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14:02:14 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Dec 18 14:02:14 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is nikhil_k. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:02:15 <ativelkov> o/
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14:02:18 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
14:02:23 <pennerc> o/
14:02:27 <nikhil_k> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda
14:02:27 <kragniz> o/
14:02:35 <rosmaita> o/
14:02:44 <sigmavirus24> o/
14:03:05 <ivasilevskaya> o/
14:03:07 <mfedosin> Y
14:03:07 <nikhil_k> #topic Gate
14:03:40 <lakshmiS> o/
14:03:41 <nikhil_k> Last checked the job was running okay however, a bit slow
14:03:59 <ativelkov> Is that about version issues for SQL Alchemy?
14:04:03 <kragniz> nikhil_k: for glanceclient, also?
14:04:06 <ativelkov> or somth different?
14:04:33 <jokke_> nikhil_k: looks like we started to hit those client gating issues last night bit more
14:04:34 <nikhil_k> kragniz: oh, not for client. Was just worried about k1 atm
14:04:38 <kragniz> nikhil_k: kk
14:04:53 <nikhil_k> jokke_: gotcha
14:05:06 <nikhil_k> ativelkov: yes, the same
14:05:08 <jokke_> nikhil_k: do we have something that needs babysitting what k1 is waiting?
14:05:53 <nikhil_k> jokke_: yes, the next topic
14:06:21 <nikhil_k> wanted to ask if anyone had anything besides k1 that was waiting for the gate
14:06:31 <nikhil_k> this may be a good time to bring that up
14:06:47 * nikhil_k needs to email SHA for k1 this afternoon
14:07:28 <nikhil_k> #topic K1
14:07:35 <nikhil_k> https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/kilo-1
14:08:10 <nikhil_k> #help please review https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1400966 for the unmerged PS
14:08:24 <nikhil_k> this one is important for us
14:08:40 <jokke_> sigmavirus24: how long until we have the doc changes for the glance-manage.conf?
14:08:45 <nikhil_k> currently, the unmerged PS are outside of K1 so there is no timeline for us to target
14:08:47 <sigmavirus24> jokke_: working on them right now :)
14:08:57 <jokke_> sigmavirus24: good
14:09:00 <kragniz> jokke_: is that a blocker for k1?
14:09:09 <nikhil_k> yes
14:09:20 <nikhil_k> unless we cannot approve it today
14:09:20 <jokke_> kragniz: it's on the list and I'd like to see it making it ;)
14:09:23 <kragniz> (I mean docs, not the bp)
14:09:33 <zhiyan> https://review.openstack.org/142788
14:09:33 <nikhil_k> docs should be in the same PS
14:09:37 <kragniz> nikhil_k: okay
14:09:38 <jokke_> ++
14:09:47 <nikhil_k> with the DocImpact flag
14:10:34 <nikhil_k> #info review items https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/metadefs-tags , https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/create-glance-manage-conf
14:10:55 <zhiyan> but, btw, i consider probably stable/havana need to be fixed as well.
14:11:12 <nikhil_k> is there anything else like a bug or small patch which may have been missed to be marked for k1?
14:11:36 <nikhil_k> zhiyan: you can tag that bug for potential stable/havana
14:11:49 <nikhil_k> we will know more in the discussion then
14:12:01 <zhiyan> sure
14:12:12 <nikhil_k> #topic Holidays and schedule
14:12:15 <mfedosin> it'll be cool to add this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139996/ but I don't insist
14:12:44 <jokke_> nikhil_k: do I -1 this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125760/ or kick it under the train and make the PS to fix few things in there?
14:13:24 <nikhil_k> mfedosin: ok, have tagged https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1400366 for k1
14:13:33 <jokke_> nikhil_k: I think I kick it under the train ... are more like nitpicks
14:13:34 <nikhil_k> let's see if we get some reviews on it today
14:13:41 <mfedosin> nikhil_k, good, thanks!
14:14:26 <nikhil_k> jokke_: thanks!
