16:01:55 <kozhukalov> #startmeeting Fuel 16:01:56 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Nov 13 16:01:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kozhukalov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:57 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 16:02:00 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'fuel' 16:02:06 <agordeev> o/ 16:02:07 <kozhukalov> #chair kozhukalov 16:02:08 <openstack> Current chairs: kozhukalov 16:02:16 <alex_didenko> hi 16:02:23 <kozhukalov> agenda as usual 16:02:32 <kozhukalov> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fuel-weekly-meeting-agenda 16:02:55 <mihgen> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel/6.0_Release_Schedule 16:03:01 <mihgen> here is the schedule 16:03:04 <mihgen> for 6.0 16:03:11 <kozhukalov> #topic Announcements (mihgen) 16:03:34 <mihgen> folks we are doing dev in both 5.1.1 (stable/5.1) & 6.0 (master) 16:03:49 <mihgen> priorities and focus should be 5.1.1 first, and then 6.0 16:04:14 <mihgen> we wanted to get code freeze for 5.1.1 today, though it seems to be we still have a bunch of bugs there 16:04:31 <mihgen> also, today is the plan to call for SCF for 6.0 16:04:49 <mihgen> I don't see angdraug here to talk more about 5.1.1 status 16:05:06 <mihgen> for 6.0, in my opinion we are good to go with SCF 16:05:13 <mihgen> unless there are any objections 16:05:29 <mihgen> objections? 16:05:33 <kozhukalov> he was complaining that it is too early for US people 16:05:34 <msemenov> 3.13 kernel can be merged after SCF? 16:05:55 <kozhukalov> i mean angdraug ^^^ 16:06:04 <mihgen> msemenov: for 6.0, we can consider it as exception.. 16:06:13 <mihgen> when can you be ready with it? 16:06:33 <mihgen> if you need day or two, then it's fine. But no more I would say 16:06:43 <msemenov> we are ready, but have problems with this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133925 16:06:50 <mihgen> as we will need to test a lot of things, and see stable bahavior for weeks 16:06:56 <msemenov> I think, day or two is ok for us 16:07:06 <akasatkin> SCF or HCF for 5.1.1? 16:07:28 <mihgen> akasatkin: there is no SCF/HCF for 5.1.1, just code freeze 16:07:33 <mihgen> though it's like HCF 16:07:33 <kozhukalov> msemenov: this patch needs to be a bit improved, i'am sure it works, but... 16:07:46 <mihgen> because we basically stop accepting anything to stable/5.1 16:08:02 <msemenov> ok, I hope we will come to some conclusion on it 16:08:06 <vkramskikh> do we have plans to make code freeze separate for repos? soft or hard 16:08:19 <kozhukalov> msemenov: I'm sure we will 16:08:22 <mihgen> vkramskikh: good question, it's in agenda 16:08:37 <akasatkin> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1387345 - for 5.1.1. How much is it important? 16:08:39 <mihgen> kozhukalov: I'm done with general announcement 16:08:40 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1387345 in mos/5.1.x "Heat deployment in HA mode: different value for auth_encryption_key parameter on each controller node" [High,In progress] 16:09:14 <kozhukalov> ok, guys, let's use this topic for announcements only 16:09:15 <mihgen> akasatkin: hard to say quickly 16:09:19 <kozhukalov> not for discussions 16:09:33 <mihgen> kozhukalov: you have announcement regarding changing the time of the meeting? 16:10:09 <kozhukalov> yes, for US people it seems to be to early 16:10:28 <kozhukalov> my suggestion is to move our meeting to 1700 utc 16:10:38 <mihgen> 8pm msk? 16:10:45 <mihgen> same day? 16:11:02 <barthalion> o/ 16:11:03 <kozhukalov> there is a free time slot on Thursdays 17-18 utc but it is in #openstack-meeting 16:11:11 <barthalion> won't it be a bit late? 16:11:21 <kozhukalov> yes, 20 msk, Thursdays 16:11:43 <kozhukalov> guys, is it ok? 16:11:49 <mihgen> what time is it in CA? 16:11:54 <mihgen> 9am? 16:12:13 <kozhukalov> no idea 16:12:23 <mihgen> yes, it's gonna be 9am 16:12:30 <mihgen> Now we start at 8am PST 16:12:37 <kozhukalov> ca -8 utc 16:12:38 <mihgen> it's not too early, seems to me fine 16:12:50 <kozhukalov> so 9am pst 16:12:58 <mihgen> now is 8.12am PST, so I'm against moving the time to +1 hour 16:13:10 <mihgen> it's gonna be too late for MSK timezone 16:13:13 <kozhukalov> 9am is ok 16:13:27 <mihgen> you see even late for barthalion , who is in Poland? 