07:00:41 <diablo_rojo> #startmeeting fc_sig 07:00:41 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Dec 19 07:00:41 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:00:42 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 07:00:44 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' 07:00:50 <cmurphy> morning 07:00:58 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, you made it! 07:01:01 <mattoliverau> o/ 07:01:04 <cmurphy> i made it 07:01:06 <tonyb> \o 07:01:14 <diablo_rojo> gmann, around? 07:02:19 <diablo_rojo> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Agenda 07:02:42 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, when do you head back to the US again? 07:02:57 <cmurphy> diablo_rojo: tomorrow! 07:03:17 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, woohoo! 07:04:45 <diablo_rojo> Sounds like gmann isn't going to be able to make it so I think we can get started since everyone else is here 07:05:04 <diablo_rojo> So! 07:05:14 <diablo_rojo> #topic New COntributor Patches 07:05:35 <mattoliverau> i'll admit i didnt do my homework 07:06:00 <diablo_rojo> I did.. other parts of the homework? 07:06:08 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, cmurphy do the homework? 07:06:46 * cmurphy nope :/ 07:06:50 <mattoliverau> i see a swift one from a few weeks ago i should target. but will also have a go at contacting a few more on the list tomorrow 07:07:07 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: no :( 07:07:44 <mattoliverau> sorry my typing is slow was i have a 3 month old nibbling one of my hands :) 07:07:45 <diablo_rojo> Shame on all of us. 07:07:55 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: Actually I looked but there wern't any new ones for me to help with 07:07:59 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, WE DEMAND BABY PICTURES 07:08:09 <mattoliverau> lol 07:08:30 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, looking is more than I did 07:08:44 <tonyb> \o/ 07:09:00 <diablo_rojo> Okay so it sounds like not much to report on here then. 07:09:03 <diablo_rojo> Shall I move on? 07:09:16 <cmurphy> actually there was one for keystone that i tried to help with but they never came back to address the feedback 07:10:05 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, I have found that too 07:10:19 <diablo_rojo> Seems like not many come back with updates 07:10:23 <diablo_rojo> not sure how to help with that 07:11:42 <diablo_rojo> SOmething to think on I guess. 07:11:42 <mattoliverau> for now just continue doing what we'rrrre doing. 07:11:49 <diablo_rojo> Yeah 07:11:58 <diablo_rojo> #topic Ask.o.o 07:12:14 <mattoliverau> just was: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/118015/i-want-to-get-involved-in-openstack-but-dont-know-what-i-want-to-work-on/ 07:12:23 <mattoliverau> #link https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/118015/i-want-to-get-involved-in-openstack-but-dont-know-what-i-want-to-work-on/ 07:12:45 <diablo_rojo> Lol that was one of my softball ones 07:12:48 <diablo_rojo> I posted two 07:13:02 <diablo_rojo> I love seeing that three people responded. 07:13:41 <mattoliverau> ahh nice :) 07:13:45 <mattoliverau> tricky 07:14:20 <diablo_rojo> I posted them as anonymous cause I was curious how people would respond. 07:14:31 <diablo_rojo> I figured if my name was on them they'd get ignored 07:14:38 <mattoliverau> good plan 07:15:28 * diablo_rojo tries to find link to her other question 07:15:30 <mattoliverau> There was another tagged beginner, but not really about getting involved. rather an actual question 07:15:35 * diablo_rojo should have saved the url 07:15:56 <mattoliverau> lol, or used one of the tags we watch ;) 07:16:15 <diablo_rojo> I was pretty sure I did 07:16:31 <diablo_rojo> Found it! 07:16:44 <diablo_rojo> #link https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/118013/where-can-i-find-information-about-contributing-in-ways-other-than-code/ 07:18:11 <diablo_rojo> If someone wants to add the non-code contributor guide as well that would be cool. 07:18:19 <diablo_rojo> I don't think I should answer my own question ;) 07:18:36 <cmurphy> lol 07:20:01 <diablo_rojo> someone want to take that action item? 07:20:34 <mattoliverau> If no one else will, I will 07:20:46 <tonyb> #phew! 07:20:51 <tonyb> Thanks mattoliverau :) 07:21:07 <mattoliverau> If I take an easy action item then when another comes up then I'm guilt free :P 07:21:11 <diablo_rojo> #action mattoliverau to answer https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/118013/where-can-i-find-information-about-contributing-in-ways-other-than-code/ 07:21:12 * tonyb was waiting for a full minute ;P 07:21:16 <mattoliverau> lol 07:21:16 <diablo_rojo> Lol 07:21:25 <tonyb> mattoliverau: is smart ;P 07:21:31 <diablo_rojo> Any other new questions anyone noticed? 