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14:00:35 <sigmavirus> #chair rosmaita
14:00:36 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
14:00:37 <openstack> Current chairs: rosmaita sigmavirus
14:00:48 <rosmaita> sigmavirus: you are on top of things!
14:00:57 <abhishek_k> o/
14:00:58 <rosmaita> #topic roll call
14:01:05 * sigmavirus is a helper
14:01:06 <sigmavirus> o/
14:01:15 <alex_bash> o/
14:01:19 <rosmaita> \o
14:01:42 <rosmaita> ok, short agenda today and light turnout
14:01:59 <rosmaita> #topic updates
14:02:27 <dharinic> o/
14:02:28 <stevelle> o/
14:02:46 <rosmaita> i'll wait another minute to see if we get a few more people
14:03:53 <rosmaita> ok
14:04:02 <nikhil> o/
14:04:07 <rosmaita> nikhil!
14:04:24 <nikhil> :)
14:04:31 <nikhil> sorry I've been away
14:04:40 <rosmaita> it's ok, glad to see you back
14:04:55 <rosmaita> in fact, very glad, as you will see shortly
14:05:07 <rosmaita> ok, back to the updates
14:05:25 <rosmaita> last week i sent out a priorities email, let's review the items
14:05:35 <rosmaita> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108412.html
14:06:00 <rosmaita> priority 1 was the rolling upgrades spec
14:06:15 <rosmaita> it has been merged
14:06:38 <rosmaita> priority 2 was the db strategy for rockin' and rollin' upgrades
14:07:00 <rosmaita> that one needs some cores to review, please
14:07:26 <rosmaita> preferably non-rackspac
14:07:40 <rosmaita> since hemanth and rosmaita are co-authors
14:08:08 <rosmaita> i noticed that stevelle left some comments, i will address and get a new patch up
14:08:26 <rosmaita> also, you don't have to be a core to review it
14:08:42 <rosmaita> anyone thinking of working on glance long-term should check it out
14:08:49 <rosmaita> it's the strategy of The Future
14:09:08 <rosmaita> ok, so priority (2) --> not accomplished
14:09:59 <rosmaita> priority (3) --> not accomplished, has a +2 but needs another (or request for revision)
14:10:05 <rosmaita> in other words, needs some action
14:10:12 <rosmaita> moving on
14:10:23 <rosmaita> priority (4), patch to fix a bad regression
14:10:58 <rosmaita> was hoping to get some input from kairat on that one
14:11:50 <rosmaita> i think it's pretty much ready, but could maybe use a few more eyes
14:12:26 <rosmaita> ok, so (4) not accomplished
14:12:31 <rosmaita> this is getting depressing
14:12:40 <rosmaita> i'm afraid to look at (5)
14:12:58 <rosmaita> looks like no action on that one
14:13:04 <rosmaita> sorry abhishek_k
14:13:21 <abhishek_k> no issues rosmaita:
14:13:34 <rosmaita> and (6) looks like no activity either
14:13:43 <abhishek_k> thank you for your efforts
14:13:53 <rosmaita> well, on the plus side, that will make the list of next week's priorities easy to write
14:14:25 <rosmaita> i'll try to attend better to 5 & 6 this week
14:14:51 <rosmaita> spent a lot of time on the community images spec update, which i didn't list as a priority because i thought we'd reached a consensus last week
14:15:01 <rosmaita> but we had not
14:15:13 <rosmaita> so i guess i'm setting a bad example here
14:15:16 <rosmaita> anywya
14:15:30 <rosmaita> #topic Community images spec update, part 16
14:15:41 <rosmaita> new patch up
14:15:45 <rosmaita> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/396919/
14:15:49 <sigmavirus> you mean part 601, right? :P
14:16:00 <rosmaita> sigmavirus: thanks, that was a typo
14:16:21 <rosmaita> ok, so this has been pretty rough going
14:16:49 <rosmaita> it's been hard to find a solution for 'visibiliity' default & migration that satisfies everyone
14:17:01 <rosmaita> so i've gone for a compromise that will satisfy no one
14:17:05 <rosmaita> (just kidding)
14:17:13 <rosmaita> actually, i think this is a good trade-off
14:17:23 <rosmaita> even though it's not my favorite solution
14:17:35 <rosmaita> so the new patch sticks with default visibility of shared
14:17:54 <rosmaita> but will make non-public images that have no members 'private' in the migration
14:18:05 <rosmaita> anyway, the full story is in the patch
14:18:22 <rosmaita> i added some stuff to make clear what the end user impact will be
14:18:32 <rosmaita> i don't think there's a way to have *no* impact
14:18:41 <rosmaita> but this seems reasonable
14:18:43 <sigmavirus> correct
14:18:57 <sigmavirus> if it was a no-impact change, there'd be no need for a spec ;)
14:19:05 <sigmavirus> it's just tautological :D
14:19:10 <rosmaita> good point
14:19:44 <rosmaita> anyway, all the +2s have no disappeared and need to be renewed (unless you have strong reservations)
14:19:52 <rosmaita> and again, non-cores should take a look too
14:20:06 <rosmaita> image sharing is a bit more complicated that it should be
14:20:21 <rosmaita> so you might as well get familiar with what's going on there
14:20:21 <stevelle> truths
14:21:31 <rosmaita> ok, that's all on the agenda for today
14:21:36 <rosmaita> #topic open discussion
14:21:52 <rosmaita> i haven't had time to put together the next operators' survey
14:22:03 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-swift-multitenant-usre-survey
14:22:16 <rosmaita> (that link is correct, misspelling and all)
14:22:48 <rosmaita> the topic is to figure out how many operators use multi-tenant-swift backend
14:23:03 <rosmaita> so we can prioritize work on it
14:23:32 <rosmaita> there's a current op survey out, closes tomorrow
14:23:41 <rosmaita> about use of multiple image locations
14:24:00 <rosmaita> so far, looks like people are using them
14:24:19 <rosmaita> mostly for ceph backend, but i haven't looked through all the responses yet
14:24:46 <rosmaita> fei long is going to use the info to put together a design session for the PTG
14:24:49 * sigmavirus hates the multi location nonsense
14:24:55 <rosmaita> me too
14:25:17 <rosmaita> i'm hoping we get enough info to replace them with an actual feature aimed at a particular use case
14:25:39 <rosmaita> right now, they're just sort of available for you to open security holes with
14:25:55 <rosmaita> speaking of the PTG ...
14:26:13 <rosmaita> my plan is that we'll do 2 1/2 days of glance
14:26:32 <rosmaita> that will allow you to leave on Friday afternoon, don't have to wait for friday evening
14:26:43 <rosmaita> basically, what everyone does anyway
14:27:16 <rosmaita> but, at this point, i should shut up and let someone else have the floor
14:27:23 * rosmaita shuts up
14:27:58 <alex_bash> I think you said all the words :)
14:28:53 <rosmaita> guess so ... hope i didn't suck all the oxygen out of the room
14:30:18 <rosmaita> well ... same priorities as last week except for the one that got done + community images spec update
14:30:47 <rosmaita> ok, please have a productive next half hour!
14:30:53 <rosmaita> #endmeeting