14:00:04 <rosmaita> #startmeeting glance
14:00:05 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Jul 13 14:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:00:10 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
14:00:16 <rosmaita> #topic roll call
14:00:20 <kairat> o
14:00:23 <kairat> o/
14:00:25 <smcginnis> Howdy
14:00:48 <rosmaita> hello kairat and sean
14:00:53 <rosmaita> erno is around here somewhere
14:00:54 <jokke_> o/
14:01:02 <jokke_> I'm here
14:01:06 <rosmaita> and i think abhishek is on the way, may be stuck in traffic
14:01:10 <rosmaita> hi erno
14:01:18 <jokke_> kairat: \o good to see you around.
14:01:54 <efried> o/
14:01:54 <kairat> jokke_, glad to see you too
14:02:13 <kairat> an all glance contributors=)
14:02:13 <rosmaita> guess we should get started, here's the agenda:
14:02:15 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda
14:02:15 <abhishekk_> O/
14:02:28 <rosmaita> #topic updates
14:02:56 <rosmaita> #topic update - sydney summit presentations
14:03:09 <rosmaita> just a reminder, the OpenStack Summit Sydney Call for Presentations closes July 14 at 11:59 pm PT/ July 15 at 6:59 UTC
14:03:24 <rosmaita> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119345.html
14:03:34 <rosmaita> there's more info at the link
14:03:47 <rosmaita> anyone know if they'll be attending yet?
14:04:37 <smcginnis> rosmaita: I will be there. Hoping to meet more glance folks as time permits.
14:04:56 <rosmaita> hopefully there will be some people there for you to meet!
14:05:09 <smcginnis> Yes! :)
14:05:14 <rosmaita> #topic updates - upcoming deadlines
14:05:32 <rosmaita> ok, we are one week away from the final release for non-client libraries
14:05:40 <rosmaita> which in our case is glance_store
14:05:49 <rosmaita> someone has that on the agenda for later
14:05:57 <rosmaita> just note the date for now
14:05:59 <rosmaita> also
14:06:10 <rosmaita> we are 2 weeks away from P-3 and feature freeze
14:06:36 <rosmaita> what that means for us is community goals done and image import refactore
14:06:40 <rosmaita> *refactor
14:06:57 <jokke_> Oh it was me
14:07:09 <rosmaita> i think the wsgi goal is basically done, though there may be some configuration info that we need to publish
14:07:19 <rosmaita> we will talk about that more in item #3
14:07:33 <jokke_> it seems that there is some serious issues still with uwsgi deployed Glance
14:07:50 <rosmaita> the py35 goal, i need to revisit, it was held up by some ssl problems, iirc
14:07:58 <smcginnis> Is there still an issue with large image upload with uWSGI?
14:08:01 <jokke_> so depending of the definition of "done" we might be bit cautious about that
14:08:02 <smcginnis> I hope I got that right.
14:08:03 <rosmaita> jokke_: yes, abhishekk_ has that on the agenda
14:08:17 <rosmaita> smcginnis: yes, that seems to be the problem
14:08:53 <rosmaita> that's it for the updates, we'll discuss the technical issues in a minute
14:09:00 <jokke_> we can continue that in the later slot
14:09:05 <rosmaita> #topic PTG planning
14:09:24 <rosmaita> i'm waiting to hear back what our room situation will be at the PTG
14:09:39 <rosmaita> in the meantime, there's an etherpad for discussion proposals:
14:09:52 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg-planning
14:10:31 <rosmaita> for the last PTG, the proposals, topics, scheduling could be revised right up to the last minute
14:10:59 <rosmaita> i believe that's true this time, though it would be nice to have a schedule a bit in advance to help people on other teams plan
14:11:02 <jokke_> but lets not leave all the planning ofr the last minute ;)
14:11:08 <rosmaita> jokke_: ++
14:11:37 <smcginnis> Somewhat related - there's the travel support program for Sydney, but I think I heard they are also doing it for the PTG.
14:11:41 <smcginnis> Sorry, no link.
14:11:52 <rosmaita> if you have a topic, feel free to put the title and a quick description, you can come back and fill it in a bit later
14:12:00 <rosmaita> we just want to do some brainstorming
14:12:26 <smcginnis> But if you are a contributor but can't get company funding to attend, might be worth looking into.
14:12:31 <rosmaita> dang typed into the wrong interface
14:12:47 <rosmaita> smcginnis: i think there's a link to the info the etherpad i mentioned above
14:12:59 <smcginnis> rosmaita: Oh, great!
14:13:28 <rosmaita> but good suggestion, please look into the travel support if you aren't sure about funding
14:13:57 <rosmaita> that is something you probably need to do sooner rather than wait, the deadline is pretty soon i think
14:14:22 <jokke_> ++
14:14:26 <rosmaita> btw, this time i requested 2 days instead of 3
14:14:38 <jokke_> rosmaita: for PTG?
