also sent email summaries to the ML but was unable to locate the archive links in time
07:48:40 <diablo_rojo> I think I included [first contact] on both of them though?
07:48:56 <diablo_rojo> Anywho, if no one has anything else we can move on.
07:49:22 <gmann> nothing from me
07:49:35 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, ?
07:49:55 <tonyb> Yup move on
07:50:23 * tonyb assumes moving on is to the 'bot' from L28
07:50:29 <diablo_rojo> #topic Sandbox Bot
07:51:03 <diablo_rojo> So, tonyb has signed up to make this awesome bot that helps people through the process of getting code reviews/ pushing an amended patch
07:51:15 <diablo_rojo> when their first patch is to the sandbox repo at least
07:51:22 <diablo_rojo> Which sounds super awesome
07:51:30 <diablo_rojo> and we could totally make use of in OUI
07:51:37 <tonyb> It shoudl be a fun project
07:51:59 <tonyb> I need to draft up a design for discussion on the list
07:52:15 <diablo_rojo> I'm super excited about this.
07:52:20 <tonyb> and then then convince infra to create an account I can use
07:52:21 <diablo_rojo> Think its going to be awesome.
07:52:21 <gmann> tonyb: cool.
07:52:34 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, I don't think it will be a hard sell
07:52:43 <tonyb> but for now I think I'll just run it from cron on my openstack machine
07:53:32 <tonyb> basicially it will -1 a review that meets $criteria, then +2+w the next revision of that review
07:53:39 <tonyb> pretty simple really
07:54:23 * tonyb think criteria shoudl be a topic or keyword in the commit message
07:54:47 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, let us know if there is anything we can help with
07:54:56 <diablo_rojo> Yeah that seems reasonable to me
07:55:18 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: Will do
07:55:32 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: And yup we can totally use it during OUI :)
07:55:33 <diablo_rojo> Was there anything you wanted to delve into now? Or good for now?
07:55:48 <tonyb> I think I'm good for now
07:56:09 <tonyb> I think most of the hard part will be getting the right place to run it
07:56:47 <diablo_rojo> Makes sense
07:56:55 <diablo_rojo> Oh shoot we only have 4 min left
07:57:18 <diablo_rojo> #topic Reqs for contributing organisations
07:57:21 <diablo_rojo> so!
07:57:28 <diablo_rojo> The first patch landed
07:57:31 <diablo_rojo> and so did the follow up
07:57:42 <diablo_rojo> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578676/ original patch
07:57:58 <diablo_rojo> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616411 Followup
07:58:01 <tonyb> I think that's phrased 'diablo_rojo went mad with power and merged it' :D
07:58:32 <diablo_rojo> s/mad with power/anxious to make progress
07:58:37 <diablo_rojo> same difference :)
07:58:48 <tonyb> Pfft I like my wording better ;P
07:59:16 <diablo_rojo> If we think that is in a good enough state to present to the board I can see if we can get that on the agenda for whenever the next meeing is (assuming the agenda hasn't been set yet)
07:59:26 <diablo_rojo> if not, the meeting after
08:00:11 <diablo_rojo> I will also setup a meeting with Danny and Heidi our more business/sponsor facing people to walk them through it and make sure they understand/ will start including it in onboarding info for new sponsors
08:00:28 <diablo_rojo> If anyone wants to be in on that meeting, let me know
08:00:36 <tonyb> That last part sounds like an awesome idea
08:01:10 <diablo_rojo> I get those once in a while :) But I don
08:01:10 <gmann> +1
08:01:18 <diablo_rojo> don't remember if this one was fully mine
08:01:24 <diablo_rojo> probably wasn't
08:01:50 <diablo_rojo> gmann, tonyb is there anything else missing in the document or do we think its ready to present?
08:01:58 <diablo_rojo> Bah, over time..
08:02:27 <gmann> i think it is good to go for their feedback
08:02:37 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: I think it's good but I have it open to read thought one last time ... tomorrow
08:03:25 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, I can wait till tomorrow since I won't be setting up the meeting tonight anyway
08:03:46 <diablo_rojo> To anyone reading the logs, let me know if you want in on the meeting, otherwise it'll be just me :)
08:04:03 <diablo_rojo> And I thiiiink we should probably end the meeting at this point since we are over time
08:04:17 <diablo_rojo> I'll try to pick up the pace next time.,
08:04:23 <diablo_rojo> Thank you both for coming!
08:04:28 <gmann> yeah
08:04:35 <gmann> thank for chair diablo_rojo . GN
08:04:40 <tonyb> It'd help if I didn't keep dropping silly comments
08:05:21 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, just adds to the entertainment value for those reading the logs later
08:05:26 * diablo_rojo waves to those people
08:05:38 <diablo_rojo> Have a good evening gmann and tonyb!
08:05:41 <diablo_rojo> #endmeeting