07:21:42 <mattoliverau> nope 07:21:46 <diablo_rojo> I can try to come up with another softball question to post again.. 07:22:00 <diablo_rojo> Maybe two if I get really ambitious. 07:22:13 <diablo_rojo> Anything else on this topic? 07:22:38 <mattoliverau> great work diablo_rojo! 07:23:51 <diablo_rojo> Thanks :) 07:24:21 <diablo_rojo> Okay... moving on 07:24:33 <diablo_rojo> #topic 2018 Annual Report 07:24:58 <diablo_rojo> So! For those of you that don't know. We do these thrilling annual reports for the board/sponsors etc. 07:25:28 <mattoliverau> sounds thrilling 07:25:36 <diablo_rojo> And I had to write a section (well...many sections, but that's beside the point) for the first contact sig, being the chair. 07:26:11 <diablo_rojo> Please feast your eyes on my feat of words and englishing: 07:26:24 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2018AnnualReport_GroupsUpdate Annual Report 07:26:33 <diablo_rojo> And tell me if I missed anything or misspelled anything 07:26:40 <mattoliverau> kk 07:26:44 <diablo_rojo> Lines 39 onward atm 07:27:00 <tonyb> LGTM 07:27:19 <diablo_rojo> I covered the larger points- we now do meetings, we have more people, the project liaisons. The contributing organisation guide.. 07:27:38 <mattoliverau> from an initial quick parse looks good. but will read more carefully later :) 07:27:39 <diablo_rojo> that was the bulk of things, but if there is anything else I should call out, please let me know :) 07:28:03 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, so long as later is before EO-US-D tomorrow :) 07:28:06 <diablo_rojo> End of US Day 07:28:19 <diablo_rojo> That's when it's 'due' 07:28:21 <mattoliverau> kk 07:28:21 <tonyb> certainly better than the lame one from the EM SIG 07:29:11 <diablo_rojo> And the writer of that one even uses the Queen's English on a regular basis ;) 07:29:45 <diablo_rojo> I think that's all I had for this topic. 07:29:51 <diablo_rojo> Shall we press on? 07:30:06 <mattoliverau> press on 07:30:10 <diablo_rojo> #topic Sanbox Bot 07:30:15 * diablo_rojo looks at tonyb 07:30:24 <tonyb> he left 07:30:46 <diablo_rojo> should have changed nick's before saying that 07:30:59 <tonyb> Umm nothing to report really I still need to send the rationale and design to the list 07:31:15 * tonyb will do that on Friday (pinky promise) 07:31:19 <diablo_rojo> Anything we can do to help with that? 07:31:26 <diablo_rojo> Or just leave you alone? :) 07:31:51 <diablo_rojo> Alright, sounds like we can move on then. 07:32:10 <tonyb> Not a lot to do right now, but pile on the design discussion when it happens 07:32:25 <diablo_rojo> Can do. 07:32:35 <diablo_rojo> Will keep an eye out for that on the discussion ML 07:32:56 <diablo_rojo> #topic Reqs for Organisations Contributing to OpenStack 07:33:00 <tonyb> I'll post a URL in the other channel when it hits the archive 07:33:08 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, sounds good 07:33:25 <diablo_rojo> So! thanks again mattoliverau for taking on writing all of that up 07:33:31 <diablo_rojo> and dealing with all the comments 07:33:41 <diablo_rojo> and doing the follow ups super quickly 07:33:58 <mattoliverau> nps. though to he honest, I've lost track of it lately. 07:34:14 <mattoliverau> I really need to refamilarise myself with it. 07:34:27 <diablo_rojo> I passed the document onto the Business Development team (particularly Danny who onboards new sponsors). So he will start including that info in emails he sends out. 07:34:42 <mattoliverau> that's what happens when you miss a PTG and Summit 07:34:45 <mattoliverau> nice 07:34:53 <diablo_rojo> I still need to ping Heidi about it, but I might wait till the new year since everything has slowed downn a bunch. 07:35:03 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, yeah, maybe you should stop doing that ;) 07:35:21 <mattoliverau> don't worry, no more kids for me :) 07:35:32 <diablo_rojo> Lol\ 07:36:07 <diablo_rojo> Still need to present the docs to the board, but I was going to wait till the board of directors individual election concludes so we can get all the new people on the same page 07:36:20 * diablo_rojo doesn't remember when that is happening off the top of her head 07:36:40 <mattoliverau> makes sense 07:36:42 <tonyb> mid-late Jan IIRC 07:36:57 <diablo_rojo> Yeah that sounds right. 07:37:07 <diablo_rojo> So as soon as that thing happens, I will get on the agenda 07:37:19 <tonyb> #link https://www.openstack.org/election/2019-individual-director-election/ 07:37:22 <diablo_rojo> I know nominations are going on right now. 07:37:36 <mattoliverau> in the meantime, I'll try and catch up with everything I missed. 07:38:00 <diablo_rojo> Oh so nominations are done. 07:38:54 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, sounds good, you have plenty of time :) 07:39:00 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: yeah looks like it 07:39:03 <diablo_rojo> Anything else on this topic? 