01:00:03 <diablo_rojo> #startmeeting fc_sig 01:00:04 <openstack> Meeting started Wed Jul 31 01:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is diablo_rojo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:05 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 01:00:07 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' 01:00:25 <diablo_rojo> gmann, tonyb mattoliverau cmurphy Hello :) 01:00:28 <gmann> o/ 01:00:28 <mattoliverau> o/ 01:00:29 <cmurphy> o/ 01:00:39 <diablo_rojo> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/First_Contact_SIG#Meeting_Agenda Agenda for your perusal 01:01:01 <diablo_rojo> Hello everyone :) 01:01:05 <diablo_rojo> How's everyone doing? 01:01:47 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: Ummm that's a complex question so I'll just go with "good" ;P 01:02:01 <gmann> doing good. how are you ? 01:02:18 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, I would have a similar answer but the summation would come to..."okay?" 01:02:33 <diablo_rojo> gmann, been better, been worse 01:02:38 <mattoliverau> I'm ok 01:04:02 <diablo_rojo> I guess if we have everyone, we can get started. 01:04:02 <diablo_rojo> #topic New Contributor Patches 01:04:33 <mattoliverau> I had a skim through them, ignoring sandbox ones, most already had some kind of review 01:04:59 <gmann> just finished 2 review on new one. 01:05:01 <mattoliverau> I did comment on a tripleo-common one just to point the person to the stable backport instructions 01:05:12 <gmann> our query seems including sandbox patches also.. 01:05:19 <mattoliverau> gmann: nice 01:05:34 <tonyb> gmann: there is one excluding it 01:05:42 <tonyb> I thought it was on the wiki 01:05:55 <gmann> yeah name space to opendev/sandbox 01:05:56 <gmann> https://review.opendev.org/#/q/reviewedby:%22Welcome%252C+new+contributor!+(10068)%22+is:open+-project:+opendev/sandbox+AND+-project:opendev/ci-sandbox 01:05:59 <gmann> i will update on wiki 01:06:19 <mattoliverau> oh that'll be why, of course 01:06:33 <diablo_rojo> ...I definitely didn't do the homework, but it sounds like I didn't need to so thats cool. 01:06:44 <diablo_rojo> gmann, thanks! 01:06:44 <tonyb> gmann: Ahh okay 01:07:20 <gmann> done 01:07:50 <fungi> yep, it was considered a general opendev resource, and not a part of openstack 01:07:58 <fungi> so made more sense there 01:08:03 <diablo_rojo> Ohh okay. 01:08:18 <diablo_rojo> Should be all good now then. 01:08:29 <diablo_rojo> Anything else on this topic? 01:08:38 <mattoliverau> nope 01:08:42 <diablo_rojo> Next! 01:08:52 <diablo_rojo> #topic ask.o.o 01:09:09 <diablo_rojo> Anyone? 01:09:12 <mattoliverau> I didn't see anything new, new contributor wise 01:09:33 <gmann> yeah, seems no new query there. 01:10:13 <mattoliverau> So that was a quick topic :) 01:10:47 <fungi> the best kind 01:10:59 <diablo_rojo> ...I can probably ask another question for next time 01:11:06 <diablo_rojo> I should have made this a competition. 01:11:12 <diablo_rojo> A beer for each response. 01:11:24 <mattoliverau> lol 01:12:23 <diablo_rojo> Anywho. Next topic! 01:12:32 <diablo_rojo> #topic Sandbox bot 01:13:43 * diablo_rojo looks at tonyb and wonders if this will also be a quick topic 01:14:00 <tonyb> quick as it's 'no update' 01:14:56 <mattoliverau> yup, that'll make it a quick one :) 01:15:32 <diablo_rojo> Fair. I know you are super busy with lots of other stuff :) 01:15:53 <diablo_rojo> #topic Summit + Forum Planning 01:16:21 <diablo_rojo> So.. I've been asked by the foundation to fill out a survey with details of our attendance/non-attendance at the PTG 01:17:18 <diablo_rojo> (this is funny phrasing because I sent the email but its how everyone else presented this topic) 01:17:20 <mattoliverau> I'm still waiting to hear yay or nay 01:17:28 <cmurphy> diablo_rojo: lol 01:18:13 <gmann> i will be there (but visa is yet to apply). 