04:00:29 <njohnston> #startmeeting fwaas
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04:00:36 <yushiro> Hi all
04:00:41 <njohnston> #chair xgerman SridarK yushiro
04:00:42 <openstack> Current chairs: SridarK njohnston xgerman yushiro
04:00:44 <xgerman> O/
04:00:44 <chandanc> Hello all
04:00:47 <SarathMekala> Hi all
04:00:48 <njohnston> Good day all!
04:00:58 <SridarK> lets get started
04:01:07 <SridarK> #topic FWaaS v2
04:01:27 <SridarK> firstly congrats and thanks to all for the super human effort over the last week to get things in
04:01:45 <njohnston> +100, thanks and congratulations to all.
04:01:58 <njohnston> We got more done than anyone thought we could!
04:01:59 <SarathMekala> +1
04:01:59 <chandanc> yes it was a great team work :)
04:02:00 <yushiro> yes, thanks !!
04:02:07 <SridarK> IMHO, i think this was a great run for the team to get a lot of things done
04:02:25 <SridarK> and some fantastic teamwork across multiple time zones
04:02:25 <xgerman> +1
04:03:20 <yushiro> yes :)  thanks for your kindness.
04:03:21 <SridarK> i think we pretty much have everything in,
04:03:30 <SridarK> based on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/
04:03:51 <SridarK> the post mortem doc - it seems we will not get an FFE to push the CLI in
04:04:26 <chandanc> oh
04:04:33 <SridarK> i think that is fine, we still have some drawing board discussions - as in the email we have going with the FWaaS folks
04:04:58 <SridarK> yushiro: i know u have been pushing real hard on this
04:05:07 <njohnston> It is sad, but at least with the policy.json changes that just merged we will have the ability to give instructions using API interactions instead of CLI interactions, at least
04:05:22 <SridarK> +1
04:05:27 <yushiro> SridarK: Yes with Akihiro.
04:05:27 <xgerman> Nice!
04:05:39 <njohnston> And I am sure that if we keep the good work up there will be a python-neutronclient with the fwaas changes coming out soon
04:05:55 <SridarK> yushiro: i think u can continue to address the review comments and u can merge it in very soon into O-1
04:06:18 <SridarK> yushiro: also over the next few days if something were to change - we will take that
04:06:32 <yushiro> SridarK: Yeah. I hope so.  Also I'll try to docs after.
04:07:05 <SridarK> i think we have enough in for folks to use with the REST i/f as njohnston mentions above
04:07:21 <njohnston> yushiro: I have an update to documentation that I have started, if anyone wants to contribute please do: https://review.openstack.org/366331
04:07:31 <SridarK> njohnston: +1
04:07:31 <njohnston> This is based on a conversation I had with Sam-I-Am today: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-doc/%23openstack-doc.2016-09-06.log.html#t2016-09-06T17:04:02
04:08:07 <yushiro> njohnston: great.
04:08:13 <chandanc> njohnston, sure
04:08:24 <SridarK> so lets all chip in on the doc front
04:08:34 <SridarK> both in terms of content and reviews
04:08:54 <SridarK> the other thing for us this week - would be to continue with the testing
04:09:32 <njohnston> +1
04:09:43 <SridarK> as we find issues - lets look at the seriousness of the issue and look for a solution - we should make sure that we follow due process
04:09:54 <njohnston> I haven't seen anyone else using the policy.d framework that we just shifted to use, so it'd be good to make sure it actually works.
04:10:14 <SridarK> and get critical fixes in and let the not so crtitical or cosmetic issues slide on to O
04:10:21 <SridarK> njohnston: +1
04:10:43 <SridarK> yes we do need to ensure that it is good, first order of business for us
04:11:02 <yushiro> njohnston: exactly.  we need to make sure.
04:11:54 <SridarK> ok we can all get some devstack deployments spinning
04:12:21 <njohnston> It should be much easier now that all these things have merged - much less cherry-picking!
04:12:45 <SridarK> i think with that and the documentation - we should be wrapping up Newton
04:13:01 <xgerman> +1
04:13:21 <SridarK> other things to discuss for Newton ?