14:14:53 <nikhil_k> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-glance-pre-new-year-reviews
14:15:32 <nikhil_k> #action cores: please add your availability during the holiday season (if applicable)
14:16:14 <jokke_> nikhil_k: that won't be much :P
14:16:16 <nikhil_k> #info everyone: please add the links to the reviews needed sooner than Jan 5 in the etherpad above
14:16:49 <nikhil_k> jokke_: :) are you saying that the availability won't be much ?
14:17:12 <jokke_> I will be following on that doc though, but I'm hopefully tomorrow last day in office until Jan 12
14:17:50 <nikhil_k> NP, if you can confirm the same on the etherpad so that people know whom to ping
14:18:02 <jokke_> so won't be guaranteeing any times ... poke me on irc and I'll get back to stuff when I'm online
14:18:09 <jokke_> nikhil_k: will do
14:18:13 <nikhil_k> Thanks!
14:18:53 <nikhil_k> if someone knows about Stuart's availability please add the same
14:19:07 <kragniz> nikhil_k: I think he's off until the 5th
14:19:36 <sigmavirus24> I should be mostly around except for tomorrow and a day or two next week
14:19:37 <kragniz> nikhil_k: he'll probably be around a little here and there
14:21:10 <kragniz> I'll be around most of the time
14:21:16 <zhiyan> kragniz: Stuart is taking vacation already right?
14:21:20 <jokke_> rosmaita: I added you to the list, so feel free to confirm :P
14:21:29 <kragniz> zhiyan: pretty sure he is
14:22:07 <jokke_> zhiyan: yeah, we have a bit of unused holidays to burn by end of the year
14:22:09 <zhiyan> kragniz: thanks
14:22:30 <zhiyan> jokke_: understandable, enjoy them
14:23:11 <rosmaita> jokke_: thanks
14:24:44 <nikhil_k> #topic Open Discussion
14:25:06 <jokke_> nikhil_k: while you're on that ... would you mind to mark the stable folks as well if there is something urgent
14:25:25 <nikhil_k> #info There is no meeting next week i.e. on Dec 25th
14:25:57 <nikhil_k> jokke_: mark as in add their info?
14:26:06 <sigmavirus24> zhiyan: question: I know https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139775/ and your chunk_size change are related, but regardless of whether the store respects it, we should be returning 206 since it's purely related to the API
14:26:07 <nikhil_k> jokke_: or do you mean let them know?
14:26:07 <jokke_> woot?!? no X-Mas meeting :P
14:26:12 <nikhil_k> :P
14:26:13 <jokke_> nikhil_k: both :P
14:26:20 <nikhil_k> ok
14:26:49 <nikhil_k> #action nikhil_k to note down stable-maint* availability during the holiday weeks
14:27:20 <jokke_> nikhil_k: just if we get something like public sec bug that is similar criticality than the one this week we know whom to approach to get the backports in as well
14:28:13 <nikhil_k> makes sense
14:28:50 <nikhil_k> am a little hesitent to keep the meeting on Jan 1st
14:29:08 <sigmavirus24> nikhil_k: I can't possibly understand why /snark
14:29:25 <nikhil_k> however, that might be needed after a couple weeks of gap
14:29:31 <nikhil_k> sigmavirus24: heh
14:29:33 <jokke_> nikhil_k: I doubt that will have any benefit
14:29:39 <flaper87> o/
14:29:42 <sigmavirus24> \o
14:29:44 * flaper87 is a bit late, sorry about that
14:29:52 <zhiyan> sigmavirus24: from glance api's perspective, i agreed, but currently, without that change/fix, the 206 will confused end user/client
14:29:54 <sigmavirus24> it's okay. kragniz just left. so you can take his palce
14:30:10 <flaper87> lol
14:30:11 <sigmavirus24> zhiyan: they're likely already thoroughly confused
14:30:12 <nikhil_k> or we can probably have one on 2nd a very inofficial sync on #openstack-glance to get everyone upto speed
14:30:19 <zhiyan> sigmavirus24: due to, under current logic, whole bits will be returned
14:30:31 <nikhil_k> flaper87: o/
14:30:38 <flaper87> nikhil_k: yo yo!