16:13:30 <kozhukalov> 8am is not for CA guys 16:13:45 <salmon_> mihgen: 16:13:57 <mihgen> they wake up at 6am to get intersection with all EU countries anyway 16:14:08 <kozhukalov> mihgen: poland time is +1 utc 16:14:17 <kozhukalov> or maybe +2 utc 16:14:21 <ntrueblood> 8am is fine for CA team. The sun is up. ;) 16:14:22 <salmon_> we have 5:14PM now 16:14:41 <kozhukalov> ntrueblood: )) 16:14:51 <kozhukalov> ok, let's make a desicion 16:14:54 <mihgen> let's keep it as is for now. If there are objections from other - we will do voting 16:15:02 <mihgen> and can discuss it in openstack-dev ML 16:15:17 <kozhukalov> ok, moving on then 16:15:18 <mihgen> ok guys let's move on 16:15:37 <kozhukalov> #topic Image based provisioning (agordeev) 16:15:41 <agordeev> hi 16:15:45 <kozhukalov> hi 16:15:56 <agordeev> image based provisioning 16:15:58 <agordeev> mdadm issues are still in progress, but closer to fixing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1390492 16:16:01 <agordeev> hanging mount points issue is in progress too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1391896 16:16:02 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1390492 in fuel "Provisioning failed if inactive md device had been found" [High,Fix committed] 16:16:02 <agordeev> progress reporting is in progress too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1383748 16:16:03 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1391896 in fuel "hanging mount points when building iso" [High,In progress] 16:16:04 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1383748 in fuel "Provisioning progress bar doesn't work if image based provisioning" [High,In progress] 16:16:04 <agordeev> hope to finish them on this week. 16:16:06 <agordeev> and i'm glad to tell that new bug haven't appeared so far 16:16:08 <agordeev> that's all 16:16:38 <mihgen> agordeev: thx. mdadm bug is closed actually now 16:16:46 <mihgen> you say it's not yet done - status wrong? 16:17:13 <agordeev> mihgen: it's not fixed yes. so it's re-opened 16:17:14 <mihgen> question - we are getting images build during master ISO build now? 16:17:30 <mihgen> and those are getting into 6.0 ISO now? 16:17:51 <kozhukalov> mihgen: exactly 16:17:53 <mihgen> also, are those getting into upgrade tarball too (6.0)? 16:18:04 <kozhukalov> besides there are two other patches 16:18:20 <lpabon> hi 16:18:21 <kozhukalov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133481/ 16:18:23 <lpabon> sorry i'm late 16:18:50 <kozhukalov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133731/ 16:19:01 <mihgen> looks like our ISO build now takes +20 more min build time (and becomes 1h build) because of this. Any When do you plan to make it as separate run so we don't rebuild them when not needed? 16:19:06 <kozhukalov> they are about placing images into upgrade tarball 16:19:10 <agordeev> mihgen: images building is turned on by default. but the feature turned off for the nailgun, you need to swtich it into experimental mode manually 16:20:12 <mihgen> kozhukalov: ok, I hope we can land those really soon - as we need QA to verify evrything when all pieces are in 16:20:18 <kozhukalov> mihgen: when devops guys will be ready 16:20:32 <mihgen> devops guys… ? ^^ 16:20:45 <kozhukalov> i mean separate build 16:20:51 <kozhukalov> for images 16:21:09 <mihgen> yeah, that's my question to bookwar monester 16:21:23 <mihgen> don't see monester here, bookwar -please poke him 16:21:35 <kozhukalov> afaik dpyzhov is going to prioritize artifact based building next release 16:22:09 <mihgen> we are sufferting more and more without it - as to see a little patch we need to rebuild too many things 16:22:17 <mihgen> just non-effective 16:22:35 <kozhukalov> yes 16:22:36 <mihgen> ok let's move on, I'll talk to devops later 16:22:39 <kozhukalov> moving on? 16:22:40 <bookwar> we don't have versioning and metadata for different pieces 16:22:54 <mihgen> bookwar: what's that about? 