14:01:25 #startmeeting fwaas 14:01:27 Meeting started Thu Jun 7 14:01:25 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:01:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:31 The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' 14:01:41 o/ 14:02:07 #chair SridarK xgerman_ yushiro 14:02:08 Current chairs: SridarK xgerman_ yushiro 14:02:27 yushiro: xgerman_ can one of u run todays mtg 14:02:27 hi 14:02:32 sure 14:02:46 i will need to step away soon as family member health issue 14:02:51 so on PTO today 14:02:54 ok 14:03:01 #topic Announcements 14:03:01 i will hang around for a few mins 14:03:13 SridarK: hope everything goes well 14:03:19 +1 14:03:21 njohnston: thx 14:03:30 SridarK: take care of your family! 14:03:33 SridarK, Oh, boy. I wish your family's condition would be better. 14:03:34 +1 14:03:42 thx all 14:03:43 +1 14:04:22 They are merging PTG and summit again 14:04:30 +1 14:04:47 will make things on budget issues easier on our employers 14:05:11 going to 4 events in a year has been a challenge 14:05:20 * njohnston realizes he has to catch up on his openstack-dev mail 14:06:15 yeah, that 14:06:24 s the intent + many are also attending kubecon 14:06:43 xgerman_: I think it is not a decision yet... while there are various discussions 14:06:54 yeah. And next next summit will be in Denver? At that time, PTG and summit will be combined or not.. 14:07:10 yes, it’s Denver twice 14:07:11 amotoki, yes 14:07:20 yushiro: PTG is in Sep and summit is in Apr 2019 14:07:30 +1 14:07:39 amotoki, Thanks 14:07:40 +1 14:08:06 I visitied the convention center at the last PTG. The big blue bear is nice :) 14:08:07 Denver is happening for sure 14:08:40 I assume Berlin is still happening as well in Nov? 14:08:43 It is the PTG's after Denver that might nort happen 14:08:50 Yes, Berlin is happening 14:08:56 +1 14:09:07 CFP for Berlin is open now 14:09:33 gotta come up with something 14:09:41 +1 14:09:53 Aha, CFP! 14:10:07 * mlavalle would like to discuss one point in the Open Agenda section of the meeting 14:10:15 k 14:10:21 R-2 is this week 14:10:23 https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html 14:10:23 let's move on 14:10:38 xgerman_: one other quick note 14:11:09 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572666/ is a patch of Rocky-2 deliverables 14:11:14 reached out to chandan - He and Sarath will join next week so we can get updates on Horizon 14:11:26 sweet 14:11:27 they are tied up on internal release 14:11:40 +1 +1 :) 14:13:13 #topic Rocky 14:13:45 We need to fast track 14:13:48 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571331/ 14:14:16 I think client freezes before everyhting else 14:14:29 and do we have more client changes? 14:14:52 xgerman_: the client freeze happens at the same time as for the server side. 14:15:21 yeah, but release is a week befire RC 14:15:37 that's true. 14:15:51 so we have with client until 7/23 but server 8/6 14:16:35 just putting it on the front burner and if there are more client changes needed we should get the patches in sooner 14:16:49 xgerman_, Currently, there is no more patch for client except 'remote_group_id' work. 14:17:07 yes, I think address group isn’t ready? 14:17:54 xgerman_, Ah, no. I think it's not ready. 14:18:46 honestly it would be nice if you include more information which explains feature dependency in the server side (in the client patch) 14:19:16 it is sometime difficult to track the dependencies during client reviews. 14:20:06 ok, will add a depends-on… it’s my first client patch in a long while 14:20:06 xgerman_: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571331/ ready in the server side or is there any dependency? 14:20:13 amotoki, +1 Adding 'Depends-On' topic is more easier to track. 14:20:30 plus blueprint or bug links would be helpful 14:20:37 amotoki: the plugin works — just need to get the driver going 14:21:02 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521207/ 14:21:07 driver 14:21:12 I think we can evaluate the progress around R-3 if the feature has not completed then 14:21:28 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564888/ 14:21:43 amotoki: +1 14:22:27 if it is highly possible to land in RC phase, we can land a client patch if an API/DB patch has landed. 14:22:49 yeah, DB/API are done 14:23:25 my understanding is same. I hope the driver stuff lands soon :) 14:23:40 +1 14:23:46 :-) 14:23:55 +1 14:23:59 +1 14:24:01 ok, logging — is this still landing in R? 14:24:18 spec 14:24:21 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509725/ 14:24:41 the spec is merged — will we get the implementation? 14:24:58 Yes, I think it is possible to landing in R with L3 side. 14:25:09 great 14:25:10 yushiro, +1 14:25:12 s/landing/land 14:25:55 the spec covers both L2 and L3 side. L3 side only? 14:27:10 amotoki, Spec covers both L2 and L3. In this cycle, we're trying to support L3 logging(FWG on router) only. And L2 will be added in Stein. 14:27:37 yushiro, +1 14:28:19 yushiro: okay, so should https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/extend-logging-to-fwassv2.0 be targeted to Stein? 