14:14:40 <rosmaita> but i'm having second thoughts, because we got quite a bit done on friday last time
14:14:51 <rosmaita> jokke_: yes
14:15:20 <smcginnis> The glare discussion could take a whole day. ;)
14:15:22 <rosmaita> but, i personally was late asking for Glance meeting space, that's why we're waiting to hear what will be available
14:15:37 <rosmaita> smcginnis: that would be a friday discussion :)
14:15:45 <jokke_> the Friday seemed to be more freeform collaboration and cross project last time when the two first days were tightly scheduled for everyone
14:16:16 <jokke_> I think it could be good to at least verify we can have a table or corner somewhere to gather up if people are staying
14:16:21 <rosmaita> i guess the point i want to make is that people tend to use the last day for travel
14:16:36 <rosmaita> so even if thursday is the last glance day, please don't leave early
14:16:37 <jokke_> indeed
14:16:49 <rosmaita> we want to get 2 full days of collaboration, not 1.5 days
14:17:02 <rosmaita> ok, i will keep everyone posted as i get more info
14:17:27 <rosmaita> but please put topics on the etherpad, especially stuff you've heard from operators
14:17:36 <rosmaita> ok, next item
14:17:55 <rosmaita> #topic Disabling Glance Testing in Rally gates
14:18:03 <rosmaita> abhishekk: i think this is yours
14:18:17 <rosmaita> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1703856
14:18:19 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1703856 in Glance "502 Bad gateway error on image-create" [High,Confirmed]
14:18:33 <rosmaita> abhishekk was up early today working on this one
14:18:44 <abhishekk> yes, I am still looking for the exact issue
14:19:12 <rosmaita> from comments on the bug and discussion in the glance channel, sounds like a timeout is happening due to slow uploads
14:19:16 <jokke_> abhishekk: were you able to reproduce that outside of the infra?
14:19:16 <rosmaita> possibly
14:19:18 <abhishekk> it is failing intermittently even I increase socket-timeout in uwsgi.ini
14:19:26 <rosmaita> ok, that's bad
14:19:31 <abhishekk> jokke_: yes
14:19:47 <rosmaita> so the timeout increase seems to help, but not deterministically
14:19:55 <jokke_> abhishekk: ok, cool ... that should help debugging quite a bit
14:20:06 <abhishekk> rosmaita: right
14:20:24 <rosmaita> abhishekk: what kind of setup did you reproduce it on?
14:20:32 <abhishekk> jokke_: you simply need to create large size image which will trigger this failure
14:20:51 <abhishekk> i jsut had a all in one setup
14:21:16 <abhishekk> created new vm and installed openstack using devstack
14:21:17 <jokke_> abhishekk: ok, any idea why it still fails in Rally gate as I understood that the images uploaded there are not that large
14:21:47 <jokke_> do we have resource exhaustion somewhere?
14:22:10 <abhishekk> jokke_: unfortunately I left office early today and still travelling to home :(
14:22:42 <rosmaita> abhishekk: how big was your vm?
14:22:58 <abhishekk> 60 GB
14:23:13 <rosmaita> sounds pretty big, ok
14:23:16 <jokke_> abhishekk: ok ... I'm afraid I won't have too much time to focus on this, but if you have something specific you need help with, let me know ... I'll try to find the time to help
14:23:41 <abhishekk> where I tried to create 10 GB, 15 GB images which are intermittently failing
14:24:01 <abhishekk> jokke_: sure I will spend some time on it
14:24:04 <rosmaita> that same 502 bad gateway?
14:24:08 <abhishekk> yes
14:24:23 <rosmaita> ok
14:24:33 <rosmaita> anyone know if mtreinish is around?
14:24:50 <abhishekk> hopefully I will figure it out tonight
14:25:08 <abhishekk> I have subscribed him to bug
14:25:25 <rosmaita> i think mtreinish is USA eastern TZ, so he should be around in a bit (unless he's on vacation)
14:25:59 <rosmaita> abhishekk: thanks for picking this up, it is a high-profile bug
14:26:13 <jokke_> abhishekk: also don't be afraid to share any findings and ask help, even you don't have answers based on them, someone might
14:26:29 <abhishekk> jokke_: yes
14:27:11 <rosmaita> ok, well a priority for anyone with some time is to help abhishekk
14:27:23 <rosmaita> please keep an eye on the glance channel
14:27:44 <rosmaita> and abhishekk , please keep us posted in there, even if it's just to say, "finally going to bed"
14:27:49 <rosmaita> :)
14:28:00 <abhishekk> rosmaita: yes
14:28:31 <rosmaita> thanks, abhishekk ... anyone have any other suggestions about this one?
14:29:25 <rosmaita> actually, i have a dumb question ... anyone know of any openstack clouds with free developer accounts?
14:29:44 <rosmaita> i used to have access to all the VMs i needed, but currently i don't
14:30:05 <smcginnis> rosmaita: I know GCE has a free level, but you don't get much.
14:30:18 <rosmaita> yeah, same with aws, just one micro
14:30:33 <smcginnis> Works to get a terminal, but not too useful beyond that.
