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14:00:15 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
14:00:33 <rosmaita> #topic roll call
14:00:45 <McClymontS> o/
14:00:54 <rosmaita> hi scott
14:01:18 <McClymontS> gm
14:01:23 <jokke_> o/
14:01:29 <rosmaita> hello erno
14:01:41 <abhishekk> o/
14:01:48 <rosmaita> hello abhishek
14:01:57 <abhishekk> hi rosmaita
14:02:48 <rosmaita> ok, let's get started
14:02:55 <rosmaita> #topic updates
14:03:23 <rosmaita> #topic updates - RC-3
14:03:36 <jokke_> \\o \o/ o// o/7
14:03:40 <rosmaita> as abhishekk noticed, RC-3 is released
14:03:44 <abhishekk> \o/\o/\o/
14:03:46 <rosmaita> and i guess jokke_ too
14:03:50 <jokke_> ;)
14:03:58 <rosmaita> #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html#queens-glance
14:04:17 <rosmaita> this week marks the end of release candidates
14:04:22 <jokke_> I did check that you had been up around silly-o-clock and made the release patch
14:04:34 <abhishekk> Thank you all for your efforts and support!!!
14:04:51 <rosmaita> if any critical issue is found, it's up to the discretion of the release team whether a new one comes out after the end of this week
14:05:15 <rosmaita> so we basically have today and tomorrow for testing and fixing
14:05:31 <rosmaita> probably just the next few hours due to ptg travel, tbh
14:05:35 <jokke_> What abhishekk just said! We pulled insane effort together over past couple of weeks to get things merged and all criticals fixed what we found. GR8 work guys and now it's time to stop doing those 13-16hr days ;)
14:06:01 <abhishekk> :D, more sleep \o/
14:06:09 <rosmaita> :D
14:06:37 <rosmaita> yes definite thanks to abhishekk jokke_ and sean for being around pretty much 24-7 the past week and getting this done
14:07:00 <jokke_> We are delivering way more this release that I had even hoped for about month ago
14:07:05 <rosmaita> i'll talk to sean about the timing for proposing the actual release patch
14:07:09 <rosmaita> yeah, me too
14:07:19 <rosmaita> remember my proposal to keep 2.6 experimental?
14:07:23 <rosmaita> not a good idea!
14:07:31 <jokke_> :)
14:07:48 <jokke_> happy that I was convincing enough
14:07:58 <abhishekk> yep
14:08:16 <rosmaita> off topic, someone remember to bring up at the PTG deprecating the owner_is_tenant option (that is, make it True by default and un-changeable)
14:08:55 <rosmaita> #topic updates - community goals
14:09:17 <abhishekk> I have patch up for mox removal
14:09:25 <rosmaita> got some patches up to the governance repo, but it wouldn't hurt for glance peeps to take a look
14:09:30 <jokke_> rosmaita: you never proposed the noop community goal if I'm right :P
14:09:43 <rosmaita> jokke_ no, i ran out of time, maybe next cycle
14:10:10 <rosmaita> ok i have updated the uwsgi goal along the lines of what we discussed last meeting:
14:10:20 <rosmaita> #link https://review.openstack.org/545484
14:10:39 <rosmaita> and i filed a "completion artifact" for the policy-in-code goal:
14:10:48 <rosmaita> #link https://review.openstack.org/546981
14:11:10 <rosmaita> i guess it's really a '"completion" artifact'
14:11:19 <rosmaita> since it says we did not do it
14:11:45 <rosmaita> anyway, the tc has office hours at 1500 utc today, i will show up and push the tc to take a look
14:12:05 <rosmaita> #topic updates - glance_store functional tests
14:12:18 <rosmaita> we really need to restore these
14:12:22 <rosmaita> they are experimental
14:12:42 <rosmaita> but they are useful to have around, particularly for when requrements changes are proposed
14:12:55 <rosmaita> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526956/
14:13:06 <abhishekk> will have a look tomorrow
14:13:08 <rosmaita> anyway, that has been sitting for a while, would be good to get it in
14:13:12 <rosmaita> ty
14:13:33 <rosmaita> the "needed-by" on that patch have already merged, by the way
14:13:50 <rosmaita> but basically, it gives us complete control over our functional tests
14:14:00 <rosmaita> they are defined in .zuul.yaml in our code repo
14:14:11 <rosmaita> so any changes we make will take effect immediately
14:14:15 <rosmaita> which is kind of cool
14:14:33 <rosmaita> #topic updates
14:14:43 <jokke_> rosmaita: ref goal updates, thanks for those patches and making clear stand where we are about them
14:15:00 <rosmaita> great
14:15:36 <rosmaita> on that note, this is my last meeting as PTL ... thank you for all the support from everyone this cycle
14:15:56 <jokke_> rosmaita: Thank you!
