14:00:00 <rosmaita> #startmeeting glance 14:00:00 <openstack> Meeting started Thu Aug 3 14:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:01 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:04 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:00:14 <rosmaita> #topic roll call 14:00:18 <rosmaita> hello everyone 14:00:25 <rosmaita> looks quiet in the glance channel 14:00:29 <abhishekk> hi 14:00:38 <abhishekk> o/ 14:00:45 <rosmaita> \o 14:01:28 <mfedosin> o/ 14:01:32 <abhishekk> i guess jokke_ is on vacation 14:01:34 <rosmaita> hi mike 14:01:45 <rosmaita> yes, i think jokke_won't be here 14:01:45 <mfedosin> hello :) 14:02:32 <rosmaita> i guess let's wait a few more minutes, it's a light agenda today 14:02:33 <mfedosin> I think I have several things to discuss about ptg 14:02:43 <rosmaita> ok, great, we'll have time 14:03:38 <rosmaita> well, i don't want to waste anyone's time, the meeting logs will be available for anyone who shows up late 14:03:46 <rosmaita> #topic updates 14:03:58 <rosmaita> #topic update - releases 14:04:14 <rosmaita> we got the glanceclient 2.8.0 out the door 14:04:23 <rosmaita> after a long day 14:04:29 <rosmaita> and got P-3 tagged 14:04:41 <rosmaita> so, congratulations everyone 14:04:43 <abhishekk> \o/ 14:04:49 <abhishekk> great 14:04:57 <rosmaita> #topic update - PTG travel support 14:05:14 <rosmaita> just a reminder that the travel support deadline for applications is August 6 14:05:21 <rosmaita> which is coming up fast 14:05:37 <rosmaita> there's info at the bottom of the ptg etherpad 14:05:48 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-queens-ptg-planning 14:06:09 <rosmaita> i don't know how the applications are assessed, but we are a core project so make sure you mention glance 14:06:28 <rosmaita> #topic update - voter eligibility 14:06:42 <rosmaita> ptl and tc elections are coming up 14:06:56 <rosmaita> there was some kind of change in verifying who can vote 14:07:11 <abhishekk> is that so? 14:07:12 <mfedosin> who can now? 14:07:42 <rosmaita> same people, but your foundation membership email has to be lined up with your gerrit email 14:07:44 <rosmaita> something like that 14:07:46 <rosmaita> anyway 14:08:01 <rosmaita> fungi sent out an email with a helpful list so you can check easily 14:08:12 <rosmaita> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120544.html 14:08:33 <rosmaita> if you show up in the "members" list, you are OK; otherwise you'll have to read the email to see what you need to do 14:09:04 <rosmaita> anyway, check as soon as you can, ptl elections are next week (i think) 14:09:09 <rosmaita> and tc shortly after that 14:09:33 <rosmaita> #update - RC-1 and hard string freeze 14:09:36 <abhishekk> thanks for the update 14:09:41 <rosmaita> np 14:09:44 <rosmaita> oops 14:09:57 <rosmaita> #topic update - RC-1 and hard string freeze 14:10:12 <rosmaita> ok, next week is RC-1 time 14:10:27 <rosmaita> what this means is: we will cut the stable/pike branch for glance 14:10:35 <rosmaita> that will open master for new development 14:10:51 <rosmaita> but it also means that any bugfixes done in master will have to be backported into stable/pike 14:11:05 <rosmaita> and, such bugfixes should be "release-critical" 14:11:10 <rosmaita> here's a summary from ttx: 14:11:20 <rosmaita> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120574.html 14:11:47 <rosmaita> so, this week, we really need to get anything that should be in pike, into master before the branch is cut 14:12:08 <rosmaita> which brings us to the next topic, namely to talk about what's necessary 14:12:20 <rosmaita> #topic RC-1 14:12:37 <rosmaita> doc migration patches 14:12:45 <rosmaita> doug mentioned these on the ML 14:12:52 <rosmaita> i think Glance is actually OK for this 14:13:07 <rosmaita> doug used us as an experiment for how the migration should work 14:13:17 <abhishekk> yes, everything is marked as completed 14:13:21 <rosmaita> cool 14:13:38 <rosmaita> here's the list of what's happening with the docs migration in case you are interested: 14:13:50 <rosmaita> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking 14:14:03 <rosmaita> it includes stuff that's going to happen in queens also 14:14:17 <rosmaita> anyway, nothing for us to worry about there 14:14:30 <rosmaita> #topic RC-1 - metadefs 14:14:44 <rosmaita> there are a few metadefs patches outstanding 14:15:05 <rosmaita> i'd like to get those merged so that we don't have to worry about metadefs for a while 14:15:15 <rosmaita> i'll put a list of patches on the weekly priorities email 14:15:29 <rosmaita> #topic RC-1 - image import testing 14:15:46 <rosmaita> abhishekk has been good about this, already caught a bug and fixed it 14:16:13 <abhishekk> I will have a look again 14:16:17 <rosmaita> glance is being shipped with image import "off", but it would be good to get some more testing 14:16:34 <rosmaita> #topic RC-1 - image import discovery call 14:16:46 <rosmaita> the current /info call is very bare-bones 14:16:56 <rosmaita> which is OK since we said this is an MVP 14:17:55 <rosmaita> i may try to get some more done on that ... it's going to require some new config options 14:18:08 <rosmaita> which are usually the subject of much discussion 14:18:18 <rosmaita> so i may hold off, i'm not sure 14:18:40 <rosmaita> i don't think the enhanced call is necessary for people who want to test out import 14:18:56 <rosmaita> so i don't think it's release-critical 14:19:04 <abhishekk> right 14:19:15 <rosmaita> anyway, i'm just thinking out loud here and will shut up 14:19:30 <rosmaita> #topic RC-1 - image import docs 14:19:36 <rosmaita> actually this is more important 14:19:44 <rosmaita> i'll work on this instead 14:20:04 <rosmaita> we just need enough doc so that an interested operator would know what to do to use image import 14:20:30 <rosmaita> so this is higher priority than enhanced discovery 14:20:37 <rosmaita> and finally 14:20:46 <rosmaita> #topic RC-1 - py35 community goal 14:21:05 <rosmaita> we're pretty close on this, but i don't think we have to have it in pike 14:21:24 <rosmaita> i'd like to get it done before the pike release, but i think it's perfectly OK if we just get it done in master 14:21:48 <rosmaita> it's not like we're the only project that hasn't completed it 14:21:54 <rosmaita> so we're not holding up openstack 14:22:01 <abhishekk> any specific reason, I guess we are skipping two tests because of ssl issue i guess 14:22:19 <rosmaita> yes, that's the main thing 14:22:43 <abhishekk> ok 14:22:51 <rosmaita> and we need to check the gating for glance_store and glanceclient, i don't think they have voting py35 jobs atm 14:23:14 <abhishekk> ok 14:23:27 <rosmaita> anyway, i will interpret "during pike" to mean "during the pike release, but not necessarily in pike" 14:24:17 <rosmaita> i think that's pretty much it 14:24:52 <rosmaita> ok, just so i don't forget 14:25:06 <rosmaita> #action rosmaita - metadefs patch list for priorities 14:25:20 <rosmaita> #action rosmaita - image import docs 14:25:42 <rosmaita> also, i did notice that the docs table of contents page is kind of a mess ATM 14:26:26 <rosmaita> if i have time i'll file some bugs 14:27:05 <rosmaita> i'm not going to prioritize those, though, because that kind of thing tends to eat up reviewer time 14:27:26 <rosmaita> ok, i guess that's it 14:27:40 <rosmaita> #topic open discussion 14:27:59 <rosmaita> mfedosin: you wanted to talk about the ptg? 14:28:10 <mfedosin> oh yeah 14:28:29 <mfedosin> I just want to give our update... 14:28:47 <mfedosin> so, we booked a room for wednesday and thursday 14:29:20 <mfedosin> from glare team there will be me, Idan and Kairat 14:29:35 <mfedosin> so, I decided, maybe we can share a room 14:29:41 <rosmaita> good, glad you'll be there 14:29:42 <mfedosin> or take two adjacent 14:30:07 <mfedosin> because I want to participate in glance sessions too 14:30:25 <mfedosin> what do you think? 14:30:25 <rosmaita> right 14:30:59 <mfedosin> I haven't created our agenda for ptg, but hope to finish it next week 14:31:11 <rosmaita> yeah, our agenda is not set yet either 14:31:28 <rosmaita> i think we should definitely coordinate our agendas 14:31:46 <rosmaita> but i'd kind of prefer separate rooms 14:31:46 <mfedosin> indeed! that's exactly I wanted to suggest 14:32:10 <mfedosin> np, maybe it's even better 14:32:10 <rosmaita> or maybe separate rooms on 1 day, shared room another day 14:32:34 <rosmaita> i think there are probably business items that each team will have to attend to 14:32:41 <abhishekk> separate but next to each other? 14:32:41 <mfedosin> I will come to you to drink coffee when our is over. 14:32:46 <rosmaita> where extra people may be a distraction 14:33:06 <rosmaita> i'll be completely honest, the "should we replace glance" discussion could take days 14:33:16 <rosmaita> so i'd like to get some queens planning done first! 