14:30:47 <rosmaita> just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing out on anything obvious
14:30:54 <rosmaita> ok, next item
14:31:08 <rosmaita> #topic non-client library deadline next week
14:31:10 <rosmaita> this is erno
14:31:16 <rosmaita> talking about glance_store
14:32:16 <rosmaita> i mean this is jokke_ talking about glance_store
14:32:48 <jokke_> yeah
14:33:05 <jokke_> so just heads up the last non-client release deadline is next week
14:33:26 <rosmaita> quick question
14:33:44 <rosmaita> supposing there were a security fix after the deadline, we can still release?
14:33:45 <jokke_> Lets prioritize to get anything in we know we need so we can request release at Wednesday and hopefully have good stable glance-store for Pike
14:34:25 <jokke_> rosmaita: yes so after next week normal stable rules apply ... no new features etc. just bugfixes and such
14:35:08 <jokke_> anything critical we can obviously even bump requirements but most important is that there is no surprises on interfaces etc. for the consumers
14:35:16 <rosmaita> ok
14:35:51 <rosmaita> so we're basically looking at this:
14:35:52 <jokke_> obviously this is more critical for libs that has lots of cross project consumers, but we don't want to shoot Glare guys into the foot either by making big last minute changes
14:35:56 <rosmaita> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/glance_store+status:open+branch:master
14:37:33 <rosmaita> this is our last agenda item, so please look through the list of patches and see what makes sense to get in
14:37:55 <efried> Is there an etherpad or some other way of figuring out which of those are critical to get into the release?
14:38:22 <jokke_> And all, feel free to ping if there is something that needs urgent attention (in form of reviews or actual implementation work we have just missed)
14:38:28 <rosmaita> efried: don't think so, but we can make one
14:38:50 <efried> Happy to help with reviews, but would be nice to know which to focus on.
14:38:54 <jokke_> efried: No I don't think we've had any big changes apart from bug fixes in glance-store for this cycle
14:39:12 <jokke_> obviously the more of the bugfixes we get in by next week, the less we need to backport
14:40:57 <efried> As a noob, sorry if this is obvious, but I'll start looking at patches with a topic of bug/* that don't already have a +2?
14:41:13 <smcginnis> There's a few glance_store patches under the "Needs final +2" section in the review dashboard I put on the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Glance
14:41:26 <smcginnis> And a bunch under the bugfixes section.
14:41:32 <smcginnis> Though a lot appear to have -1 right now.
14:43:15 <rosmaita> efried: that, starting with bugs that "look" important
14:43:25 <efried> aiyee
14:43:32 <jokke_> rosmaita: So half offtopic ... I think that uwsgi and glance-store are this weeks priority list? ;)
14:43:59 <rosmaita> jokke_: yes
14:44:19 <rosmaita> but to efried 's point, would be helpful to prioritize the glance_store bugs
14:44:44 <rosmaita> i don't see anything super important at first glance, though
14:45:02 <efried> Here's a refined dashboard based off of smcginnis's that focuses on glance_store: https://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=project%3A%5Eopenstack%2F.%2Aglance_store+status%3Aopen+NOT+owner%3Aself+NOT+label%3AWorkflow%3C%3D%252D1+label%3AVerified%3E%3D1+NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D%252D1%252cself+NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3E%3D1%252cself&title=Glance+Review+Inbox&Glance+Specs=project%3Aopenstack%2Fglance
14:45:02 <efried> %252Dspecs&Bug+Fixes=topic%3A%5Ebug%2F.%2A&Needs+Feedback+%28Changes+older+than+5+days+that+have+not+been+reviewed+by+anyone%29=NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D2+age%3A5d&You+are+a+reviewer%252c+but+haven%27t+voted+in+the+current+revision=reviewer%3Aself&Needs+final+%2B2=label%3ACode%252DReview%3E%3D2+limit%3A50&New+Contributors=reviewer%3A10068&Passed+Jenkins%252c+No+Negative+Feedback=NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3E%3
14:45:02 <efried> D2+NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D%252D1+limit%3A50&Wayward+Changes+%28Changes+with+no+code+review+in+the+last+2days%29=NOT+label%3ACode%252DReview%3C%3D2
14:45:04 <jokke_> I'll try to make quick triage run tonight
14:45:05 <efried> whoah
14:45:43 <rosmaita> or maybe we end meeting early and use next 15 min?
14:45:53 <rosmaita> anyone have anything for open discussion?
14:45:59 <jokke_> quick one
14:46:03 <rosmaita> k
14:46:25 <rosmaita> #topic open discussion
14:47:00 <jokke_> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482182/ One IIR bit I totally forgot until I started to implement the client side so would appreciate reviews on that
14:47:08 <jokke_> it's really small one
14:47:53 <rosmaita> i'll commit to a review of that today
14:48:07 <rosmaita> i'll include in priorities just to keep IIR on everyone's radar
14:48:34 <rosmaita> ok, if there's nothing else, let's adjourn to the glance channel and take a quick look at the glance_store patches
14:48:39 <rosmaita> anything else?
14:49:44 <rosmaita> ok, let's go to glance store, efried can you create a blank etherpad to collect patch #s?
14:49:57 <rosmaita> thanks everyone, see you in #openstack-glance in a minute
14:50:01 <rosmaita> #endmeeting