14:00:31 #startmeeting Glance 14:00:32 Meeting started Thu Mar 17 14:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is flaper87. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:35 o/ 14:00:36 The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:00:41 yooooooooooooooooooooooo 14:00:42 o/ 14:00:47 o/ 14:00:49 o/ 14:00:52 #topic Agenda 14:00:55 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda 14:01:06 Hello Glancers 14:01:11 nice to have you all around 14:01:17 Let's get to it 14:01:17 ol 14:01:20 o/ 14:01:22 o/ 14:01:22 #topic Glare Updates 14:01:26 mfedosin: go crazy 14:01:45 so, we're working on Glare's code 14:02:07 currently it's possible to work with images in parallel with Glance 14:02:24 i.e. create, update, upload, downlod etc 14:02:32 o/ 14:02:51 in 1 hour I will present a demo how it works 14:03:13 mfedosin: link? 14:03:14 unfortunately it's inner mirantis demo 14:03:23 crap 14:03:25 :( 14:03:27 ok 14:03:31 yes :( 14:03:46 but we can organize public next week 14:03:54 on Friday for example 14:04:06 mfedosin: I think that'd be cool 14:04:10 also, today's demo will be recorded 14:04:25 +1 for public demo 14:04:30 ++ 14:04:33 mfedosin: if the recordings can be made public and they're not in russian, I think that should do it 14:04:37 and if you understand Russian I can share youtube link 14:04:39 :P 14:04:42 crap 14:04:43 >.> 14:04:46 I KNEW IT! 14:04:50 ;) 14:04:52 See? I know this Glance's tam 14:05:00 team* 14:05:05 ok, let's move on 14:05:06 Can't have 'em 14:05:07 anything else? 14:05:07 I think youtube can do some translation in the cc 14:05:26 tjcocozz: I'd rather have a dedicated demo for the Glance team... in English 14:05:27 :D 14:05:33 it's easier to organize another ublic demo next week 14:05:35 "dedicated" as in "public" 14:05:41 flaper87, I would like to see a demo as well! 14:05:57 ok, anything else? 14:06:10 anyway, I'll post the link in glance channel 14:06:34 and a link to russain-english dictionary 14:06:35 thanks 14:06:45 :) 14:07:08 #topic Updates cross-prj 14:07:10 благодарю 14:07:14 nikhil: around ? 14:07:20 не за что 14:07:37 * flaper87 slaps rosmaita and mfedosin with a Russian dictionary 14:07:57 ok, I guess nikhil is not around 14:08:00 skipping this topic 14:08:11 #topic Glance PTL Nominations 14:08:16 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/newton/Glance/Nikhil_Komawar.txt 14:08:19 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/election/plain/candidates/newton/Glance/Stuart_McLaren.txt 14:08:30 please, abstain from promoting anyone 14:08:43 Both, Stuart and Nikhil, sent their candidacy 14:08:52 should we hold a debate? 14:08:56 I wanted to thank them both for doing so. It's a huge responsibility to take on 14:09:14 The nominations are open still for 9hrs if someone else would like to give it a go as well 14:09:18 rosmaita: I'd rather keep it simple... Let's do a "beer offering contest" 14:09:28 so, yeah, what jokke_ said 14:09:36 conveniently both are MIA ;) 14:09:56 We have 2 candidates so far and I think it's healthy for projects to have votings 14:10:01 +1 14:10:07 so, as far as my elections concerns go, I'm happy already 14:10:12 More candidate would be awesome 14:10:27 and if you folks need help, I'd be happy to help you set up things in a partial way 14:10:33 anyway, that's it on this topic 14:10:34 flaper87: hey, sorry a bit late. under the weather today. there're no major CPL updates. 14:10:38 actually, that's not it 14:11:06 If you have questions for our candidates, you should feel free to send them to the ML, preferably once the nominations are closed 14:11:48 I'd recommend sending those questions early in the voting week so that the candidates will have time to answer before other folks vote 14:11:55 ok, that's it.. for realz 14:12:02 any questions? 14:12:23 #topic Glance RC1 is out 14:12:28 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/glance/tag/?h=12.0.0.0rc1 14:12:33 Glance RC1 is out 14:12:43 \\o \o/ o// o/7 14:12:46 Glance was the first project to be tagged... I don't think that means much but it's a cool stat 14:12:49 hahahhaa 14:12:56 it's indeed 14:12:59 Thanks to everyone for working hard on the RC1 14:13:14 Several fixes went in and some of them were critical enough 14:13:47 Now, let's work on getting a nice RC2. One thing about RC2 is that we don't necessarily need it. If there are not fixes that are worth an RC then we should not backport them 14:14:20 What I mean is, let's focus on fixing *critical* things if there are, otherwise we can just skip the RC2 if there are none 14:14:51 I hardly doubt there are no critical issues but ... :P 14:14:58 hope is free 14:15:05 Ok, questions? 