14:03:41 #startmeeting freezer 14:03:41 Meeting started Thu Jan 19 14:03:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slashme. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:03:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:03:45 The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' 14:03:56 Hello everyone :-) 14:04:10 hey slashme, hey everyone :) 14:04:11 Hello everyone 14:06:20 As usual, you can find the meeting notes and agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings 14:07:43 hello everyone 14:10:16 #topic pike_ptl 14:10:46 As most of you know, I won't be running for PTL for the Pike cycle 14:11:27 I posted an email in the mailing list to announce that, but I'd like to take a minute to thank all of you 14:12:01 Thanks for contributing to Freezer :-) 14:12:13 thank you slashme 14:12:15 I would like to apply to be the Pike PTL that would be a great chance for me to contribute do more with freezer 14:12:18 Thanks slashme 14:12:20 slashme, thank you for your work :) 14:12:37 I think that's a great idea. szaher 14:13:03 thank you too, slashme :) as for me you payed enough attention to all the things I asked to take a look, so thanks for that :) 14:13:06 It would be a great chance for me to work closely with the existing great team to keep freezer moving forward and add more features 14:13:29 Also, I would like to nominate raliev to a position in the core team. 14:13:44 +1 14:13:53 +1 14:14:00 +1 14:14:32 We have the policy of waiting for a developper to contribute one big feature before adding them. As soon as this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409796/ gets merge, you qualify. 14:14:35 slashme, guys - thank you a lot! This is a great honor for me :) 14:14:44 I'm sure other will follow soon :-) 14:15:15 I'll send the email later today or tomorrow. Please check your inbox and +1 on the mailing list as usual. 14:15:55 I guess that's it for the administrative part 14:16:04 #topic Optimize freezer-web-ui 14:16:06 slashme raliev I will be testing this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409796/ very soon to get it merged 14:16:20 I am testing it as well at the moment 14:16:38 Optimize freezer-web-ui (Solicitation bug): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421634 14:17:43 slashme, szaher_ okay, if you have any questions or comments - I'll reply 14:18:15 Thanks raliev 14:18:33 szaher_: slashme 14:18:33 #topic Pending Reviews: 14:18:45 I updated the list here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings 14:19:01 please review this patch about the client register https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421634 14:19:59 Patch in the "Small" list should be quick to review. Please take some time to review some of the patch in the "Big" list, they are the one needing more attention. 14:20:00 yangyapeng ? 14:20:25 Sorry, i forget it . that client register could register have more clinet_id in a host name 14:22:03 szaher_: why is it that register more one client_id in a hostname 14:22:33 szaher_: if we should have a limit 14:23:18 The client registration uses the hostname as client id 14:23:44 We want to change that at some point: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/better-client-id 14:25:11 slashme: szaher_ now, freezerclient freezer client-register can register more one client 14:26:27 slashme: oh, i see the spec, it is better 14:28:48 We need to change mechanism of registering clients (schedulers) according to the bp 14:29:45 I could be nice if we can manage the clients from freezer-api, like allowing clients to register jobs or not, what kind of jobs this client can do and stuff like that 14:30:14 that might be useful for admins to manage their backups and clients from a centralized point of view 14:30:23 yep and we should track what clients are available for the moment 14:30:41 raliev: +1 14:30:52 if we have a hostname in a conf, as a same as nova-compute 14:31:02 This is planned in the blueprint with last_poll_date 14:32:31 so, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422349/ this patch could need more a change in the future 14:36:23 Yes it might require some change. 14:36:28 #topic free 14:36:42 Anything else that you want to discuss ? 14:36:54 yep 14:37:21 there's a blueprint for freezer-dr https://blueprints.launchpad.net/freezer/+spec/quasi-live-vm-backup 14:38:27 I was looking into freezer-dr tool and wonder why this strange quasi-live backup was chosen instead of using normal live migration 14:38:49 or probably I'm missing something and these are 2 different features which can exist on the same time 14:38:54 i think szaher_ should have a good idea 14:39:04 hello Allen_ 14:39:10 ping Allen_ 14:39:12 so, what was the original purpose of quasi live backup thing 14:40:16 In freezer-dr, we use evacuation instead of migration (same thing in the end) 14:40:38 As far as I know. We never implemented that blueprint. It is very very old 14:41:15 evacuate --on-share-storage 14:41:16 ok, what about using live migration? Did we have such plans? Judging by documentation we has 14:41:28 but do we have them now? 14:42:14 because in https://github.com/openstack/freezer-dr/blob/master/README.rst you can find 14:42:35 Any evacuation driver (currently supports evacuate api call, may be migrate ??) 14:43:41 Yes, I guess we could implement an evacuate driver. 14:43:56 szaher ? Any comment on that ? 14:44:09 as far as I know there's already implementation of evacuate driver 14:44:56 the question is - is there any reason we use live migration as an alternative for that purposes? there are customers which are interested in it 14:45:22 is there any reason we can't use live migration 14:45:29 sorry, misspeled 14:46:40 live-migration api must be nova-compute is up and enable 14:47:20 evacuation is meant to be used when the compute node is down. Live migration is meant to be used when the compute node is up. These are two different usecase 14:47:45 yes, you're right 14:48:28 :) 14:48:29 then I'm gonna propose blueprint for being able use live migration in case compute node is up 14:48:44 don't you mind? 14:50:01 dstepanenko: but ,if nova-compute is up, what is freezer-dr a role? 14:52:55 I think there are use cases when node is alive, but there are some issues on it 14:53:16 so, it's allowed to do live migration but it's not in a good shape 14:53:36 because of some of it's services which are not relevant to live migration ability 14:53:41 does it make sense? 14:54:00 It makes sense 14:54:12 I did not think about this usecase 14:58:38 Okay. We are running out of time. 14:58:54 Thank you all for your participation :-) 14:59:01 #endmeeting