14:30:46 * flaper87 acts as if he knew what we're talking about
14:30:48 <nikhil_k> flaper87: mind adding your availability during the holiday week https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda ?
14:30:59 * flaper87 does that
14:31:03 <nikhil_k> oops
14:31:04 <jokke_> flaper87: please fill your availability https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-glance-pre-new-year-reviews
14:31:06 <nikhil_k> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-glance-pre-new-year-reviews this one
14:31:06 <zhiyan> sigmavirus24: imo, keeping it as-is now makes more sense
14:33:02 <flaper87> done
14:33:12 <nikhil_k> flaper87: lol, 32, 33, 34! ??
14:33:24 <flaper87> :P
14:33:35 * flaper87 lives in a parallel universe
14:33:38 <sigmavirus24> flaper87: A+
14:33:40 <sigmavirus24> good calendaring
14:34:27 * flaper87 added a link
14:34:34 <flaper87> link = review
14:34:36 <flaper87> :P
14:35:25 <flaper87> knock ?
14:35:32 <nikhil_k> so, sigmavirus24 and zhiyan what's the issue behind not merging that one yet?
14:35:43 <flaper87> nikhil_k: which one ?
14:35:52 <sigmavirus24> nikhil_k: I didn't realize it but glance doesn't actually honor Range headers
14:36:04 <sigmavirus24> We have logic for parsing and doing the right thing but the stores don't respect it
14:36:05 <nikhil_k> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139775/
14:36:19 <zhiyan> glance did actually, but glance_store didn't currently
14:36:38 <flaper87> or well, glance_store does it but not very good
14:36:58 <zhiyan> flaper87: currently, only fs store driver care it, others won't
14:37:07 <flaper87> and I agree with zhiyan comments on that review
14:37:10 <flaper87> zhiyan: yup
14:37:40 <nikhil_k> ok, zhiyan can you mark it as -2 or workflow until you patch gets merged ?
14:37:58 * flaper87 will review zhiyan's patch again
14:38:03 <nikhil_k> just want to ensure we don't have another miscommunication, that's all
14:38:04 <flaper87> to speed up things
14:38:06 <zhiyan> sure
14:38:10 <zhiyan> flaper87: thanks
14:38:31 * flaper87 adds a beer to his list of 'free beers'
14:39:02 * jokke_ tosses couple of tequilas to flaper87
14:39:12 <nikhil_k> If there is nothing else, we can conclude the meeting early
14:39:22 <zhiyan> btw, nikhil_k i added it to  trello board, as a review item for glance_stroe 0.1.11 release
14:39:23 <flaper87> nikhil_k: o/
14:39:36 <flaper87> I've a question w.r.t the glance_store spec :)
14:39:45 <flaper87> that can be open discussion :P
14:39:45 <zhiyan> flaper87: surething, what about BaiJiu ^^
14:39:49 <nikhil_k> zhiyan: awesome, thanks!
14:40:08 <nikhil_k> ok
14:40:09 <flaper87> zhiyan: +1
14:40:14 <nikhil_k> flaper87: please go ahead
14:40:30 <flaper87> The question is: What's the current take on that? Can we complete the review on tha spec and move the work forward?
14:40:46 <flaper87> I'm basically speaking on cpallares' behalf since she's not here
14:41:00 <flaper87> I know she's got some work done but some things depend on what we'll agree on that spec
14:41:17 <flaper87> k-1 is over and it hasn't gotten enough attention
14:42:40 <nikhil_k> Cool, for open discussion it's good that you pointed out. Would be great to get some general reviews on it!
14:43:08 * jokke_ is still waiting for a link *tapetitap*
14:43:10 <ativelkov> nikhil_k: any news from TC about the Glance Future stuff?
14:43:18 <nikhil_k> She pinged me a couple days back and asked for review on the spec and our understanding is to sync up early next week after k1
14:43:30 <flaper87> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126550/
14:43:36 <nikhil_k> and on that note
14:43:40 <nikhil_k> k1 is not over yet!