14:15:06 I had the transaction patch in mind for RC2 if darja is still working on that 14:15:20 nikhil: yup, that one would be a great candidate 14:15:28 let's tag things with glance-RC2 14:15:31 nikhil: we decided to postpone this commit 14:15:33 erm, let's use that topic* 14:15:37 transaction layer 14:15:53 mfedosin: glad to know. I will ignore it then today. 14:16:03 there are a lot of work to do and manu optimizations are possible 14:16:07 (just very low on b/w) 14:16:14 If you find patches that are glance-RC2 candidates, feel free to change the topic 14:16:16 nikhil: yeah, don't bother 14:16:29 ok, anything else? Should we move on? 14:17:13 #topic Glance client Liberty released 14:17:20 #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-glanceclient/tag/?h=1.1.1 14:17:33 \\o \o/ o// o/7 14:17:34 Ok, python-glanceclient liberty has been tagged 14:17:43 please, keep an eye on gates and users :D 14:17:50 Thanks to jokke_ for managing the release again 14:17:55 it was a big one, sorry 14:18:04 Questions? Comments? 14:18:43 #topic jokke_ stepping down as liaison 14:18:48 #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089566.html 14:19:06 I just wanted to give you all a heads up and to take the chance to thank jokke_ for all his work 14:19:19 Thanks jokke_ for all your work as a stable liaison and a release liaison 14:19:23 :) 14:19:25 jokke_: thank you! 14:19:31 sad to hear that he's stepping down 14:19:34 You made managing Glance way easier and more afordable from a time perspective 14:19:46 Huge help, HUGE! 14:19:47 but definitely BIG kudos to all the work over many cycles 14:19:59 thanks ... has been good run, so if there is anyone who is willing to learn the process ... feel free to ping me. Happy to help 14:20:10 now, we need a new volunteer 14:20:16 :D 14:20:26 and jokke_ is happy to help with the on boarding process 14:20:46 If you'd like to help out with that, the Glance team and the next PTL will thank you 14:21:10 yeah, so just that ye all know ... I'm not gonna disappear next week or anything. Just running out of hours/day 14:21:11 As a PTL I can tell you it's a huge help to have someone looking after stable branches and helping out with releases 14:21:17 it's a fun job to do, FWIW 14:21:23 I used to do that as well 14:21:25 getting old and I need my sleep as well ;) 14:21:40 s/sleep/beer/ 14:21:43 jokke_: ++ 14:22:04 Anyway, please, do step up! 14:22:12 flaper87: that I have been prioritizing over sleep 14:22:17 questions? Comments? volunteers ? 14:22:42 flaper87: let's wait for another week on volunteers. I think those who wish to may not be here. 14:23:00 oh, I'm not planning to close this here 14:23:06 or just send a ML email if you want to -operators 14:23:08 I mean, people can volunteer at any time during the cycle 14:23:12 (as well) 14:23:15 it doesn't have a date or anything 14:23:51 jokke_: is there a writeup somewhere on what the release manager does? 14:24:04 * flaper87 volunteers rosmaita 14:24:19 * rosmaita hides 14:24:27 this is stable stuff 14:24:28 rosmaita: not really ... there is the project team guide release section 14:24:29 #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html 14:24:50 #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html 14:25:03 rosmaita: but the release stuff has been quite elastic over past couple of cycles when the release team has been automating the process 14:25:11 so it's getting easier for everyone 14:25:20 that's a plus! 14:25:53 dhellmann and folks there at the release side has done huge work to rationalize that process 14:26:15 yeah, it's become super easy to tag releases 14:26:42 #agreed rosmaita voluntold for all the liaisons 14:26:56 :P 14:27:02 #agreed flaper87 agrees with jokke_ 14:27:04 i just want to continue in my current role as general PITA 14:27:06 #undo 14:27:07 Removing item