04:14:01 <njohnston> nope!
04:14:04 <yushiro> OK.
04:14:16 <SridarK> ok lets move on
04:14:27 <SridarK> #topic FWaaS v2 Ocata
04:14:42 <SridarK> njohnston: thx for capturing some of the things in flight for Ocata
04:15:15 <njohnston> I put up a separate Etherpad where we can all share out Ocata thoughts: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fwaas-ocata
04:15:27 <njohnston> Ocata is a short cycle, so we should try to be focused on our work and keep up the velocity we have maintained in the past few weeks
04:15:40 <SarathMekala> njohnston, getting permission denied on the links
04:16:08 <yushiro> njohnston: thanks!
04:16:13 <njohnston> SarathMekala: That is odd, it's just the regular openstack etherpad... I don't thinkt here is any authentication for those
04:16:19 <SridarK> lets review that and actually if we can target the remaining things and try to wrap up as much b4 the Summit that will be great
04:16:32 <SridarK> SarathMekala: i am able to get on
04:16:56 <yushiro> njohnston:  documentation for CLI  usage is necessary.  Can I add for it ?
04:17:06 <padkrish> njohnston# Should we be targetting versioned objects as well?
04:17:09 <njohnston> yushiro: Please do!
04:17:12 <SridarK> chandanc: & SarathMekala: as soon as Newton ends can u push for reviews on the neutron changes for iptables
04:17:17 <SarathMekala> sorry my bad.. its working.. the links have a trailing ')'
04:17:18 <njohnston> padkrish: Yes, I think we should
04:17:20 <SridarK> padkrish: i believe so too
04:17:23 <chandanc> yes will do
04:17:32 <padkrish> ok, will add it to etherpad
04:17:43 <yushiro> done
04:18:25 <njohnston> great!
04:20:43 <SridarK> ok i think we are in agreement here that we will focus on the dependencies and other things we need to wrap up around L2
04:21:18 <njohnston> yes
04:21:24 <SridarK> other things to discuss here ?
04:22:17 <SridarK> if there are no other topics, we can head to open discusion
04:22:29 <amotoki> hi, I happened to find this meeting.
04:22:35 <SridarK> amotoki: hi
04:22:43 <yushiro> welcome!
04:22:43 <amotoki> do you have a plan to implement FWaaS v2 horizon support in Ocata?
04:22:50 <SridarK> amotoki: yes
04:22:58 <SridarK> we will need to find a volunteer
04:23:13 <amotoki> horizon team needs to deprecate fwaas v1 panel at some time officially.
04:23:22 <SridarK> amotoki: but yes that is the plan
04:23:36 <SridarK> amotoki: ah ok - this should be in Ocata ?
04:23:54 <amotoki> it is not a requirement
04:24:07 <SridarK> amotoki: is it possible that this can wait till we deprecate fwaas v1
04:24:11 <njohnston> amotoki: We are still supporting FWaaS v1 at this time
04:24:23 <amotoki> I think it should be doen once FWaaS v2 API becomes stable or mature.
04:24:32 <njohnston> +1
04:24:35 <SridarK> amotoki: ok that makes sense
04:24:43 <yushiro> :)
04:24:48 <amotoki> njohnston: fwaas v1 API is marked as deprecated in liberty release notes.
04:25:14 <amotoki> njohnston: I know we are still supporting it though.
04:25:35 <SridarK> amotoki: it seems there are still some users, so we should let v2 mature
04:25:48 <amotoki> totally agree
04:26:46 <padkrish> but there's no option now, it has to be V1 :)
04:27:32 <SridarK> amotoki: ok we will look into seeing who can volunteer for the Horizon work for fwaasv2, i will also talk to robcresswell
04:28:04 <amotoki> SridarK: i chatted this topic with rob a few days ago.
04:28:12 <SridarK> amotoki: also thx for helping with reviews on the fwaas v2 CLI
04:28:16 <amotoki> SridarK: this leads to my question above.
04:28:23 <SridarK> amotoki: ok
04:28:32 <SarathMekala> hi SridarK: I can give it a shot
04:28:40 <SridarK> SarathMekala: ok great
04:28:43 <SarathMekala> I have done some dabbling with Django a while ago
04:28:46 <amotoki> anyway let's share the plan if any udpate!
