14:00:49 <szaher> #startmeeting freezer 14:00:51 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 31 14:00:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:52 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:54 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' 14:01:07 <szaher> Hello Guys 14:01:20 <szaher> Let's wait 5 minutes for everyone to join the meeting 14:01:58 <raliev> hey 14:02:14 <szaher> ping raliev vnogin jiaopengju jiaopengju02 zengchen zigo 14:02:24 <szaher> Hi raliev 14:02:34 <jiaopengju> hi szaher 14:02:46 <szaher> Hi jiaopengju :) 14:03:07 <szaher> Please take a look at today's agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings 14:03:09 <jiaopengju> szaher: long time no see :) 14:03:50 <szaher> jiaopengju: Yea, You remember I did an operation and I had some issues with it afterwards till now :) 14:07:45 <jiaopengju> szaher: Take care of yourself. I did an operation three months ago, and now I’m ok to work. 14:09:20 <raliev> get better, szaher 14:11:04 <vnogin> hi guys, sorry, I'm here ) 14:11:19 <jiaopengju> hi vnogin 14:12:04 <vnogin> do we have any agenda for today? :) 14:12:37 <jiaopengju> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings 14:13:06 <vnogin> jiaopengju: hi, thx ) 14:13:16 <jiaopengju> vnogin: :) 14:15:10 <szaher> Let's start ? 14:15:40 <jiaopengju> ok 14:16:28 <szaher> #topic Freezer's future 14:17:16 <szaher> Guys, what do we need to do next in Freezer ? 14:17:24 <szaher> raliev ? 14:17:26 <szaher> vnogin ? 14:17:34 <szaher> jiaopengju ? 14:18:25 <vnogin> szaher: VM auto-healing for instance 14:18:39 <szaher> vnogin: Hey :) 14:18:44 <vnogin> szaher: hey ) 14:18:57 <szaher> vnogin: You mean HA for VMs ? 14:19:07 <jiaopengju> szaher: IMO, tenant backup need to be improved, to support cinder volumes etc 14:19:08 <vnogin> szaher: yep 14:19:34 <vnogin> szaher: also we need full ceph support 14:19:40 <szaher> Ok... here we have two scopes in freezer, first backups second dr 14:19:49 <raliev> refactor current unit and functional tests 14:20:35 <vnogin> and we need some kind of unified installer 14:20:44 <vnogin> also we need packages 14:20:52 <vnogin> at least deb 14:22:01 <jiaopengju> strengthen tests on freezer-scheduler or freezer-api 14:22:48 <szaher> for backups may be we can have the following: 14:22:48 <szaher> 1. Tenant backups improvements 14:22:48 <szaher> 2. Deduplication ? 14:22:48 <szaher> 3. Engines Speed ? 14:22:49 <szaher> 4. Mulitple storages 14:22:49 <szaher> 5. Remote backups 14:22:49 <szaher> 6. Deprecate CLI and make it only working with job files 14:22:49 <szaher> 7. Enhance the UI 14:22:50 <szaher> 8. Multi-tenancy improvements 14:22:50 <szaher> 9. Improve UI 14:22:50 <szaher> 10. Increase tests and improve it 14:22:51 <szaher> 11. Integration with other projects 14:23:19 <szaher> 12. More modes/apps, engines and storages 14:23:48 <szaher> 13. Provide a solid instructions to develop new ones and to integrate with freezer 14:23:53 <szaher> 14. Docs 14:24:24 <vnogin> 14 - should be first priority issue 14:25:33 <raliev> I vote for 1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14 14:25:40 <szaher> for DR: 14:25:40 <szaher> 1. VM auto-healing or vm dr 14:25:40 <szaher> 2. DC dr ? 14:25:41 <szaher> 3. more evacuation techniques as there are some hardware modules that might break the migration and live migration 14:25:41 <szaher> 4. API to schedule and coordinate dr jobs 14:25:41 <szaher> 5. develop some scenarios that we need to cover 14:26:42 <szaher> 6. Application DR ? ( ability to heal a whole application ) 14:27:03 <vnogin> backups: 4, 7, 11, 14 14:27:23 <vnogin> dr: 1,2,3 14:27:25 <szaher> in number 6 I mean if we have 1 web instance and 1 db instance (the dr should take care of both as one entity move them together) 14:27:58 <szaher> jiaopengju: ? 