16:22:57 <bookwar> we can'not split the build unless it is resolved 16:23:05 <mihgen> kozhukalov: ? 16:23:17 <kozhukalov> bookwar: version.yaml ? 16:23:26 <kozhukalov> at least version.yaml 16:23:50 <mihgen> ok let's get it out of the meeting. we need to resolve it, we can't simply increase and increase build time … . ( 16:23:51 <kozhukalov> what we need is switching to job builder 16:24:00 <kozhukalov> ok 16:24:13 <kozhukalov> #topic ironic integration (kozhukalov) 16:24:22 <kozhukalov> here there are some good news 16:24:32 <kozhukalov> ironic is in the core at the moment 16:24:51 <kozhukalov> so ironic people became much more open for new use cases and feature 16:25:28 <kozhukalov> some fuel guys took part in a series of beer meetings during summit 16:25:40 <mihgen> yeah I met Devananda at the summit, he said we need to provide our use cases 16:25:40 <kozhukalov> and now we have an agreement 16:26:01 <kozhukalov> we can implements everything we need as Ironic driver 16:26:08 <mihgen> I missed the beer part with him unfortunately, but anyway ) 16:26:24 <kozhukalov> we already have working agent side 16:26:27 <mihgen> kozhukalov: did we start any mailng thread on this already? 16:26:37 <mihgen> or any other communication? 16:26:55 <kozhukalov> so it looks like 7.0 release is suitable for delivering ironic as a part of fuel 16:27:20 <kozhukalov> yesterday we had a discussion with one of ironic cores 16:27:47 <mihgen> I think we should a) monitor ML for [Ironic], b) start actively discussing alignment of what we need and what's there in ML, not only in private channels 16:27:57 <kozhukalov> we agreed that we need start discussing this in ML and start design efforts 16:28:04 <mihgen> kozhukalov: cool 16:28:14 <mihgen> sounds very good, really 16:28:25 <kozhukalov> moving on 16:28:38 <kozhukalov> #topic collect information on all the changes in the packages (dburmistrov) 16:28:44 <dburmistrov> hi all 16:28:59 <dburmistrov> We implemented global changelog for all packages included to the iso 16:29:07 <dburmistrov> Script gathers lastest changelog entry (if changelog exists) from each package and place it to global changelog file in the iso root 16:29:16 <dburmistrov> For deb packages script gathers changelog info only from changelog.Debian.gz file on order to prevent junk into global changelog file. 16:29:22 <dburmistrov> According to Debian policy another changelog* files contains upstream changelog. 16:29:31 <dburmistrov> If script can't find changelog.Debian.gz file, such package will be skipped from processing global changelog. 16:29:54 <dburmistrov> that's all 16:30:12 <mihgen> dburmistrov: this is excellent improvement in my opinion. People now can see what fixes in packages are in the ISO 16:30:24 <mihgen> dburmistrov: I have question about bugs raised on this 16:30:34 <mihgen> like it's inconsistent with reality 16:30:42 <kozhukalov> afaik there were some problems with changelog during iso building 16:30:50 <kozhukalov> bookwar: am i right? 16:30:52 <mihgen> did you resolve those or what's the status over those? 16:31:11 <mihgen> kozhukalov: that's probably a different issue you are talking about, mine is about content 16:31:15 <dburmistrov> yes, some packages haven't changelog or it placed twith incorrect name. we're working on it 16:31:30 <mihgen> dburmistrov: ok 16:31:48 <bookwar> kozhukalov: it already works for 5.1.1, we are dealing with 6.0 atm 16:32:06 <kozhukalov> bookwar: cool 16:32:17 <kozhukalov> moving on? 16:32:20 <mihgen> kozhukalov: bookwar loop device issue during the iso build? 