04:28:52 <amotoki> *update
04:28:59 <SridarK> amotoki: ok will do
04:29:06 <amotoki> SridarK: thanks
04:29:20 <SridarK> amotoki: do u see a lot more work on the CLI
04:30:35 <SridarK> amotoki: thx for ur help and direction, it seems this may not get an FFE, so in that case we would like to get it in soon after Ocata opens
04:30:50 <amotoki> SridarK: I think CLI support is almost good. some clean up are needed.
04:31:18 <amotoki> SridarK: we can release the client once Ocata release window is open.
04:31:29 <amotoki> SridarK: I think it is fine with FWaaS team.
04:31:32 <SridarK> amotoki: ok great, i think we had some discussions on co-existence with fwaas v1
04:31:51 <SridarK> amotoki: ok thx, anyways yushiro is working closely with u
04:32:02 <amotoki> SridarK: exactly
04:32:12 <yushiro> yeahaaaad
04:32:14 <yushiro> *yeah
04:32:24 <SridarK> amotoki: any thing else u would like to discuss
04:33:06 <amotoki> SridarK: none from me
04:33:17 <SridarK> amotoki: thx for stopping by
04:33:26 <SridarK> and we will update the Horizon plan
04:33:34 <yushiro> Thanks amotoki.
04:33:58 <SridarK> #topic Open Discussion
04:34:32 <SridarK> ok folks i think we have the important issues covered, we focus on testing/ critical bug fixing and Docs
04:34:47 <yushiro> Yeah.
04:34:51 <chandanc> I will be out of station for the next 2 days
04:34:59 <SridarK> other things we would like to discuss
04:35:10 <SridarK> chandanc: ok thx - u deserve a break
04:35:13 <yushiro> SridarK: 1 thing
04:35:20 <chandanc> :)
04:35:36 <yushiro> How about OSC plugin for fwaas v1 ?  I'd like to disscuss this priority.
04:36:11 <yushiro> I think this priority is not so high and should be focus on debugging/testing.
04:36:25 <SridarK> yushiro: i would agree with u
04:36:44 <amotoki> I think it needs to be discussed with migration plan to v2 and neutron CLI deprecation plan.
04:36:59 <SridarK> but soon after this next week or 2 - if it makes sense lets look into it
04:37:21 <amotoki> even after neutron CLI is deprecated, it does not mean neutron CLI will go away soon.
04:38:30 <SridarK> amotoki: ok so this can wait as we figure out the migration plan
04:38:41 <njohnston> So I was wondering, who on the team is going to Barcelona?  I am, with mfranc213.  Who else?
04:38:58 <yushiro> njohnston: Maybe I will !
04:39:25 <SridarK> I will make it
04:39:36 <hoangcx> njohnston: I will be there too
04:39:46 <padkrish> not sure about me, waiting for budget
04:39:51 <SridarK> xgerman: said he may not be able to
04:39:59 <SridarK> chandanc: , SarathMekala: ?
04:40:07 <chandanc> Not sure as of now
04:40:15 <chandanc> will update soon
04:40:22 <SarathMekala> yep.. not clear as of now
04:40:27 <njohnston> I will be glad to see everyone who can be there!  Perhaps this time we can get a room to discuss things and work together.
04:40:29 <SridarK> ok hope u guys can make it too
04:40:36 <SridarK> njohnston: +1
04:40:44 <yushiro> njohnston++
04:41:52 <amotoki> as you may know, pike project team gathering will be held around Feb 20.
04:41:56 <amotoki> http://www.openstack.org/ptg
04:41:56 <hoangcx> njohnston: In Austin, We found a good place for discussion. But it would be better if we can get a room :-)
04:42:07 <amotoki> note that ocata cycle will be shorted than usual.
04:42:17 <amotoki> *shorter*
04:43:28 <yushiro> amotoki: OK thanks. I'll remember.
04:43:36 <njohnston> Indeed.  We will have to keep our disciplined approach to make sure we meet the expedited timetable for delivery of what we have targeted for that timeperiod.
