14:00:31 <flaper87> #startmeeting Glance
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14:00:35 <jokke_> o/
14:00:36 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
14:00:41 <flaper87> yooooooooooooooooooooooo
14:00:42 <mfedosin> o/
14:00:47 <hemanthm> o/
14:00:49 <kragniz> o/
14:00:52 <flaper87> #topic Agenda
14:00:55 <flaper87> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda
14:01:06 <flaper87> Hello Glancers
14:01:11 <flaper87> nice to have you all around
14:01:17 <flaper87> Let's get to it
14:01:17 <avarner> ol
14:01:20 <avarner> o/
14:01:22 <tjcocozz> o/
14:01:22 <flaper87> #topic Glare Updates
14:01:26 <flaper87> mfedosin: go crazy
14:01:45 <mfedosin> so, we're working on Glare's code
14:02:07 <mfedosin> currently it's possible to work with images in parallel with Glance
14:02:24 <mfedosin> i.e. create, update, upload, downlod etc
14:02:32 <rosmaita> o/
14:02:51 <mfedosin> in 1 hour I will present a demo how it works
14:03:13 <flaper87> mfedosin: link?
14:03:14 <mfedosin> unfortunately it's inner mirantis demo
14:03:23 <flaper87> crap
14:03:25 <flaper87> :(
14:03:27 <flaper87> ok
14:03:31 <mfedosin> yes :(
14:03:46 <mfedosin> but we can organize public next week
14:03:54 <mfedosin> on Friday for example
14:04:06 <flaper87> mfedosin: I think that'd be cool
14:04:10 <mfedosin> also, today's demo will be recorded
14:04:25 <rosmaita> +1 for public demo
14:04:30 <tjcocozz> ++
14:04:33 <flaper87> mfedosin: if the recordings can be made public and they're not in russian, I think that should do it
14:04:37 <mfedosin> and if you understand Russian I can share youtube link
14:04:39 <flaper87> :P
14:04:42 <flaper87> crap
14:04:43 <flaper87> >.>
14:04:46 <flaper87> I KNEW IT!
14:04:50 <jokke_> ;)
14:04:52 <flaper87> See? I know this Glance's tam
14:05:00 <flaper87> team*
14:05:05 <flaper87> ok, let's move on
14:05:06 <jokke_> Can't have 'em
14:05:07 <flaper87> anything else?
14:05:07 <tjcocozz> I think youtube can do some translation in the cc
14:05:26 <flaper87> tjcocozz: I'd rather have a dedicated demo for the Glance team... in English
14:05:27 <flaper87> :D
14:05:33 <mfedosin> it's easier to organize another ublic demo next week
14:05:35 <flaper87> "dedicated" as in "public"
14:05:41 <tjcocozz> flaper87, I would like to see a demo as well!
14:05:57 <flaper87> ok, anything else?
14:06:10 <mfedosin> anyway, I'll post the link in glance channel
14:06:34 <mfedosin> and a link to russain-english dictionary
14:06:35 <flaper87> thanks
14:06:45 <rosmaita> :)
14:07:08 <flaper87> #topic Updates cross-prj
14:07:10 <rosmaita> благодарю
14:07:14 <flaper87> nikhil: around ?
14:07:20 <mfedosin> не за что
14:07:37 * flaper87 slaps rosmaita and mfedosin with a Russian dictionary
14:07:57 <flaper87> ok, I guess nikhil is not around
14:08:00 <flaper87> skipping this topic
14:08:11 <flaper87> #topic Glance PTL Nominations
14:08:16 <flaper87> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/newton/Glance/Nikhil_Komawar.txt
14:08:19 <flaper87> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/newton/Glance/Stuart_McLaren.txt
14:08:30 <flaper87> please, abstain from promoting anyone
14:08:43 <flaper87> Both, Stuart and Nikhil, sent their candidacy
14:08:52 <rosmaita> should we hold a debate?