14:44:14 <flaper87> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule
14:44:23 <flaper87> The cut should be today (modulo issues)
14:44:28 <jokke_> TravT: an hour late again
14:44:30 <nikhil_k> We need reviews on that patched waiting to merge in k1. The links are in the meeting agenda and would be visible on the meeting logs.
14:44:33 <flaper87> what I meant is that it won't get done for k1
14:44:45 <TravT> jokke_: hi jokke_
14:44:50 <nikhil_k> yes, it's target was k2
14:45:09 <flaper87> its original target was k-1, FWIW
14:45:12 <nikhil_k> May be a miscommunication between 3 of us
14:45:45 <nikhil_k> it was postponed 2-3 weeks ago! and she was okay with it
14:45:48 <zhiyan> nikhil_k: does glance_store need to follow main project's release schedule?
14:45:54 <flaper87> on that note, I think there have been few miscomunications lately and I'd like everyone to use more the mailing list when things involve more than 2 people
14:46:07 <flaper87> I'd like to encourage*
14:46:07 <nikhil_k> zhiyan: no, but the refactor on that big level should
14:46:13 <nikhil_k> so that we do not break things
14:47:10 <jokke_> nikhil_k: fwiw https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/swift-store-multiple-containers is merged
14:47:42 <nikhil_k> This item was outside of the ML discussion and k1 items were announced on the meeting agenda and input was requested well before hand
14:48:22 <nikhil_k> jokke_: ah thanks for the reminder. Need to clean up that k1 page
14:48:38 * jokke_ prefers the meetings ... it's way too easy to get lost in that spam flood on the mailing list
14:48:58 <flaper87> jokke_: there are too many things related to just discussing things on meetings
14:49:39 <nikhil_k> flaper87: saw your k1 cut question. It is going to happen when the SHA is communicated to the release manager. That has not happened yet (fyi)
14:50:18 <flaper87> nikhil_k: I know
14:50:55 <nikhil_k> basically, if you need attention from focussed group of individual of glance team, meeting is the best place to start
14:51:03 <nikhil_k> and say that you need more input on the same
14:51:20 <nikhil_k> declaration on ML is likely going to get friction later in the cycle
14:51:34 <nikhil_k> and is very inefficient
14:51:58 <flaper87> Wait, I think you got me wrong. I wasn't complaining I was asking for attention
14:52:50 <flaper87> (which I had done before on the same patch, FWIW). As much as I hate emails, I think it's a good solution for all the TZ issues we have and personal priorities
14:53:26 <flaper87> anyway, what I wanted to say is that we should value emails as much as we value our IRC meetings
14:53:31 <flaper87> just a thought
14:53:56 <jokke_> flaper87: it seems to be community decision to make that really difficult :D
14:55:00 <jokke_> Anything else?
14:55:09 * jokke_ will look into that spec in few
14:57:04 <TravT> flaper87: others.  I sent an email out asking if we know of any reason I shouldn't start migrating horizon to v2 api in client.
14:57:29 <flaper87> TravT: I think it'd be a good thing to do
14:57:36 <flaper87> TravT: let me know if you run into problems
14:57:41 <TravT> Ok.
14:57:46 <nikhil_k> TravT: as long as Horizon does not use nova-image-* calls
14:58:10 <TravT> I actually got a big patch through last night on Horizon and it included a tiny baby step towards that migration.
14:58:24 <nikhil_k> ^ that would add inconsistencies
14:59:10 <TravT> just code reading, i'm not sure that pagination will work in v2.
14:59:18 <TravT> but i haven't actually tried it
15:00:22 <TravT> nikhil_k, are the meetings cancelled over the next couple weeks for the holidays?
15:00:29 <nikhil_k> Thanks all! Happy holidays and a new year! Next meeting in 2015!
15:00:32 <jokke_> Happy holidays everyone ... enjoy your mulled wines and lets get back fresh at Jan!
15:00:39 <TravT> Happy holiday!
15:00:45 <flaper87> Happy Holidays
15:00:50 <nikhil_k> #endmeeting