07:39:44 <mattoliverau> nope 07:40:29 <diablo_rojo> Alright. Last one! 07:40:37 <diablo_rojo> #topic People to Reach out to 07:40:54 * diablo_rojo knows someone volunteered to talk to these people but can't remember who it was 07:41:01 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau? cmurphy? 07:42:42 <cmurphy> I had volunteered for one, not all 07:42:47 <diablo_rojo> (18 min left) 07:42:55 <mattoliverau> can't remember, probably me, though I do remember someone saying they might have a contact or something on the inside (or we needed to find one). That was pre 2nd baby so my brain is pretty fried :P 07:43:24 <mattoliverau> oh yeah I was going to contact inspur or something 07:43:34 <diablo_rojo> yeah that all sounds right 07:43:40 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, did you talk to the person? 07:43:46 * diablo_rojo thinks yes 07:43:52 <cmurphy> I emailed them but they didn't respond 07:43:59 <diablo_rojo> Ah yes. 07:44:03 <cmurphy> and i continue to see the same types of changes from them 07:44:08 <diablo_rojo> Booo 07:44:09 <mattoliverau> :( 07:44:21 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, did you want to try again? Or want someone else to try? 07:44:50 <cmurphy> i'd be interested to see if someone else has better luck/a better approach 07:45:07 <mattoliverau> which one did you email? 07:45:22 <cmurphy> melissaml 07:45:48 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, you wanna give it a try? 07:45:50 <diablo_rojo> tonyb? 07:46:13 <tonyb> Sure I can try 07:46:15 * diablo_rojo envisions tonyb waiting for the minute to pass before agreeing 07:46:18 <diablo_rojo> Oh cool :) 07:46:24 <diablo_rojo> Thank you :) 07:46:33 <mattoliverau> lol, yeah, I was waiting 1 minute and 1 second :P 07:46:42 <tonyb> Which one shoudl I try first? 07:47:10 <tonyb> mattoliverau: good plan. 07:47:35 <diablo_rojo> Go for melissaml who isn't on the list in the agenda actually 07:47:49 <tonyb> Okay 07:48:12 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, did you still want to find an inspur person? 07:48:31 <mattoliverau> sure 07:48:46 <mattoliverau> I'll try contacting the dev directly first. 07:48:55 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, cool, sounds good to me 07:49:18 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, like...all the rest of them on the agenda? 07:49:34 * diablo_rojo can't remember if they are all from inspur 07:50:02 <mattoliverau> nah, inspur 99cloud and 163.com 07:50:51 <tonyb> I think the last 2 domains are basically the just mail hosts like @gmail.com 07:51:05 <diablo_rojo> Okay so the 99cloud and 163 ones are up for grabs 07:51:06 <diablo_rojo> yeah 07:52:08 <diablo_rojo> (8 min left) 07:52:23 <diablo_rojo> I can take them if no one wants to volunteer 07:53:08 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: amybe leave them for next year ? 07:53:42 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, yeah even if I took them, I wouldn't send anything till the first week of January probably 07:54:22 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: fair 07:55:02 <diablo_rojo> I can take the todos to talk to the last three(?) but I wont email them till the new year 07:56:04 <diablo_rojo> Okay so I think that does it for the agenda 07:56:12 <mattoliverau> up to you, tonyb and myself could give our peeps a go. and report back next meeting, next year. 07:56:12 <diablo_rojo> #topic Open Discussion 07:56:21 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, that sounds good too 07:56:47 <diablo_rojo> So our next scheduled meeting is January 1st.. 07:56:56 <diablo_rojo> Do we want to keep it? Or cancel that? 07:56:59 <mattoliverau> Maybe skip that one? 07:57:13 * cmurphy would not make that one 07:57:19 <diablo_rojo> Up to you all. I was maybe going to work that day so it makes no difference to me :) 07:57:26 <diablo_rojo> Sounds like two votes to cancel 07:57:51 <mattoliverau> I'll be at a holiday house on philip island, so probably wouldn't make it.. however, with my in-laws so maybe I would :P 07:57:53 <tonyb> cancel 07:58:01 <mattoliverau> but seriously, yeah cancel 07:58:03 <diablo_rojo> LOL 07:58:15 <diablo_rojo> Yeah okay. I'll send an email to the discuss list tomorrow 07:59:19 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, we should hang out while you are in the US and only 3 hours away 07:59:20 <mattoliverau> 1 more minute 08:00:02 <diablo_rojo> Anyone got anything else? 08:00:18 <mattoliverau> nope 08:00:34 <tonyb> not from me 08:00:42 <cmurphy> diablo_rojo: :D 08:01:07 <diablo_rojo> Have a good rest of 2018 everyone! 08:01:16 <mattoliverau> you too!!!! 08:01:18 <tonyb> \o/ 08:01:57 <diablo_rojo> Thanks everyone! 08:02:03 <diablo_rojo> #endmeeting