14:08:56 <flaper87> I wanted to thank them both for doing so. It's a huge responsibility to take on
14:09:14 <jokke_> The nominations are open still for 9hrs if someone else would like to give it a go as well
14:09:18 <flaper87> rosmaita: I'd rather keep it simple... Let's do a "beer offering contest"
14:09:28 <flaper87> so, yeah, what jokke_ said
14:09:36 <jokke_> conveniently both are MIA ;)
14:09:56 <flaper87> We have 2 candidates so far and I think it's healthy for projects to have votings
14:10:01 <rosmaita> +1
14:10:07 <flaper87> so, as far as my elections concerns go, I'm happy already
14:10:12 <flaper87> More candidate would be awesome
14:10:27 <flaper87> and if you folks need help, I'd be happy to help you set up things in a partial way
14:10:33 <flaper87> anyway, that's it on this topic
14:10:34 <nikhil> flaper87: hey, sorry a bit late. under the weather today. there're no major CPL updates.
14:10:38 <flaper87> actually, that's not it
14:11:06 <flaper87> If you have questions for our candidates, you should feel free to send them to the ML, preferably once the nominations are closed
14:11:48 <flaper87> I'd recommend sending those questions early in the voting week so that the candidates will have time to answer before other folks vote
14:11:55 <flaper87> ok, that's it.. for realz
14:12:02 <flaper87> any questions?
14:12:23 <flaper87> #topic Glance RC1 is out
14:12:28 <flaper87> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance/tag/?h=12.0.0.0rc1
14:12:33 <flaper87> Glance RC1 is out
14:12:43 <jokke_> \\o \o/ o// o/7
14:12:46 <flaper87> Glance was the first project to be tagged... I don't think that means much but it's a cool stat
14:12:49 <flaper87> hahahhaa
14:12:56 <nikhil> it's indeed
14:12:59 <flaper87> Thanks to everyone for working hard on the RC1
14:13:14 <flaper87> Several fixes went in and some of them were critical enough
14:13:47 <flaper87> Now, let's work on getting a nice RC2. One thing about RC2 is that we don't necessarily need it. If there are not fixes that are worth an RC then we should not backport them
14:14:20 <flaper87> What I mean is, let's focus on fixing *critical* things if there are, otherwise we can just skip the RC2 if there are none
14:14:51 <flaper87> I hardly doubt there are no critical issues but ... :P
14:14:58 <flaper87> hope is free
14:15:05 <flaper87> Ok, questions?
14:15:06 <nikhil> I had the transaction patch in mind for RC2 if darja is still working on that
14:15:20 <flaper87> nikhil: yup, that one would be a great candidate
14:15:28 <flaper87> let's tag things with glance-RC2
14:15:31 <mfedosin> nikhil: we decided to postpone this commit
14:15:33 <flaper87> erm, let's use that topic*
14:15:37 <mfedosin> transaction layer
14:15:53 <nikhil> mfedosin: glad to know. I will ignore it then today.
14:16:03 <mfedosin> there are a lot of work to do and manu optimizations are possible
14:16:07 <nikhil> (just very low on b/w)
14:16:14 <flaper87> If you find patches that are glance-RC2 candidates, feel free to change the topic
14:16:16 <mfedosin> nikhil: yeah, don't bother
14:16:29 <flaper87> ok, anything else? Should we move on?
14:17:13 <flaper87> #topic Glance client Liberty released
14:17:20 <flaper87> #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-glanceclient/tag/?h=1.1.1
14:17:33 <jokke_> \\o \o/ o// o/7
14:17:34 <flaper87> Ok, python-glanceclient liberty has been tagged
14:17:43 <flaper87> please, keep an eye on gates and users :D
14:17:50 <flaper87> Thanks to jokke_ for managing the release again
14:17:55 <jokke_> it was a big one, sorry
14:18:04 <flaper87> Questions? Comments?
14:18:43 <flaper87> #topic jokke_ stepping down as liaison
14:18:48 <flaper87> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089566.html
14:19:06 <flaper87> I just wanted to give you all a heads up and to take the chance to thank jokke_ for all his work
14:19:19 <flaper87> Thanks jokke_ for all your work as a stable liaison and a release liaison
14:19:23 <jokke_> :)
14:19:25 <rosmaita> jokke_: thank you!
