14:00:55 <markwash> #startmeeting glance 14:00:57 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Apr 10 14:00:55 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markwash. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:58 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:01:00 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:01:37 <arnaud> o/ 14:01:39 <markwash> roll calll! 14:01:40 <markwash> o/ 14:01:44 <nikhil___> o/ 14:01:47 <ameade> o/ 14:01:48 <zhiyan> hi 14:01:58 <zhiyan> o/ 14:02:06 <markwash> hi zhiyan 14:02:20 <zhiyan> hi markwash 14:02:39 <markwash> okay lets talk about icehouse rc2 14:02:43 <markwash> #topic icehouse rc2 14:03:26 <markwash> #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/icehouse-rc2 14:03:53 <esheffie1d> o/ 14:04:08 <markwash> also 14:04:59 <markwash> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/?field.tag=icehouse-rc-potential&search=Search 14:05:05 <zhiyan> esheffie1d: hi 14:05:37 <markwash> icehouse-rc2 is supposed to go out today 14:06:25 <markwash> if you wanna see any of these or other things land, we'll need to jump on it crazy fast in terms of landing it in master and creating another branch against milestone proposed 14:06:47 <jokke_> markwash: I don't think I will have test out for that oneliner today ... I'm really not familiar enough with the testing system for that and haven't got too much suggestions either how to do that 14:07:34 <markwash> hi jokke_! 14:08:00 <markwash> let me find a link to the test stuart was talking about 14:09:41 <jokke_> markwash: the test Stuart sugggested to remove the config line would not fly ... as per my comment underneath, that test seems to verify that the function works as intended 14:10:11 <markwash> yeah I see that 14:10:21 <jokke_> so my problem is how to test that the config has actually been done at least some point 14:10:24 <markwash> I kinda thought he was meaning to say we could remove calls to that function from test setup 14:10:44 <jokke_> yeah that was his proposal, but looking the nature of that test, it would not make sense 14:11:28 <jokke_> and that seems to be the only place in v2 tests the function is called 14:11:39 <jokke_> I was hoping as well that it would have been that easy 14:12:22 <markwash> jokke_: maybe removing it from https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/tests/functional/db/test_registry.py#L25 would work? 14:12:52 <markwash> I think if we don't explicitly call that function from our functional testing of the registry db driver would be sufficient to prevent regression 14:14:34 <jokke_> markwash: that's true ... if you are happy about where the configure is called now, it would be called on the db.registry.api import 14:15:15 <jokke_> which would make that api.configure_registry_client() obsolete 14:15:38 <markwash> oh sorry, was there an issue with where the configure is called in your patch? 14:15:41 <jokke_> and ensure that the function call stays in the import level 14:15:55 <markwash> I know its a little tricky to do that stuff at import time 14:16:12 <jokke_> markwash: I did it first in the images ImageController so it would have been consistent with v1 14:16:37 <markwash> jokke_: consistency with v1 doesn't make a ton of sense here, honestly 14:16:41 <markwash> v2 doesn't always use the registry 14:16:47 <markwash> so it shouldn't hardwire registry setup 14:16:58 <markwash> v1 *does* always use the registry 14:17:04 <jokke_> fair enough and that was what we discussed with Stuart as well 14:17:09 <markwash> right 14:17:18 <markwash> so doing the configure at import time is a bit weird, however 14:17:28 <markwash> I think we don't normally import glance.db.registry.api 14:17:48 <markwash> instead we do a normal import for glance.db and then later call get_api() 14:17:50 <jokke_> it is, _but_ it seems to work and does not look horrible ;) 14:18:10 <markwash> which will do importutils.import_module('glance.db.registry.api') 14:18:21 <markwash> so the import is actually like a class constructor in the final analysis 14:18:24 <jokke_> ok 14:18:29 <markwash> still gross, I'll grant 14:18:30 <jokke_> yeah 14:18:33 <markwash> but best not to rock the boat :-) 14:18:39 <markwash> for rc2 at least! :-) 14:19:16 <jokke_> I agree ... so if we want to throw that in as it is, fine or I have couple of hours left to try to do some test hacking hoping nothing will break badly :P 14:19:42 <markwash> okay cool, thanks for that discussion jokke_ I'm glad we can probably get that item unblocked 14:19:56 <jokke_> thanks 14:20:16 <markwash> this bug is sort of on the bubble https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1285617 14:21:06 <markwash> it has a few options for fixes 14:21:08 <markwash> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77379/ 14:21:17 <markwash> and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83327/ 14:21:31 <markwash> zhiyan: that latter one is yours I believe 14:21:41 <zhiyan> markwash: yes 14:22:10 <ameade> I vote for the quick fix atm 14:22:14 <zhiyan> actually i think maybe we can land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83327/ first, then ask #77379 use "tox -egenconf" to update template conf file 14:23:09 <zhiyan> ok, if so, as ameade said, i prefer owner of #77379 just cherry-pick 383327 down to local dev env, and do "tox -egenconf" to update template conf file 14:23:13 <markwash> zhiyan: are you thinking of this for milestone-proposed icehouse-rc2 ? or for juno in general? 