16:32:39 <bookwar> mihgen: agordeev proposed a fix for it 16:32:47 <kozhukalov> mihgen: fix is ready for loop device 16:33:00 <mihgen> good, thanks 16:33:06 <mihgen> let's move on 16:33:11 <kozhukalov> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134029/ 16:33:27 <kozhukalov> #topic granting FFE to sahara-create-default-templates (dmitryme) 16:33:50 <kozhukalov> dmitryme: around? 16:33:55 <dmitryme> Hello people, so basically I wanted to ask for feature freeze exception for the following feature: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mos/+spec/sahara-create-default-templates 16:34:03 <dmitryme> It requires changes in Fuel and the CR is already proposed here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132196/ 16:34:17 <dmitryme> Basically it is a really nit change, so should be rather safe to merge it now. 16:34:35 <dmitryme> can we discuss it right now? 16:34:52 <mihgen> dmitryme: how large is the feature?.. blueprint misses our standard header with responsible people 16:35:10 <mihgen> dmitryme: and design spec. See good example - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/send-anon-usage 16:35:27 <dmitryme> mihgen: it is a single CR you can see above ^^ 16:35:48 <mihgen> dmitryme: patch looks more simple than complex, and probably affects only sahara 16:36:27 <mihgen> dmitryme: but I think we should get a closer look into it. Could you send email in openstack-dev so we can give a day to look into.. ? 16:37:04 <dmitryme> mihgen: I’ve already sent an email http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050283.html :-) 16:37:04 <mihgen> The only worry I have right away is that qa has to know what's up there to ensure production quality 16:37:34 <dmitryme> mihgen: that should be tested by MOS QA 16:37:48 <mihgen> dmitryme: oh cool, I'll ping folks to take a closer look then 16:37:57 <dmitryme> mihgen: thank you 16:38:12 <mihgen> kozhukalov: let's move on 16:38:26 <kozhukalov> #topic separate code freeze for repos (vkramskikh) 16:38:35 <vkramskikh> hi 16:38:40 <vkramskikh> There was an idea to make a separate code freeze for repos, but we decided not to do it. Do we plan to try it this time? It is really painful to maintain multi-level tree of dependent review requests and wait for a few weeks until we can merge new stuff in master. 16:38:40 <kozhukalov> hi 16:38:51 <vkramskikh> though 2 weeks before HCF are ok for me, unless we postpone HCF :) 16:39:42 <mihgen> so for everyone the issue is that UI usually have no bugs for weeks, while others still struggle with bugs 16:39:57 <mihgen> and basically UI team can't land any fixes in master as it's closed.. 16:40:05 <vkramskikh> exactly 16:40:22 <ikalnitsky> how we gonnda decide for fuel-web? we have there many projects, not only ui part? 16:40:26 <mihgen> I'm +1 for changing the flow and defining other criteria for branching 16:40:36 <ikalnitsky> i mean ui may be stable, but what about fuel-upgrade or nailgun? 16:40:53 <mihgen> ikalnitsky: that's a good question. Probably we can do it only if both stable 16:41:06 <mihgen> unless we separate the code into different repos 16:41:13 <mihgen> (not in 6.0 obviously) 16:41:31 <mihgen> vkramskikh: do we have a ML thread for this issue? 16:41:47 <kozhukalov> +1 for separating projects 16:41:57 <vkramskikh> mihgen: yes, the topic is "[Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos" 16:42:06 <ikalnitsky> +1 for different repos 16:42:07 <vkramskikh> (without replies) 16:42:28 <mihgen> I remember there were objections to separate date for creating stable branch for separate projects… are there any now? 16:42:35 <vkramskikh> as for separating projects, it needs a separate discussion as it is not trivial 16:42:54 <vkramskikh> as we need both UI and nailgun to run UI functional or CLI tests 16:43:00 <kozhukalov> mihgen: the objection was mostly about testing 16:43:14 <kozhukalov> mihgen: currently ui needs nailgun for its tests 16:43:17 <ikalnitsky> vkramskikh: git pull nailgun is ok for tests. it's not a problem. 