14:02:31 #startmeeting glance 14:02:32 Meeting started Thu Sep 22 14:02:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:02:36 The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:02:44 o/ 14:02:46 #topic roll call 14:02:46 o/ 14:02:49 \o 14:02:51 o/ 14:02:58 o/ 14:03:10 o/ 14:03:10 o/ 14:03:19 o/ 14:03:36 o/ 14:03:37 good sized crowd today, hello everyone 14:04:10 we're in the dual-ptl phase where nikhil is wrapping up newton and i am gearing up ocata 14:04:49 #topic agenda 14:04:50 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda 14:05:22 * nikhil slips in 14:05:25 o/ 14:05:26 not much on the agenda today 14:05:34 welcome, nikhil, you are just in time 14:05:40 #topic updates 14:05:41 :) 14:06:09 GZ rosmaita for your PTL duties in Ocata 14:06:10 o/ 14:06:29 ground zero? 14:06:30 why? 14:06:47 Jokke_: ty, i had to look that up, though 14:07:04 thought at first you were telling me to gzip myself 14:07:17 couldn't decide if that was good or bad 14:07:42 nikhil: anything to report about import? 14:07:48 lossless compression is never bad 14:07:57 not much, I picked stuff up last evening 14:08:04 rosmaita: so, until next week 14:08:19 tsymanczyk: good point, at least he didn't tell me to mp3 myself 14:08:32 Jokke_: I still don't get the ground zero term for ptl duties, mind elaborating? 14:08:57 gz is the shorter form of gratz 14:08:58 nikhil: .urban gz 14:09:02 nikhil: congratulations, not ground zero 14:09:08 yup ;) 14:09:12 * nikhil enjoying distracting people when not charing the meeting! ha 14:09:19 ah ha 14:09:29 TIL 14:09:30 the .urban is back! 14:09:38 we need that bot on -glance 14:09:48 no, we don't! 14:09:56 watches for rosmaita to make note of nikhil as one of the troublemakers 14:09:58 lol 14:10:37 ok, we will get rolling on import over the next few days and have something to report next week 14:10:59 ok, next update is Community Images ... lots of patches up 14:11:06 tsymanczyk: you have the mic 14:11:47 so there was always at least two changesets planned in glance to pull this off 14:11:55 just wanted to ack, tsymanczyk's work: I saw the new patch and it looks great! 14:12:09 the first changes the backend database to use a proper enum column for visibility rather than a boolean is_public 14:12:12 nikhil: thanks! 14:12:33 a week or so ago i chose to rewrite that one, because i thought the old one was getting to crappy and the shortest path would be a rewrite 14:12:44 and a day or so ago the new rewrite passed all the unit tests for the first time 14:13:41 and more notably (to me), the new one is +448 -201, and the old one is +422 - 307. and the old one never "worked". so fewer removals and better functionality 14:14:07 i have some open questions for myself regarding the new change, some things i know i'm not happy with and some things i want to escalate the visibilty of so that everyone can see exactly what's going on 14:14:21 i'll work on polishing the easy ones today and documenting the ones that need discussion for tomorrow's sync 14:14:36 excellent! 14:14:40 unfortunately i don't think any of the ... 3? i'm guessing? topics are shallow enough to usefully bring up now 14:14:42 that's all i ahve. 14:15:11 for anyone interested, tsymanczyk holds a quick sync in #openstack-glance at 16:00 utc on fridays 14:15:17 (hope i have the time right) 14:15:27 i just know 9am pst. 14:15:39 come one come all. though it may be boring. 14:15:59 if you come and are bored, you can always review the code ... 14:16:15 rosmaita: I think 9 am pacific is prolly more accurate, if this rolls over to november 14:16:18 should be hopefully usefully ready for reviews very shortly. 14:16:39 tsymanczyk: sounds good ... thanks for the update 14:17:01 ok, i did my first ptl-type thing and added an agenda item past the deadline 14:17:08 #topic design summit 14:17:27 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-glance-summit-planning 14:17:43 the slots we've been assigned are at the top of the etherpad 14:18:06 we get 2 fishbowl, 2 workroom, and the contributors' meetup 14:18:26 so, we need to decide what sessions we'll do 14:18:58 also, my informal discussions with people lead me to believe that this will be a lightly attended summit from the glance contributors' side 14:19:24 which is kind of a drag 14:19:47 so it would be helpful if you put your name on the etherpad if you think you are likely to attend 14:19:54 * tsymanczyk will be there, but hasn't mentioned it before 14:20:40 but, whether you will be there or not, please look at the proposals and indicate importance 14:21:12 depending on attendance, we may need to do some kind of virtual ocata sync 14:21:21 are we still going with voting? 