from minutes: 14:27:07 :P 14:27:30 rosmaita: oh, you can do that as well. Haven't you seen jokke_'s work? 14:27:32 :P 14:27:44 :) 14:27:56 rosmaita: they are definitely not exclusive from each other 14:28:00 ok, moving on unless there are other questions 14:28:30 #topic Open Discussion 14:28:46 I think we need to send the etherpad for summit session as a email to ML 14:29:01 ++ 14:29:14 I've not seen one for Glance yet or for Cross project -- something that I was looking for when stumbled on other emails 14:29:45 but no pressure flaper87, I realize the release has been quite hectic. Just pointing out that we'd. 14:30:11 Yeah, I actually forgot to send that out. I will do that today 14:30:14 thanks for the heads up 14:30:16 flaper87: should i put up a patch to move image import spec from mitaka/approved to newton/approved ? 14:30:23 There are so many sessions in there 14:30:25 hahaha 14:30:34 I know 14:30:51 we need to redact some soon but will be good to do that in the full list 14:30:58 rosmaita: What I've been doing is "linking" the Mitaka (unimplemented) specs in newton/approved 14:31:11 that way we know they were approved in Mitaka and moved to Newton 14:31:27 rosmaita & all: would it make sense copy the refactor spec to Newton and make a note in the Mitaka one that the work continues? 14:31:28 Now that RC1 is out, I'm planning to start discussing the summit in our next meeting 14:31:44 as in, start talking about the sessions we want 14:31:50 like 2 to 3 sessions per meeting 14:32:10 I think all the work on that kind of deserves recognition (and documentation that it has been worked on Mitaka for future generations) 14:32:35 jokke_: I've started to use symlinks between the mitaka/approved and newton/approved 14:32:35 jokke_: i think so, because there will need to be some patches on the spec to keep it up to date with changes in some of the calls 14:32:43 that way we know the spec was approved in Mitaka 14:32:48 I guess we could add a note too 14:32:54 That won't hurt for sure 14:33:03 ++ 14:33:20 sym link should work too, but it'd be nice to have separate ones for closure on a release 14:33:30 just a thought with these big long runners that it could be worth of keeping around rather than just move the spec 14:33:40 This import refactor is going to consume lot of time in Newton... It has to be our top priority 14:33:44 nikhil: what do you mean? 14:33:57 the problem with a separate one is that we loose updates and stuff 14:34:12 flaper87: I was thinking of adding a history section later or updates (Nikhil_TM :P) 14:34:42 in my experience, those history sections are always outdated 14:34:43 well I just mean, it's one of those ones that gunna get questions even after a cycle after impl 14:34:50 let's let git handle the history for us 14:34:53 the weird thing will be that any updates for newton will be patches on the mitaka/approved spec 14:34:54 imho 14:35:00 it's good to iterate and add a timestamp on the discussion and decision 14:35:08 rosmaita: yeah but as long as we know that, I think it's fine 14:35:11 so that we dont' go over a 180degree loop 14:35:42 i'm ok either way, just wanted to know before i put up a patch about the "message" element/schema 14:35:45 flaper87: oh, that kind of history ... yeah makes sense to symlink to keep the change histry there 14:36:29 I guess we could discuss it in the review 14:36:38 I've done the symlink thing for other specs, I think 14:36:41 not sure if that patch landed, tbh 14:36:41 (by the way, happy st patrick's day, everyone) 14:36:48 rosmaita: ++ 14:36:55 happy st patrick's day! 14:37:02 that's why Stuart and Niall are not around 14:37:04 :D 14:37:13 aha 14:37:26 gone green! 14:37:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89NjEeHku8o 14:37:38 oooooook! Anything else? 14:37:54 ^^ ref Stuart, Niall and St. Paddy's 14:38:33 I'm in Raleigh, NC so no Guiness for me 14:38:39 ok, Thanks everyone! 14:38:45 thanks! 14:38:49 Have a great day and an awesome weekend! 14:38:54 Short meeting this week 14:38:55 jokke_: wow, only you'd been a week earlier! 14:38:56 :D 14:39:05 we'd have met :/ 14:39:19 now until april.. 14:39:26 flaper87: you can close the mtg 14:39:28 flaper87: remember to end the meeting as well ;) 14:39:31 #endmeeting