14:28:53 this is just a question from the project management perspective. 14:29:04 amotoki, Ah, yes. You're right. 14:29:43 thanks. there is nothing to block to land L3 stuff in Rokcy :) 14:30:03 Yas 14:30:13 amotoki, yeah. thanks. 14:30:15 oops, sorry. It is mixed 'Ya' and 'Yes' 14:30:41 seems a new version of 'yes' :) 14:30:50 Haha 14:32:19 #link https://review.openstack.org/557137 14:32:24 that’s the address group sepc 14:33:22 I am confused about the l2 drivers without iptables. 14:33:50 l2 is ovs 14:33:58 +1 14:34:05 by odl rules? 14:34:15 neutron migrated fro linux bridge -> ovs and we only made an ovs version 14:34:21 wkite, by OVS flow rules 14:34:38 i see 14:35:22 I have been very busy recently, so I have no time to study this. 14:36:35 ok, I think we need to merge the spec first — is there a deadline we need to hit so we cna think Rocky or would it better to defer that feature to Stein-1? 14:36:45 wkite, annp__, and chandan are good teacher about that :) 14:36:47 aka is there a spec freeze for neutron? 14:37:06 * xgerman_ will need their help, too 14:37:17 yushiro, :) 14:37:39 yushiro thx for remind 14:37:56 wkite, I was busy too. I'm sorry I couldn't review your SPEC. But I will do it!! 14:37:56 wkite, If you need some help free feel reach out me :) 14:38:48 annp__, +1 14:38:54 annp__: thank you 14:39:32 wkite, you're welcome. :) 14:40:14 amotoki: do we have a neutron spec freeze? 14:40:50 xgerman_: there is no deadline for specs. doublle-checking to mlavalle 14:41:15 no deadline 14:41:29 we have only feature freeze as usual 14:41:34 yes 14:41:40 Thanks 14:41:46 but we process specs as they come 14:41:55 ok 14:42:22 so I think address group is very ambitious for R — but we will see… 14:42:56 I think that’s all we have in flight — 14:43:09 xgerman_: The time of Rocky is a little short. 14:43:10 reminder for the cores: reviews, reviews, reviews 14:43:32 xgerman_, Nice reminder!! 14:43:37 For AG - even if we can start the implementation in R - that is good 14:43:38 wkite: yep, I think so, too - Stein is more realistic 14:43:50 xgerman_: +1 14:43:50 SridarK: +1000 14:44:01 xgerman_: +1 14:44:27 #topic Open Discussion 14:44:46 mlavalle: you have the floor (and I have something to go after) 14:44:59 Thanks! 14:45:11 Yesterday I sent this message to the ML: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131252.html 14:46:04 I am implementing multiple port bindings in Neutron. Port's port_binding in the DB model is becoming an iterable 14:46:15 and its name is changing to port_bindings 14:46:38 corresponding change to binding in the Port's OVO is happening 14:47:02 I did check with codesearch in FWaaS and thought there won't be impact 14:47:14 but I would like this team to double check 14:47:50 mlavalle: +1 - I too think we are ok but need more thought 14:47:53 mlavalle, Thanks for your information. 14:48:01 +1 14:48:05 I will hold the change until the end of next week 14:48:14 that raises the sorry state of our tempest tests… 14:48:31 But will be interesting to check out the live migration use cases at a broader level 14:48:46 xgerman_: +1 14:48:48 SridarK, +1 14:48:54 +1 14:48:58 the easy way to check is to run neutron-fwaas with these patches :) 14:49:17 amotoki: would you ping the VPNaaS in your side of the world to warn them about this? 14:49:42 mlavalle: I try them with vpnaas till the first half of next week 14:49:55 I also check their repo and think won't be impact 14:50:08 but it is good if you check 14:50:11 thanks 14:50:22 ok, I have two more things 14:50:41 for the L7 topic I found a new library nDPI 14:51:03 #link https://github.com/ntop/nDPI 14:51:32 and they have a list of protocols 14:51:34 mlavalle: i guess for us to understand what happens to ovs fwaas rules on a port in a live migration scenario 14:51:35 #link https://www.ntop.org/products/deep-packet-inspection/ndpi/ 14:52:26 SridarK: yes, we need to test that and check what SG does 14:52:31 xgeman_ +1 14:53:08 Since we are no different from SG 14:53:19 on the ovs driver 14:53:20 xgerman_, Thank you :) 14:53:33 xgerman_, wow, great. I found the license of this code was LGPLv3. Hopefully there is no problem :p 14:53:59 the first step is to check the port_binding does not break the current static setup. I think live migration support is the next step (if we have something to do) 14:54:15 s/the port_binding/the port_binding stuffs/ 14:54:17 amotoki: yes agreed 14:55:02 In order to check fwaas behavior with 'port_bindings', should we apply https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567462 in neutron? 14:55:10 Also, will talk more with Chandan and Sarath this week on Horizon so we can have a plan 14:55:20 SridarK, +1 14:55:35 i think they shd be able to attend next week 14:56:24 great 14:56:25 mlavalle: could you confirm yushiro's question above? 14:57:22 yushiro: that would work 14:57:36 mlavalle, Thanks. I see. 14:59:00 mlavalle, BTW, I wanted to meet you in Vancouver !! ( I couldn't go there ) Stay tuned in Denver :) 14:59:19 looking forward to it! 14:59:28 Yas! 14:59:52 yes! 15:00:02 ok, I have to got to another meeting 15:00:08 #endmeeting