14:21:47 yes, i think we should still vote 14:22:01 thanks 14:22:17 there aren't a lot of names on the doc with votes on the topics 14:22:31 we have 12 cores and there are maybe 6 diff voters 14:22:48 i'm just mentioning that as a count 14:22:58 you don't need to be a core to vote 14:23:14 anyone interested, please put a vote up 14:23:44 and i guess it's not too late to propose a new topic 14:23:57 * nikhil finds amusing that this indeed is a voting season 14:24:17 well, we have better options 14:24:49 :) 14:24:54 ok, that's all about that ... please put your name on the etherpad if you think you'll be in barcelona, and please register interest in topics even if you won't be there 14:25:11 back to our regularly scheduled program ... 14:25:14 I don't think I have communicated the deadline to propose or vote on the session on the ML 14:25:40 good point, let's decide that now 14:26:08 I think one week should be good for 2fb + 2wr 14:26:22 so before next meeting, decision at the meeting? 14:26:36 that sounds good to me 14:27:01 i'll send out somethihg to the ML after the meeting 14:27:22 #topic shared and public image problems with multi-tenant swift backend 14:27:29 dharinic: i think this is you? 14:28:22 rosmaita: Yes. I was working on this. 14:28:43 I reproduced the bug on devstack. 14:29:42 The bug is that when an image is created for a project when Swift multi tenancy is enabled, an instance is not creatable from another project from that image 14:30:04 The instance does seem to successfully boot. But goes to "ERROR" state 14:30:15 This might require some API changes to fix 14:30:30 I think this happens because we do not share images in swift 14:30:30 I am looking at ways to fix this.. 14:30:36 IIUC 14:30:57 https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1625075 14:30:59 Launchpad bug 1625075 in Glance "Shared & public images no working with multi-tenant swift backend" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Dharini Chandrasekar (dharini-chandrasekar) 14:31:21 kairat: you mean we don't add ACLs in swift? 14:31:22 dharinic: dyk if this is a relatively recent problem, or has it existed a long time and no one noticed? 14:31:42 hemanthm, need to check 14:32:02 kairat: please see the comment on the bug, they've a tenative fix that just mimicks the owner 14:32:05 hemanthm: ^ 14:32:06 The bug was very recently reported. I had not come across this earlier. So not very sure if this has been this way for long 14:32:23 ok, thanks 14:32:23 it's reported for stable/mitaka 14:32:53 I also don't think we supported multi-tenant swift backend for very long 14:32:54 I think Stuart added that in the last 2 cycles, ish 14:32:57 Yeah. The bug reporter had this issue with stable Mitaka. 14:33:31 sigmavirus: yeah, improvement started in early 2015 14:33:43 * sigmavirus goes back to lurking in the shadows 14:33:55 * nikhil takes out flashlight 14:34:06 sorry, I see only cli logs 14:34:07 dharinic: do you need specific help on the bug, or just want to raise our awareness atm? 14:34:17 any glance logs and configs are available 14:34:45 dharinic, 14:34:58 rosmaita: Just your all's opinion. 14:35:17 looks like we need more details at this point 14:35:30 afaik, multi-tenant haven't been working well with swift+config 14:35:37 Let me fetch the paste links (hoping that helps) 14:35:45 I think dharinic has logs, just not posted in midst of that chaos 14:36:04 * dharinic trying to fetch logs from the comments in the bug post 14:36:12 well, it's not friendly for sure 14:36:47 http://paste.openstack.org/show/582461/ 14:36:54 http://paste.openstack.org/show/582465/ 14:36:56 IIUC, this must be solved with acls 14:36:58 rosmaita: we need opinions on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1625075/comments/5 14:36:59 Launchpad bug 1625075 in Glance "Shared & public images no working with multi-tenant swift backend" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Dharini Chandrasekar (dharini-chandrasekar) 14:37:05 kairat: ^ 14:37:06 and it is rather glance issue 14:37:11 The first link is the scenario and second is the log where we see a 404 14:37:27 dharinic, what is your config? 