01:18:18 <diablo_rojo> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/shanghai-forum-fc-sig-brainstorming Etherpad 01:18:37 <diablo_rojo> If you think you might go or are going please add your names to the etherpad 01:19:39 <cmurphy> is that supposed to be an empty etherpad? 01:19:49 <diablo_rojo> It is empty currently 01:19:52 <diablo_rojo> I created it.. 01:19:56 <diablo_rojo> but had not set it up yet 01:20:34 <cmurphy> lol wasn't sure if i accidentally clicked the wrong link and started another one 01:21:10 * fungi stops scratching his head too 01:21:26 <gmann> updated. 01:21:39 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, nope I was just lazy/busy 01:22:30 <diablo_rojo> Do we think there will be forum sessions we will want? I feel like that will affect how much time we will want to request at the PTG 01:22:48 <diablo_rojo> I'd say a max of 1/2 day..min of 1/4 day? 01:23:43 <mattoliverau> Well attempting to take advanatage of the chinese devs would be good. 01:24:07 <mattoliverau> Still 1/4 a day might be enough though 01:24:25 <mattoliverau> I guess we need to think of some topics, and then from there. 01:24:51 <gmann> one thing we want for sure is to meet more people from china (especially doing random contribution) and encourage them for contributing in particular area. help/guide/motivate/be-friendly with them 01:25:26 <mattoliverau> we could try another meet and great and hope it doesn't coinside with another into talk :P 01:25:36 <mattoliverau> *intro 01:26:49 <fungi> the folks doing random contribution (from china or anywhere) seem like they would be hard to herd into a particular session 01:27:05 <mattoliverau> that's true 01:27:11 <fungi> ideas on how to get them into the room are necessary 01:28:26 <diablo_rojo> Thankfully we have some time to brainstorm on that one. 01:28:59 <gmann> yeah, may be we need to take help from more local developers or Horace ? 01:29:34 <diablo_rojo> Both? 01:29:53 <gmann> yeah 01:30:42 <diablo_rojo> I think it would be good to write up a list of like.. new contributor things and get Horace to write a weechat article about them before the event 01:33:03 <cmurphy> *wechat 01:33:05 <diablo_rojo> Anything else on this topic for now? 01:33:06 <mattoliverau> Cool, so let's try and get some topics and ideas written down (even just brainstormed) in the etherpad for next week. And go from there? 01:33:13 <diablo_rojo> cmurphy, lol thank you 01:33:16 <mattoliverau> *next meeting 01:33:26 <gmann> +1 01:33:33 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, sounds good to me 01:33:53 <mattoliverau> from there we might be able to determine how much time we have and we can start getting help to target the locals 01:34:15 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, +2 01:34:26 <diablo_rojo> I think I can talk the foundation into giving me an extension on the form ;) 01:35:01 <mattoliverau> when in doubt go for a 1/2 day and we could spend the rest chatting ;) 01:35:13 <diablo_rojo> Works for me :) 01:35:19 <diablo_rojo> Next topic then! 01:35:32 <diablo_rojo> #topic Project Liaisons 01:35:34 <gmann> I feel it will be good for PTG discussions where more developers are supposed to be there 01:35:57 <diablo_rojo> I think mattoliverau had a todo here? 01:36:15 <mattoliverau> OK, so I send out the email just before that last meeting 01:36:38 <mattoliverau> I went to take a look at the liasion list history 01:37:16 <mattoliverau> good news is the email didn't totally fall of dead ears. I saw a change from monasca. 