14:00:49 #startmeeting freezer 14:00:51 Meeting started Thu Aug 31 14:00:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is szaher. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:52 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:54 The meeting name has been set to 'freezer' 14:01:07 Hello Guys 14:01:20 Let's wait 5 minutes for everyone to join the meeting 14:01:58 hey 14:02:14 ping raliev vnogin jiaopengju jiaopengju02 zengchen zigo 14:02:24 Hi raliev 14:02:34 hi szaher 14:02:46 Hi jiaopengju :) 14:03:07 Please take a look at today's agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings 14:03:09 szaher: long time no see :) 14:03:50 jiaopengju: Yea, You remember I did an operation and I had some issues with it afterwards till now :) 14:07:45 szaher: Take care of yourself. I did an operation three months ago, and now I’m ok to work. 14:09:20 get better, szaher 14:11:04 hi guys, sorry, I'm here ) 14:11:19 hi vnogin 14:12:04 do we have any agenda for today? :) 14:12:37 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer_meetings 14:13:06 jiaopengju: hi, thx ) 14:13:16 vnogin: :) 14:15:10 Let's start ? 14:15:40 ok 14:16:28 #topic Freezer's future 14:17:16 Guys, what do we need to do next in Freezer ? 14:17:24 raliev ? 14:17:26 vnogin ? 14:17:34 jiaopengju ? 14:18:25 szaher: VM auto-healing for instance 14:18:39 vnogin: Hey :) 14:18:44 szaher: hey ) 14:18:57 vnogin: You mean HA for VMs ? 14:19:07 szaher: IMO, tenant backup need to be improved, to support cinder volumes etc 14:19:08 szaher: yep 14:19:34 szaher: also we need full ceph support 14:19:40 Ok... here we have two scopes in freezer, first backups second dr 14:19:49 refactor current unit and functional tests 14:20:35 and we need some kind of unified installer 14:20:44 also we need packages 14:20:52 at least deb 14:22:01 strengthen tests on freezer-scheduler or freezer-api 14:22:48 for backups may be we can have the following: 14:22:48 1. Tenant backups improvements 14:22:48 2. Deduplication ? 14:22:48 3. Engines Speed ? 14:22:49 4. Mulitple storages 14:22:49 5. Remote backups 14:22:49 6. Deprecate CLI and make it only working with job files 14:22:49 7. Enhance the UI 14:22:50 8. Multi-tenancy improvements 14:22:50 9. Improve UI 14:22:50 10. Increase tests and improve it 14:22:51 11. Integration with other projects 14:23:19 12. More modes/apps, engines and storages 14:23:48 13. Provide a solid instructions to develop new ones and to integrate with freezer 14:23:53 14. Docs 14:24:24 14 - should be first priority issue 14:25:33 I vote for 1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, 14 14:25:40 for DR: 14:25:40 1. VM auto-healing or vm dr 14:25:40 2. DC dr ? 14:25:41 3. more evacuation techniques as there are some hardware modules that might break the migration and live migration 14:25:41 4. API to schedule and coordinate dr jobs 14:25:41 5. develop some scenarios that we need to cover 14:26:42 6. Application DR ? ( ability to heal a whole application ) 14:27:03 backups: 4, 7, 11, 14 14:27:23 dr: 1,2,3 14:27:25 in number 6 I mean if we have 1 web instance and 1 db instance (the dr should take care of both as one entity move them together) 14:27:58 jiaopengju: ? 14:28:48 backups 1 4 10 14 3 14:28:49 dr 1,3,4 14:28:55 vnogin raliev hopefully we can discuss this in the PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer-ptg-queens ? 14:29:04 szaher: sure 14:29:09 szaher, yep 14:29:35 dr 1 4 14:30:44 Good, so we can have a deep discussion in the PTG around these items and what should be done first and how can we move on 14:30:59 szaher: for dr 6, we may consider too much on the features of different applications 14:31:45 jiaopengju: are you going to visit PTG? 14:32:01 jiaopengju: The idea is to provide a way to have the user specifying this him/herself 14:32:01 vnogin: I have no plan 14:32:07 jiaopengju: ok :( 14:32:19 szaher: get it 14:33:10 vnogin: I'm using crutches now 14:33:47 jiaopengju: ouch! sorry to hear that 14:33:57 vnogin: so I can not go anywhere far away 14:33:57 jiaopengju: Hope everything is Ok with you 14:34:06 jiaopengju: ah, I see :( hope everything is ok 14:34:16 szaher vnogin: Thanks 14:34:27 szaher: The same to you 14:34:38 jiaopengju: Thanks :) 14:34:43 Move on ?? 14:34:47 + 14:34:47 ok 14:34:51 + 14:35:11 #topic Availability of people 14:35:36 Guys, what's your availability in Freezer ? 14:36:39 szaher: pretty sad to say it however Mirantis doesn't invest so many resources in upstream as it for before 14:37:14 szaher: currently my guys focused on our downstream 14:38:11 but periodically I can spend some time on freezer issues 14:38:12 so it seems for the near future we can contribute only during our free time :( 14:38:32 szaher: I’m focused on data protection and backup, so I will have time to do the dev or test of freezer 14:39:01 szaher: however, I want to propose freezer to our product managment 14:39:29 szaher: I want to discuss it with you on PTG 14:39:50 vnogin: well, not that much difference here 14:39:56 jiaopengju: That's great 14:40:14 vnogin: I'm trying to work on it on my free time 14:40:37 szaher: I know... the same for Intel, ericsson and rackspace :( 14:40:45 vnogin: better if we can talk about how can we keep it moving 14:40:52 szaher: yep 14:40:52 jiaopengju: we will keep you posted :) 14:41:15 szaher: :) 14:41:43 move on ? 14:41:54 + 14:41:55 yep 14:41:58 + 14:42:05 #topic Queens PTG 14:42:38 I'll be there :) 14:42:41 We will be using this etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/freezer-ptg-queens for topics and decissions to be made in the PTG 14:42:55 vnogin: That great :) 14:43:09 vnogin: hopefully me too :) 14:44:10 so guys we will discuss everything in more details in the PTG 14:44:12 szaher: hope so :) 14:44:20 for the time being anyone would like to add anything ? 14:45:21 szaher: I think we can add few item during ptg 14:45:41 +1 14:46:00 vnogin: np :) 14:47:16 anything else ? 14:47:25 this patch need review :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499475/ 14:47:47 jiaopengju: will do it 14:47:49 or we can cherry pick it to pike 14:48:03 vnogin: thanks 14:48:15 jiaopengju: Done 14:48:43 jiaopengju: done 14:49:08 thank you szaher vnogin 14:49:43 Thanks Guys 14:50:24 thanks guys :) 14:50:43 #endmeeting