14:19:31 <nikhil> sad to hear that he's stepping down
14:19:34 <flaper87> You made managing Glance way easier and more afordable from a time perspective
14:19:46 <flaper87> Huge help, HUGE!
14:19:47 <nikhil> but definitely BIG kudos to all the work over many cycles
14:19:59 <jokke_> thanks ... has been good run, so if there is anyone who is willing to learn the process ... feel free to ping me. Happy to help
14:20:10 <flaper87> now, we need a new volunteer
14:20:16 <nikhil> :D
14:20:26 <flaper87> and jokke_ is happy to help with the on boarding process
14:20:46 <flaper87> If you'd like to help out with that, the Glance team and the next PTL will thank you
14:21:10 <jokke_> yeah, so just that ye all know ... I'm not gonna disappear next week or anything. Just running out of hours/day
14:21:11 <flaper87> As a PTL I can tell you it's a huge help to have someone looking after stable branches and helping out with releases
14:21:17 <flaper87> it's a fun job to do, FWIW
14:21:23 <flaper87> I used to do that as well
14:21:25 <jokke_> getting old and I need my sleep as well ;)
14:21:40 <flaper87> s/sleep/beer/
14:21:43 <nikhil> jokke_: ++
14:22:04 <flaper87> Anyway, please, do step up!
14:22:12 <jokke_> flaper87: that I have been prioritizing over sleep
14:22:17 <flaper87> questions? Comments? volunteers ?
14:22:42 <nikhil> flaper87: let's wait for another week on volunteers. I think those who wish to may not be here.
14:23:00 <flaper87> oh, I'm not planning to close this here
14:23:06 <nikhil> or just send a ML email if you want to -operators
14:23:08 <flaper87> I mean, people can volunteer at any time during the cycle
14:23:12 <nikhil> (as well)
14:23:15 <flaper87> it doesn't have a date or anything
14:23:51 <rosmaita> jokke_: is there a writeup somewhere on what the release manager does?
14:24:04 * flaper87 volunteers rosmaita
14:24:19 * rosmaita hides
14:24:27 <nikhil> this is stable stuff
14:24:28 <jokke_> rosmaita: not really ... there is the project team guide release section
14:24:29 <nikhil> #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html
14:24:50 <nikhil> #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html
14:25:03 <jokke_> rosmaita: but the release stuff has been quite elastic over past couple of cycles when the release team has been automating the process
14:25:11 <jokke_> so it's getting easier for everyone
14:25:20 <rosmaita> that's a plus!
14:25:53 <jokke_> dhellmann and folks there at the release side has done huge work to rationalize that process
14:26:15 <flaper87> yeah, it's become super easy to tag releases
14:26:42 <jokke_> #agreed rosmaita voluntold for all the liaisons
14:26:56 <jokke_> :P
14:27:02 <flaper87> #agreed flaper87 agrees with jokke_
14:27:04 <rosmaita> i just want to continue in my current role as general PITA
14:27:06 <flaper87> #undo
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14:27:07 <flaper87> :P
14:27:30 <flaper87> rosmaita: oh, you can do that as well. Haven't you seen jokke_'s work?
14:27:32 <flaper87> :P
14:27:44 <rosmaita> :)
14:27:56 <jokke_> rosmaita: they are definitely not exclusive from each other
14:28:00 <flaper87> ok, moving on unless there are other questions
14:28:30 <flaper87> #topic Open Discussion
14:28:46 <nikhil> I think we need to send the etherpad for summit session as a email to ML
14:29:01 <jokke_> ++
14:29:14 <nikhil> I've not seen one for Glance yet or for Cross project -- something that I was looking for when stumbled on other emails
14:29:45 <nikhil> but no pressure flaper87, I realize the release has been quite hectic. Just pointing out that we'd.
14:30:11 <flaper87> Yeah, I actually forgot to send that out. I will do that today
14:30:14 <flaper87> thanks for the heads up
14:30:16 <rosmaita> flaper87: should i put up a patch to move image import spec from mitaka/approved to newton/approved ?