01:37:21 <diablo_rojo> Oh nice. 01:37:24 <diablo_rojo> Thats cool. 01:37:28 <mattoliverau> So they've updated their details. 01:37:34 <mattoliverau> but that's about it :( 01:37:43 <cmurphy> keystone is up to date :P 01:37:44 <diablo_rojo> I would think a few more would have changed, but oh well. 01:38:00 <mattoliverau> So emails work well. Though to be fair some are up to date and correct. 01:38:07 <mattoliverau> lol yeah like keystone ;) 01:38:28 <mattoliverau> I was more hoping those that didn't have a timezone set would be as a good indicator. 01:38:34 <diablo_rojo> After the next election we should probably do an audit to make sure the ptls match and those that don't match are still valid liaisons 01:39:08 <mattoliverau> yeah, not sure really where to go from here.. maybe double check that current PTLs are in the list, especially for those that haven't changed in a while 01:39:22 <mattoliverau> diablo_rojo: snap 01:39:52 <diablo_rojo> Lol great minds? 01:39:58 <diablo_rojo> Or something like that.. 01:40:27 <mattoliverau> What's the saying, "great minds think alike and fool never differ" or something like that :P 01:40:28 <diablo_rojo> I suppose this can get taken off the agenda for now then? 01:40:42 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, yeah something like that 01:41:03 <diablo_rojo> Anything else here then? 01:41:40 <mattoliverau> Not really, if I remember I'll try and go thourgh the non timezone ones and maybe update those with PTLs? though maybe waiting for the next eletion will be good enough 01:41:57 <mattoliverau> let's move on :) 01:42:05 <diablo_rojo> #topic People to Reach Out To 01:42:26 <diablo_rojo> I think this kinda goes along with what we want to do at the summit/forum/ptg 01:42:47 <mattoliverau> I think we should refocus this "reaching" out with preparing on how to reachout at the summit/ptg? 01:43:00 <diablo_rojo> +2 01:43:15 <diablo_rojo> Basically what I was trying to communicate..badly 01:43:38 * diablo_rojo will rejigger the agenda to reflect that for next time 01:44:00 <mattoliverau> the PTL is a rare oppertunity, so we should try and make the most of that.. we can fall back to the spreadsheet anytime ;) 01:44:06 <mattoliverau> *PTG 01:44:12 <mattoliverau> sigh, I can't type today 01:45:09 <gmann> yeah, this event is best opportunity for us to talk to them in more motinational way. 01:45:19 <gmann> motivational 01:46:03 <diablo_rojo> +2 01:46:10 <diablo_rojo> To both sentiments 01:46:35 <diablo_rojo> Anything else on this for now? Or should we wait till we get the PTG stuff a little more fleshed out? 01:47:28 <mattoliverau> Let's flush PTG stuff out, also use the etherpad for topic ideas _and_ reaching out brainstorming :) 01:47:51 <mattoliverau> So there is a place we can do this asynchronously as well 01:48:01 <diablo_rojo> Works for me 01:48:16 <diablo_rojo> #topic Open Discussion 01:48:54 <diablo_rojo> Got anything else to discuss? 01:49:08 <mattoliverau> not I 01:49:17 <fungi> nada 01:49:37 <gmann> nothing from me 01:49:47 <diablo_rojo> tonyb? 01:50:21 <tonyb> nope 01:50:31 <cmurphy> nope 01:50:38 <tonyb> I'll read the logs my other meeting took all my attention really :/ 01:50:43 <diablo_rojo> Well then, have a good couple weeks everyone :) 01:50:56 <diablo_rojo> tonyb, most topics were punted till next meeting 01:51:02 <diablo_rojo> So you didn't miss much. 01:51:16 <mattoliverau> And don't forget to brainstorm when that awesome idea comes to y'all ;) 01:51:22 <diablo_rojo> Fill out the PTG/Forum Etherpad in your spare time 01:51:32 <diablo_rojo> mattoliverau, all that great minds stuff again :P 01:51:37 <mattoliverau> :) 01:52:22 <tonyb> diablo_rojo: okay 01:52:33 <diablo_rojo> Thanks everyone! 01:52:36 <diablo_rojo> #endmeeting