04:43:42 <SridarK> i am hoping we will be able to pick up the L2 pieces rather quickly
04:44:11 <yushiro> SridarK: Yes. I'll work on it.
04:44:14 <SridarK> njohnston: +1
04:44:33 <SridarK> yushiro: thx, we will need to get the neutron pieces reviewed first
04:44:34 <yushiro> padkrish: thanks for your e-mail around L2 pieces.
04:44:36 <padkrish> me too...
04:44:55 <padkrish> need to finalize on the RPC part, will send a rough patch
04:45:01 <SridarK> yushiro: padkrish: i think the pieces are quite well defined
04:45:11 <padkrish> thanks njohnston for the pointer
04:45:36 <yushiro> SridarK: I think so.  padkrish and njohnston can clarify that.
04:45:48 <SridarK> with the CLI in good shape, if we land the L2 pieces - we will have time to do more interop testing with Security Groups
04:46:00 <chandanc> +1
04:47:07 <njohnston> We should also go through the spec and make sure we identify any other areas we need to implement in order to complete it
04:47:34 <njohnston> for example, the spec says that we must allow multiple firewall group associations to a given port, but I think at the moment we only allow one
04:47:36 <SridarK> njohnston: yes i think the pieces are quite relevant in the L2 context
04:48:02 <padkrish> njohnston: +1
04:48:12 <chandanc> njohnston, i agree
04:48:32 <yushiro> njohnston: correct.  We should support step by step.
04:49:15 <SarathMekala> right. The current driver design supports multi-port association though
04:49:16 <SridarK> njohnston: on that specific, we should be more comfortable on any ordering implications -there were some concerns there
04:49:28 <SarathMekala> the behaviour is that the latest rule wins
04:49:34 <SridarK> but yes we can validate that for sure
04:49:46 <njohnston> SridarK: agreed
04:50:00 <SridarK> also possibly a scrub thru the spec to see if some of the more esoteric features are needed
04:50:50 <yushiro> It is better to summarize on etherpad or anywhere with current SPEC(we should support for Ocata)
04:51:04 <yushiro> I'll consider about it.
04:51:24 <SarathMekala> hi all.. while going though the spec I had some questions
04:51:33 <SarathMekala> was waiting for the right time to ask :0
04:51:37 <SarathMekala> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w8JjOp_iu6Lwr59saDDyMHLbmY_r4g-gvsvE-R1xD_k/edit?usp=sharing
04:51:44 <SarathMekala> can you take a look at this doc
04:52:02 <njohnston> looking...
04:52:28 <SarathMekala> go through it.. we can follow up on mail
04:52:49 <SridarK> SarathMekala: thx, lets add this to the ocata etherpad
04:53:05 <SarathMekala> sure.. will do that
04:54:32 <njohnston> Well, we're almost out of time
04:54:37 <SridarK> we could build a user story around some of these next level features - to validate complexity vs how useful
04:55:10 <SridarK> yes more offline discussions, after the next couple weeks
04:55:21 <SridarK> now we can stay on testing and doc
04:56:37 <SridarK> over the last few weeks - it has been fantastic to work together as a team - even though we come from differing corporate affiliations
04:56:48 <SridarK> never actually felt that
04:57:02 <SridarK> so thx again for that
04:57:14 <njohnston> I couldn't agree more.  I am so proud to be a member of the FWaaS team!  Thanks everyone!
04:57:25 <SridarK> i hope we can continue to to work togther over Ocata as well
04:57:28 <chandanc> Thanks to all :)
04:57:41 <yushiro> Me too.  Thanks for giving me this opportunity.
04:57:47 <SarathMekala> +1 Great to be with this team
04:58:02 <padkrish> +1
04:58:19 <SridarK> 2 min warning :-)
04:58:51 <SridarK> all right we can connect up over on openstack-fwaas or email
04:58:51 <njohnston> Anything else?
04:58:56 <njohnston> sounds good
04:59:00 <SridarK> nothing from me
04:59:08 <yushiro> None for me
04:59:15 <njohnston> #endmeeting