14:33:25 <rosmaita> because i don't see the replacement happening in queens 14:33:36 <rosmaita> i think there'd need to be a bunch of groundwork done 14:33:39 * smcginnis is on the go today but lurking 14:33:46 <rosmaita> smcginnis: hi! 14:33:46 <mfedosin> you said "days", I think "months" more correct 14:33:50 <smcginnis> o/ 14:33:51 <rosmaita> :) 14:34:00 <rosmaita> well, we only have days in denver! 14:34:12 <mfedosin> ah, in that case - yes 14:34:39 <rosmaita> did kendall send out the rooms yet, or is she still working on them? 14:35:35 <smcginnis> I haven't seen a set room assignment yet. 14:35:39 <rosmaita> but also, mfedosin , make sure you put your name as "interested" on any of the glance stuff you want to attend, so we know which ones to coordinate 14:35:41 <mfedosin> don't know, but we booked a small one 14:36:04 <rosmaita> yeah, i told kendall small room, but haven't heard a definite schedule yet 14:36:15 <mfedosin> I want to discuss glance_store 14:36:36 <mfedosin> kairat has a radical vision, that we shouldn't use it in glare 14:36:58 <mfedosin> but I believe that we can refactor it a little bit and it will be fine 14:37:01 <rosmaita> i dont' think we have a proposal for glance_store, so feel free to put a proposal on the etherpad 14:37:09 <mfedosin> yep 14:37:31 <rosmaita> it would be good if we could make it so that both projects can consume it 14:37:40 <mfedosin> and probably I should participate in security session 14:37:51 <rosmaita> definitely 14:38:08 <mfedosin> rosmaita: agree, I tried to convince kairat, but now it is hard to do :) 14:38:17 <rosmaita> i don't know if you have had time to look at the spec on the security bug? 14:38:24 <rosmaita> that thing has gotten completely out of hand 14:38:32 <rosmaita> that's why i didn't mention it for RC-1 14:38:38 <mfedosin> nope :( can you send it to me? 14:38:41 <rosmaita> but we absolutely must do something 14:38:47 <rosmaita> mfedosin: it's attached to the bug 14:38:57 <mfedosin> got you 14:39:03 <mfedosin> sorry, was busy 14:39:09 <rosmaita> i think you should have access to the bug, if that changed, let me know 14:39:10 <rosmaita> np 14:39:11 <mfedosin> I'll take a look 14:39:22 <rosmaita> yeah, i'm curious what you'll think 14:39:39 <mfedosin> I'll leave my comment there 14:39:43 <rosmaita> cool 14:40:38 <rosmaita> ok, i'll send kendall an update saying that we want to be able to easily coordinate with the glare team, but also want some "alone time" 14:40:38 <mfedosin> btw, I want to organize a public demo with latest glare features before the ptg 14:40:54 <mfedosin> probably on 24th of August 14:41:47 <mfedosin> I want to present asynchronous upload workflows, dynamic quotas, data convertion and validation and so on 14:41:54 <mfedosin> are you interested? 14:41:56 <rosmaita> will be interesting to see what you've been working on 14:42:18 <mfedosin> okay, I'll announce it next week in the mailing list 14:42:28 <rosmaita> cool 14:42:51 <rosmaita> anyone else have anything for open discussion? 14:42:57 <mfedosin> okay, task for me - contact with kendall and review the spec 14:43:19 <abhishekk> no 14:43:35 <rosmaita> cool 14:43:35 <mfedosin> nothing else from my side 14:43:45 <rosmaita> anyone aware of anything we're missing for RC-1 ? 14:44:19 <rosmaita> well, if you think of anything, let me know 14:44:22 <smcginnis> I haven't checked, but last night I posted a link in the channel for some patches the requirements team was waiting on. 14:44:22 <abhishekk> i guess you have addressed all points 14:44:44 <abhishekk> that was about glance_store, right? 14:44:51 <smcginnis> Yep 14:44:53 <rosmaita> smcginnis: i didn't see that 14:45:45 <smcginnis> Found it: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/glance_store+branch:stable/pike+topic:backports 14:47:07 <rosmaita> smcginnis: this might be a problem with jokke_ on vacation 14:47:30 <rosmaita> i intentionally did not give myself +2 on stable branches 14:47:48 <rosmaita> who do i need to talk to about that? 14:48:20 <smcginnis> rosmaita: If tonyb is still around, probably him. But he's in Australia, so not sure his hours. 14:48:41 <rosmaita> ok, i will email him 14:48:47 <smcginnis> Maybe ping in openstack-requirements or openstack-stable? 14:49:35 <rosmaita> i'll do all of those 14:49:40 <smcginnis> ;) 14:49:48 <rosmaita> anything else? 14:50:05 <smcginnis> Nothing from me. 14:50:20 <rosmaita> #action rosmaita - get stable branch powers 14:50:26 <rosmaita> ok, thanks everyone! 14:50:33 <rosmaita> 10 free minutes, use them wisely 14:50:37 <abhishekk> thank you 14:50:46 <rosmaita> #endmeeting