14:23:15 <zhiyan> IMHO 14:23:50 <zhiyan> i think rc2 needs 77379 probably 14:24:14 <markwash> okay I think I see 14:25:01 <markwash> are there other big differences that would surface if we used config sample generation, other than this db section? 14:25:29 <zhiyan> i believe there has some 14:25:46 <markwash> zhiyan: also, is there a particular reason you want to make sure the config is the same before and after switching to config sample generation? or just general consistency? 14:26:29 <zhiyan> the complete config items https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83327/1/etc/glance/glance.conf.sample 14:27:50 <ameade> i like 77379 as-is for now i think 14:27:51 <zhiyan> just for general consistency 14:27:58 <markwash> one thing I'm a tiny bit worried about is if there are options where our sample description is a lot better than our description in the option definition 14:28:18 <zhiyan> ameade: me too. but i think it miss some db related options 14:28:19 <markwash> in juno we should have some time and exposure to have someone audit the sample config for sanity and follow up with description changes in the code 14:28:48 <arnaud> +1 14:29:07 <zhiyan> markwash: ok, i'm fine to make 77379 go for rc. 14:30:20 <markwash> okay let's do another quick pass through that patch and see if there are changes that need to be made before it can land 14:30:20 <zhiyan> and i think probably it need to add missing options 14:30:51 <markwash> zhiyan: +1 14:31:15 <zhiyan> so i still think my latest comments in 77379 is useful 14:31:25 <markwash> looking 14:32:02 <markwash> I see, similar to what you said here 14:32:07 <zhiyan> markwash: and btw, in J, I'd like to figure out a way to allow Glance to support automatic generation of separated sample configuration files. 14:32:25 <markwash> except just paste the relevant sections from tox -e genconfig, rather than the whole config 14:32:33 <arnaud> zhiyan: that would be nice yes 14:32:44 <zhiyan> maybe need to leverage https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1300546 14:33:04 <markwash> okay I'll reinforce your comment in that patch 14:33:30 <markwash> but I"m worried that shi han zhang won't have time to get a fix uploaded today 14:33:55 <zhiyan> arnaud: yes, manual sync-up is boing and error-prone 14:34:03 <arnaud> yep... 14:34:22 <zhiyan> markwash: ok, i do it. 14:35:17 <markwash> zhiyan fixes all the bugs 14:35:19 <zhiyan> markwash: (after the handling for bug 1298698) 14:35:35 <markwash> if you want to share the burden I'm sure someone whose day is closer to beginning could give it a look ;-) 14:36:33 <markwash> zhiyan: but okay. . I'll be back online in about 2 hours and I'll look for and blindly approve changes 14:36:34 <zhiyan> :) 14:37:00 <markwash> anything else anyone is worried about for icehouse rc2? 14:38:01 <markwash> yay crickets! 14:38:09 <markwash> #topic open discussion 14:38:21 <markwash> so today is my "oh crap gotta catch the bus" day 14:38:25 <markwash> so I need to head out in about 10 minutes 14:38:58 <jokke_> looking good ... I think for Juno we need to get the testing bit more clear for v2 sqlalchemy/registry 14:39:36 <markwash> ameade and I had a good chat yesterday about figuring out some other solutions to the use case of rapidly populating a volume with glance image data 14:40:06 <markwash> ameade: does it still seem like image locations / fs store / image location metadata may do the trick? 14:40:11 <jokke_> I'm also bit concerned about the performance of the v2 api 14:40:33 <markwash> jokke_ hmm me too, do you have any measurements of it we could look at? 14:41:05 <ameade> markwash: i think so, one limitation though is you can only have one backend with glance, cinder however has a scheduler and things that allow spreading the load 14:41:11 <ameade> not sure how much that matters though 14:41:37 <jokke_> markwash: just quick test on our RnD cluster ... Grizzly v1 image-list on about 53k records took less than two minutes ... havana v2 + couple of backports to get reg working same data the image list took 8+ minutes 14:41:58 <zhiyan> ameade: btw, does the wiki page ready? 14:42:00 <ameade> for example, glance could only use one nfs share, but cinder can have as many as it wants and decides which to use 14:42:27 <markwash> jokke_: hmm that's no good, but i wonder if is any better with glance api talking directly to the db rather than to the v2 registry 14:42:31 <ameade> zhiyan: no 14:43:00 <jokke_> markwash: with sqlalchemy in the data_path it was still around 6min+ 14:43:08 <markwash> ameade: there is some logic in the fs driver about sharing the load among different directories on the fs, which I think may be similar 14:43:19 <markwash> jokke_: holy smokes! that's no good 14:43:41 <ameade> markwash: interesting 14:43:59 <markwash> jokke_: any theories / patches yet? :-) 14:44:01 <jokke_> markwash: I know ... just haven't had opportunity to dig into what is causing that yet 14:44:01 <zhiyan> markwash: do you like reopen https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/s3-multi-part-upload bp? i believe https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49316/ change is a worth stuff, and Masashi Ozawa really like to do it. (actually he do it in whole I cycle) 14:45:23 <markwash> zhiyan: sure, I can't find why I marked it obsolete 14:45:45 <markwash> jokke_: well I'll be very eager to hear about anything you find out! 14:45:46 <zhiyan> markwash: thanks 14:45:56 <markwash> I would like to put fixes for that into icehouse as a backport if posible 14:46:07 <jokke_> markwash: will let you know as soon as I do 14:46:11 <markwash> okay, gotta run folks, thanks so much for this very tactical meeting! 14:46:14 <markwash> #endmeeting