14:28:48 <jiaopengju> backups 1 4 10 14 3 14:28:49 <raliev> dr 1,3,4 14:28:55 <szaher> vnogin raliev hopefully we can discuss this in the PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer-ptg-queens ? 14:29:04 <vnogin> szaher: sure 14:29:09 <raliev> szaher, yep 14:29:35 <jiaopengju> dr 1 4 14:30:44 <szaher> Good, so we can have a deep discussion in the PTG around these items and what should be done first and how can we move on 14:30:59 <jiaopengju> szaher: for dr 6, we may consider too much on the features of different applications 14:31:45 <vnogin> jiaopengju: are you going to visit PTG? 14:32:01 <szaher> jiaopengju: The idea is to provide a way to have the user specifying this him/herself 14:32:01 <jiaopengju> vnogin: I have no plan 14:32:07 <vnogin> jiaopengju: ok :( 14:32:19 <jiaopengju> szaher: get it 14:33:10 <jiaopengju> vnogin: I'm using crutches now 14:33:47 <szaher> jiaopengju: ouch! sorry to hear that 14:33:57 <jiaopengju> vnogin: so I can not go anywhere far away 14:33:57 <szaher> jiaopengju: Hope everything is Ok with you 14:34:06 <vnogin> jiaopengju: ah, I see :( hope everything is ok 14:34:16 <jiaopengju> szaher vnogin: Thanks 14:34:27 <jiaopengju> szaher: The same to you 14:34:38 <szaher> jiaopengju: Thanks :) 14:34:43 <szaher> Move on ?? 14:34:47 <vnogin> + 14:34:47 <jiaopengju> ok 14:34:51 <raliev> + 14:35:11 <szaher> #topic Availability of people 14:35:36 <szaher> Guys, what's your availability in Freezer ? 14:36:39 <vnogin> szaher: pretty sad to say it however Mirantis doesn't invest so many resources in upstream as it for before 14:37:14 <vnogin> szaher: currently my guys focused on our downstream 14:38:11 <raliev> but periodically I can spend some time on freezer issues 14:38:12 <vnogin> so it seems for the near future we can contribute only during our free time :( 14:38:32 <jiaopengju> szaher: I’m focused on data protection and backup, so I will have time to do the dev or test of freezer 14:39:01 <vnogin> szaher: however, I want to propose freezer to our product managment 14:39:29 <vnogin> szaher: I want to discuss it with you on PTG 14:39:50 <szaher> vnogin: well, not that much difference here 14:39:56 <szaher> jiaopengju: That's great 14:40:14 <szaher> vnogin: I'm trying to work on it on my free time 14:40:37 <vnogin> szaher: I know... the same for Intel, ericsson and rackspace :( 14:40:45 <szaher> vnogin: better if we can talk about how can we keep it moving 14:40:52 <vnogin> szaher: yep 14:40:52 <szaher> jiaopengju: we will keep you posted :) 14:41:15 <jiaopengju> szaher: :) 14:41:43 <szaher> move on ? 14:41:54 <vnogin> + 14:41:55 <raliev> yep 14:41:58 <jiaopengju> + 14:42:05 <szaher> #topic Queens PTG 14:42:38 <vnogin> I'll be there :) 14:42:41 <szaher> We will be using this etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer-ptg-queens for topics and decissions to be made in the PTG 14:42:55 <szaher> vnogin: That great :) 14:43:09 <szaher> vnogin: hopefully me too :) 14:44:10 <szaher> so guys we will discuss everything in more details in the PTG 14:44:12 <vnogin> szaher: hope so :) 14:44:20 <szaher> for the time being anyone would like to add anything ? 14:45:21 <vnogin> szaher: I think we can add few item during ptg 14:45:41 <raliev> +1 14:46:00 <szaher> vnogin: np :) 14:47:16 <szaher> anything else ? 14:47:25 <jiaopengju> this patch need review :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499475/ 14:47:47 <vnogin> jiaopengju: will do it 14:47:49 <jiaopengju> or we can cherry pick it to pike 14:48:03 <jiaopengju> vnogin: thanks 14:48:15 <szaher> jiaopengju: Done 14:48:43 <vnogin> jiaopengju: done 14:49:08 <jiaopengju> thank you szaher vnogin 14:49:43 <szaher> Thanks Guys 14:50:24 <vnogin> thanks guys :) 14:50:43 <szaher> #endmeeting