14:00:49 <szaher> #startmeeting freezer
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14:01:07 <szaher> Hello Guys
14:01:20 <szaher> Let's wait 5 minutes for everyone to join the meeting
14:01:58 <raliev> hey
14:02:14 <szaher> ping raliev vnogin jiaopengju jiaopengju02 zengchen zigo
14:02:24 <szaher> Hi raliev
14:02:34 <jiaopengju> hi szaher
14:02:46 <szaher> Hi jiaopengju :)
14:03:07 <szaher> Please take a look at today's agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings
14:03:09 <jiaopengju> szaher: long time no see :)
14:03:50 <szaher> jiaopengju: Yea, You remember I did an operation and I had some issues with it afterwards till now :)
14:07:45 <jiaopengju> szaher: Take care of yourself. I did an operation three months ago, and now I’m ok to work.
14:09:20 <raliev> get better, szaher
14:11:04 <vnogin> hi guys, sorry, I'm here )
14:11:19 <jiaopengju> hi vnogin
14:12:04 <vnogin> do we have any agenda for today? :)
14:12:37 <jiaopengju> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings
14:13:06 <vnogin> jiaopengju: hi, thx )
14:13:16 <jiaopengju> vnogin: :)
14:15:10 <szaher> Let's start ?
14:15:40 <jiaopengju> ok
14:16:28 <szaher> #topic Freezer's future
14:17:16 <szaher> Guys, what do we need to do next in Freezer ?
14:17:24 <szaher> raliev ?
14:17:26 <szaher> vnogin ?
14:17:34 <szaher> jiaopengju ?
14:18:25 <vnogin> szaher: VM auto-healing for instance
14:18:39 <szaher> vnogin: Hey :)
14:18:44 <vnogin> szaher: hey )
14:18:57 <szaher> vnogin: You mean HA for VMs ?
14:19:07 <jiaopengju> szaher: IMO, tenant backup need to be improved, to support cinder volumes etc
14:19:08 <vnogin> szaher: yep
14:19:34 <vnogin> szaher: also we need full ceph support
14:19:40 <szaher> Ok... here we have two scopes in freezer, first backups second dr
14:19:49 <raliev> refactor current unit and functional tests
14:20:35 <vnogin> and we need some kind of unified installer
14:20:44 <vnogin> also we need packages
14:20:52 <vnogin> at least deb
14:22:01 <jiaopengju> strengthen tests on freezer-scheduler or freezer-api
14:22:48 <szaher> for backups may be we can have the following:
14:22:48 <szaher> 1. Tenant backups improvements
14:22:48 <szaher> 2. Deduplication ?
14:22:48 <szaher> 3. Engines Speed ?
14:22:49 <szaher> 4. Mulitple storages
14:22:49 <szaher> 5. Remote backups
14:22:49 <szaher> 6. Deprecate CLI and make it only working with job files
14:22:49 <szaher> 7. Enhance the UI
14:22:50 <szaher> 8. Multi-tenancy improvements
14:22:50 <szaher> 9. Improve UI
14:22:50 <szaher> 10. Increase tests and improve it
14:22:51 <szaher> 11. Integration with other projects
14:23:19 <szaher> 12. More modes/apps, engines and storages
14:23:48 <szaher> 13. Provide a solid instructions to develop new ones and to integrate with freezer
14:23:53 <szaher> 14. Docs
14:24:24 <vnogin> 14 - should be first priority issue
14:25:33 <raliev> I vote for 1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14
14:25:40 <szaher> for DR:
14:25:40 <szaher> 1. VM auto-healing or vm dr
14:25:40 <szaher> 2. DC dr ?
14:25:41 <szaher> 3. more evacuation techniques as there are some hardware modules that might break the migration and live migration
14:25:41 <szaher> 4. API to schedule and coordinate dr jobs
14:25:41 <szaher> 5. develop some scenarios that we need to cover
14:26:42 <szaher> 6. Application DR ? ( ability to heal a whole application )
14:27:03 <vnogin> backups: 4, 7, 11, 14
14:27:23 <vnogin> dr: 1,2,3
14:27:25 <szaher> in number 6 I mean if we have 1 web instance and 1 db instance (the dr should take care of both as one entity move them together)
14:27:58 <szaher> jiaopengju: ?