14:30:23 <flaper87> There are so many sessions in there
14:30:25 <flaper87> hahaha
14:30:34 <nikhil> I know
14:30:51 <nikhil> we need to redact some soon but will be good to do that in the full list
14:30:58 <flaper87> rosmaita: What I've been doing is "linking" the Mitaka (unimplemented) specs in newton/approved
14:31:11 <flaper87> that way we know they were approved in Mitaka and moved to Newton
14:31:27 <jokke_> rosmaita & all: would it make sense copy the refactor spec to Newton and make a note in the Mitaka one that the work continues?
14:31:28 <flaper87> Now that RC1 is out, I'm planning to start discussing the summit in our next meeting
14:31:44 <flaper87> as in, start talking about the sessions we want
14:31:50 <flaper87> like 2 to 3 sessions per meeting
14:32:10 <jokke_> I think all the work on that kind of deserves recognition (and documentation that it has been worked on Mitaka for future generations)
14:32:35 <flaper87> jokke_: I've started to use symlinks between the mitaka/approved and newton/approved
14:32:35 <rosmaita> jokke_: i think so, because there will need to be some patches on the spec to keep it up to date with changes in some of the calls
14:32:43 <flaper87> that way we know the spec was approved in Mitaka
14:32:48 <flaper87> I guess we could add a note too
14:32:54 <flaper87> That won't hurt for sure
14:33:03 <jokke_> ++
14:33:20 <nikhil> sym link should work too, but it'd be nice to have separate ones for closure on a release
14:33:30 <jokke_> just a thought with these big long runners that it could be worth of keeping around rather than just move the spec
14:33:40 <flaper87> This import refactor is going to consume lot of time in Newton... It has to be our top priority
14:33:44 <flaper87> nikhil: what do you mean?
14:33:57 <flaper87> the problem with a separate one is that we loose updates and stuff
14:34:12 <nikhil> flaper87: I was thinking of adding a history section later or updates (Nikhil_TM :P)
14:34:42 <flaper87> in my experience, those history sections are always outdated
14:34:43 <nikhil> well I just mean, it's one of those ones that gunna get questions even after a cycle after impl
14:34:50 <flaper87> let's let git handle the history for us
14:34:53 <rosmaita> the weird thing will be that any updates for newton will be patches on the mitaka/approved spec
14:34:54 <flaper87> imho
14:35:00 <nikhil> it's good to iterate and add a timestamp on the discussion and decision
14:35:08 <flaper87> rosmaita: yeah but as long as we know that, I think it's fine
14:35:11 <nikhil> so that we dont' go over a 180degree loop
14:35:42 <rosmaita> i'm ok either way, just wanted to know before i put up a patch about the "message" element/schema
14:35:45 <jokke_> flaper87: oh, that kind of history ... yeah makes sense to symlink to keep the change histry there
14:36:29 <flaper87> I guess we could discuss it in the review
14:36:38 <flaper87> I've done the symlink thing for other specs, I think
14:36:41 <flaper87> not sure if that patch landed, tbh
14:36:41 <rosmaita> (by the way, happy st patrick's day, everyone)
14:36:48 <flaper87> rosmaita: ++
14:36:55 <nikhil> happy st patrick's day!
14:37:02 <flaper87> that's why Stuart and Niall are not around
14:37:04 <flaper87> :D
14:37:13 <nikhil> aha
14:37:26 <nikhil> gone green!
14:37:38 <jokke_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89NjEeHku8o
14:37:38 <flaper87> oooooook! Anything else?
14:37:54 <jokke_> ^^ ref Stuart, Niall and St. Paddy's
14:38:33 <jokke_> I'm in Raleigh, NC so no Guiness for me
14:38:39 <flaper87> ok, Thanks everyone!
14:38:45 <jokke_> thanks!
14:38:49 <flaper87> Have a great day and an awesome weekend!
14:38:54 <flaper87> Short meeting this week
14:38:55 <nikhil> jokke_: wow, only you'd been a week earlier!
14:38:56 <flaper87> :D
14:39:05 <nikhil> we'd have met :/
14:39:19 <nikhil> now until april..
14:39:26 <nikhil> flaper87: you can close  the mtg
14:39:28 <jokke_> flaper87: remember to end the meeting as well ;)
14:39:31 <flaper87> #endmeeting