14:37:29 (let's not jump to conclusions, we are still figuring out problem and not zeroed onto the solutions) 14:37:57 nikhil, so you figured it out? 14:38:03 also, I think this meeting is maybe not best taken over by this discussion. dharinic and kairat can you chat in #openstack-glance while the meeting continues? 14:38:10 sigmavirus, ok 14:38:13 kairat, config file contents? http://paste.openstack.org/show/582595/ 14:38:19 (I repeat) we are still figuring out 14:38:21 dharinic, thanks 14:38:30 sure 14:38:33 well, we have a light agenda today 14:38:49 i propose we move on quickly, end in about 5 min and continue in openstack-glance 14:38:57 * sigmavirus agrees 14:39:04 as long as everyone is here and move over there, we can discuss 14:39:06 give people back time (that we didn't take ;)) 14:39:22 it will be useful to have several people look at dharinic's bug 14:39:29 ok, moving on then: 14:39:46 #topic event communication 14:39:50 this is real quick 14:40:12 nikhil proposed that we put up a docs page with glance events 14:40:33 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366923/ 14:40:43 i think there are pros and cons to this 14:40:55 so i would be interested in what the community thinks 14:41:03 please leave comments on the patch 14:41:08 that's all 14:41:19 #topic open discussion 14:41:26 any open topics? 14:42:21 just a few personal updates from my side 14:42:32 nikhil: you have the floor 14:42:38 I am planning to travel next week and be the week after (long long trips) 14:43:22 I have picked up the import commits 14:43:37 I will co-ordinate via /email/ with those who indicated last week about their interest to contribute 14:44:01 (as my communication is going to be drastically asynchronous) 14:44:40 also, I am not sure if the i18n team will/will not have the translations for stable/newton glance 14:44:57 if they do, can the ocata ptl/release liaison please get those merged asap 14:45:06 and we will need another rc candidate for glance right after 14:45:35 ok, thanks for the heads-up on the translations 14:45:39 if it does happen, that looks like our rc-final for newton (otherwise rc1 will be rc-final) 14:46:07 sigmavirus: you are release liason, is that correct? 14:46:25 rosmaita: also, only the glance-release team is on the stable/newton branch 14:46:31 and I've added sigmavirus 14:46:56 ok, great 14:47:45 any other general discussion? 14:48:08 I'll keep eye on them as well 14:48:09 rosmaita: we don't have a release liaison for newton yet, but I don't know sigmavirus 's intentions (moving forward) 14:48:22 Jokke_: thanks much! 14:48:31 Jokke_: ty, also 14:48:54 nikhil: mind to give heads up to dhellmann about that as well, so release team knows that you might not be acking them 14:49:06 ok, nikhil let's you me and sigmavirus and Jokke_ make sure we are all coordinated 14:49:16 Jokke_: surely, on my plate :) (thanks for the pointer) 14:49:46 rosmaita: whatever glance needs 14:50:15 maybe let's sync tomorrow in openstack-glance? at 15:30 utc? 14:50:27 sigmavirus: Jokke_ how is that time for you? 14:50:47 sec 14:50:48 nikhil: you too ^^ 14:50:57 Hi,cores.I have some questions.when we create a image,can we choose backend storages in myself?when we upload a image,can several backend storages store at same time?i have try,but failed. 14:51:01 rosmaita: I can be release liason 14:51:21 rosmaita: I'll add a calendar event for that 14:51:25 sigmavirus: i believe i will take you up on that! 14:51:31 rosmaita: should be fine 14:51:37 liwei: you mean as a user you can choose what store you upload to? 14:51:50 sigmavirus: ty 14:52:09 rosmaita: I'll see you tomorrow then ;) 14:52:21 liwei: no, glance will always upload the image to the default store defined in glance-api.conf 14:52:24 ok, at this point: 14:52:40 rosmaita: works 14:52:40 people interested in helping liwei stay here 14:53:02 kairat: nikhil: dharinic: please head to openstack-glance to discuss the sharing bug 14:53:13 (also anyone else interested) 14:53:19 #endmeeting