16:43:32 <kozhukalov> fuelclient also needs nailgun for testing 16:43:41 <kozhukalov> that is not normal 16:43:45 <mihgen> ok let's try to do one by one first of all, so fuel-web as a whole 16:43:54 <mihgen> if it's stable enough, we could do branching 16:44:02 <vkramskikh> +1 16:44:04 <mihgen> while fuel-lib is still struggling with bugs for instance 16:44:38 <ikalnitsky> yep, so we need to decide how can we know that fuel-web (as a whole) is stable. let's discuss that in ML 16:44:39 <mihgen> vkramskikh: ok, I'll reply on your email. Other, especially qa and release mgrs, this is imprortant to take a look into 16:44:55 <mihgen> ikalnitsky: yeah I have some thoughts in mind on this 16:45:02 <mihgen> thx folks, kozhukalov - let's move on 16:45:08 <kozhukalov> ok 16:45:21 <kozhukalov> #topic diff upgrade tarball (ikalnitsky) 16:45:31 <ikalnitsky> this monday we have merged all latest fixes in both 5.1.1 and 6.0, so now you can download a fully-working tarball from our ci. 16:45:37 <ikalnitsky> last two days qa have performed some manual tests, and today some automation tests are successful passed. so i can say that at this moment all looks good. 16:45:49 <ikalnitsky> some info about tarball size: 16:45:49 <ikalnitsky> upgrade tarball for 5.1.1 = ~1.1 Gb (brings 5.1.1-5.1 diff) 16:45:50 <ikalnitsky> upgrade tarball for 6.0 = ~1.6 Gb (brings 5.1.1-5.1 diff and 6.0-5.1 diff) 16:45:56 <ikalnitsky> that's all for now 16:46:04 <mihgen> ikalnitsky: excellent! it was like 2.5gb before for 5.1 16:46:13 <mihgen> what about system tests? 16:46:21 <mihgen> is it all connected now to systests? 16:46:41 <ikalnitsky> mihgen: yep, but not all jobs are completed 16:46:52 <mihgen> bookwar: devops part - did we configure all required attention to jobs, like notifications, etc. 16:46:58 <ikalnitsky> some of them have not been started 16:46:59 <mihgen> ikalnitsky: what's left? 16:47:03 <bookwar> we test 5.1 to 5.1.1 upgrade tarball as a part of the swarm run 16:48:00 <bookwar> mihgen: the 5.1.1 upgrade tarball is build together with 5.1.1 iso with same notificattions, the 6.0 upgrade tarball is not yet 16:48:32 <ikalnitsky> bookwar: when you're going to connect 6.0 tarball to swarm? 16:48:44 <mihgen> bookwar: we need to treat these jobs in the same way as we treat 6.0 iso build.. 16:49:21 <bookwar> ikalnitsky: we'll move from 6.0.iso to 6.0.all job tomorrow probably and then it go through the whole testing process 16:49:32 <ikalnitsky> bookwar: nice. thank you. 16:50:29 <kozhukalov> ok, looks we have nothing to discuss in our agenda 16:50:37 <mihgen> kozhukalov: open discussion.. 16:50:37 <kozhukalov> #topic open discussion 16:51:07 <mihgen> we've got bvt centos failure https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1392386 16:51:08 <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 1392386 in mos "Neutron network deletion fails: "DBDeadlock: (OperationalError)"" [High,New] 16:51:22 <mihgen> I'm wondering why it's High, not Critical - if it blocks our bvt 16:51:28 <mihgen> from being green 16:51:42 <mihgen> anyone took a look into it? 16:52:24 <mihgen> dmitryme: targets neutron too 16:52:38 <bookwar> mihgen: artem_panchenko and mattymo are looking into it 16:52:52 <mihgen> kk 16:52:58 <bookwar> it has not been reproduced on reverted environment 16:53:08 <bookwar> so it is some floating issue probably 16:53:20 <mihgen> worst issue to have.. 16:53:23 <dmitryme> mihgen: just received a message from aignatov: he noticed the bug 16:54:53 <kozhukalov> any other q? 16:55:23 <kozhukalov> looks like we are done 16:55:46 <kozhukalov> closing then 16:55:53 <mihgen> thx all 16:55:55 <kozhukalov> thanx everyone 16:56:06 <kozhukalov> #endmeeting