14:28:48 <jiaopengju> backups 1 4 10 14 3
14:28:49 <raliev> dr 1,3,4
14:28:55 <szaher> vnogin raliev hopefully we can discuss this in the PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer-ptg-queens ?
14:29:04 <vnogin> szaher: sure
14:29:09 <raliev> szaher, yep
14:29:35 <jiaopengju> dr 1 4
14:30:44 <szaher> Good, so we can have a deep discussion in the PTG around these items and what should be done first and how can we move on
14:30:59 <jiaopengju> szaher: for dr 6, we may consider too much on the features of different applications
14:31:45 <vnogin> jiaopengju: are you going to visit PTG?
14:32:01 <szaher> jiaopengju: The idea is to provide a way to have the user specifying this him/herself
14:32:01 <jiaopengju> vnogin: I have no plan
14:32:07 <vnogin> jiaopengju: ok :(
14:32:19 <jiaopengju> szaher: get it
14:33:10 <jiaopengju> vnogin: I'm using crutches now
14:33:47 <szaher> jiaopengju: ouch! sorry to hear that
14:33:57 <jiaopengju> vnogin: so I can not go anywhere far away
14:33:57 <szaher> jiaopengju: Hope everything is Ok with you
14:34:06 <vnogin> jiaopengju: ah, I see :( hope everything is ok
14:34:16 <jiaopengju> szaher vnogin: Thanks
14:34:27 <jiaopengju> szaher: The same to you
14:34:38 <szaher> jiaopengju: Thanks :)
14:34:43 <szaher> Move on ??
14:34:47 <vnogin> +
14:34:47 <jiaopengju> ok
14:34:51 <raliev> +
14:35:11 <szaher> #topic Availability of people
14:35:36 <szaher> Guys, what's your availability in Freezer ?
14:36:39 <vnogin> szaher: pretty sad to say it however Mirantis doesn't invest so many resources in upstream as it for before
14:37:14 <vnogin> szaher: currently my guys focused on our downstream
14:38:11 <raliev> but periodically I can spend some time on freezer issues
14:38:12 <vnogin> so it seems for the near future we can contribute only during our free time :(
14:38:32 <jiaopengju> szaher: I’m focused on data protection and backup, so I will have time to do the dev or test of freezer
14:39:01 <vnogin> szaher: however, I want to propose freezer to our product managment
14:39:29 <vnogin> szaher: I want to discuss it with you on PTG
14:39:50 <szaher> vnogin: well, not that much difference here
14:39:56 <szaher> jiaopengju: That's great
14:40:14 <szaher> vnogin: I'm trying to work on it on my free time
14:40:37 <vnogin> szaher: I know... the same for Intel, ericsson and rackspace :(
14:40:45 <szaher> vnogin: better if we can talk about how can we keep it moving
14:40:52 <vnogin> szaher: yep
14:40:52 <szaher> jiaopengju: we will keep you posted :)
14:41:15 <jiaopengju> szaher: :)
14:41:43 <szaher> move on ?
14:41:54 <vnogin> +
14:41:55 <raliev> yep
14:41:58 <jiaopengju> +
14:42:05 <szaher> #topic Queens PTG
14:42:38 <vnogin> I'll be there :)
14:42:41 <szaher> We will be using this etherpad  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer-ptg-queens for topics and decissions to be made in the PTG
14:42:55 <szaher> vnogin: That great :)
14:43:09 <szaher> vnogin: hopefully me too :)
14:44:10 <szaher> so guys we will discuss everything in more details in the PTG
14:44:12 <vnogin> szaher: hope so :)
14:44:20 <szaher> for the time being anyone would like to add anything ?
14:45:21 <vnogin> szaher: I think we can add few item during ptg
14:45:41 <raliev> +1
14:46:00 <szaher> vnogin: np :)
14:47:16 <szaher> anything else ?
14:47:25 <jiaopengju> this patch need review :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499475/
14:47:47 <vnogin> jiaopengju: will do it
14:47:49 <jiaopengju> or we can cherry pick it to pike
14:48:03 <jiaopengju> vnogin: thanks
14:48:15 <szaher> jiaopengju: Done
14:48:43 <vnogin> jiaopengju: done
14:49:08 <jiaopengju> thank you szaher vnogin
14:49:43 <szaher> Thanks Guys
14:50:24 <vnogin> thanks guys :)
14:50:43 <szaher> #endmeeting