14:15:59 <rosmaita> jokke_ is our plan to skip the meeting next week, or hold it during the ptg?
14:16:03 <McClymontS> Thank you rosmaita
14:16:13 <abhishekk> rosmaita, thank you
14:16:22 <jokke_> yes, we will skip ... I have drafted mail to the mailing list about it already
14:16:33 <rosmaita> ok, great
14:16:42 <rosmaita> ok, next item
14:16:52 <rosmaita> #topic Dublin PTG
14:17:05 <rosmaita> jokke_ this is you
14:17:19 <jokke_> yes .. so I think I got everything covered that was proposed
14:17:37 <abhishekk> jokke_, yes
14:17:51 <jokke_> I left the schedule intentionally ending at 16:30 so when we do slip we are not thrown out in a middle of discussion
14:18:04 <rosmaita> good plan
14:18:14 <rosmaita> i just signed up for the retrospective
14:18:25 <jokke_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rocky-ptg
14:18:44 <jokke_> #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/5ow7tkekq151
14:19:06 <abhishekk> how to sign in for retrospective?
14:19:21 <jokke_> The later is "easy" to read timeboxing for the topics so people can see about what is going on and when
14:19:24 <rosmaita> just put your name by "participants" i think
14:19:40 <jokke_> abhishekk: yes, put your name in to the etherpad participants
14:19:52 <abhishekk> ohh, will do
14:20:43 <jokke_> so I wanted to start the wed morning with the retrospective and roles & responsibilities discussion
14:21:09 <jokke_> and then we have lunch out at the city + the Jameson tour for those who wish to participate
14:21:41 <abhishekk> o/
14:21:48 <rosmaita> \o
14:21:51 <jokke_> but I did not want to push that retrospecive being just at the Jameson as there is admission fee involved and it's bit out of the PTG venue
14:22:26 <jokke_> so we have slot for the "official" part and then we go out with who wants to join us and take the cool down with some Whiskey ;)
14:22:52 <rosmaita> sounds good
14:23:29 <jokke_> if you see any issues with the schedule, please flag them asap
14:23:38 <jokke_> sorry for not sharing the links earlier
14:23:41 <rosmaita> glad to see the quota sync scheduled for monday
14:23:52 <rosmaita> will be good for us to know what everyone else is doing
14:24:26 <jokke_> so we do not have room or anything for it, I thought that we just take it on the hallway track, get together and try to figure out what's going on
14:24:55 <rosmaita> only thing i don't see is the meeting with keystone about "service tokens"
14:25:13 <rosmaita> i think we are on their etehrpad for 14:45 - 15:15 on Tuesday
14:25:25 <jokke_> ok, good point
14:25:45 <rosmaita> that's right after the team picture, so we can walk back together
14:25:55 <jokke_> sounds good
14:25:56 <rosmaita> other than that, looks great
14:26:16 <jokke_> if you have the link for that keystone etherpad, please share
14:26:42 <jokke_> I'll try to find it and add that to the schedule spread sheet so we have eveything recorded in there
14:26:55 <rosmaita> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-rocky-ptg
14:27:05 <rosmaita> line 61
14:27:46 <jokke_> gr8 thanks, will add it after the meeting
14:28:06 <rosmaita> ok, great, will look forward to seeing everyone!
14:28:16 <jokke_> likewise
14:28:19 <abhishekk> yes, me too
14:28:26 <rosmaita> anything else about the PTG?
14:28:32 <jokke_> also ... first impression, how do you guys like that spreadsheet?
14:28:45 <abhishekk> great
14:28:49 <jokke_> makes life easier/more difficult?
14:28:57 <rosmaita> i haven't looked much past E6
14:29:18 <rosmaita> seriously, though, it looks good and is helpful for seeing the organization
14:29:21 <jokke_> I shamelessly stole the format from Infra so kudos to them if it works, I take the blame if it doesn't
14:29:32 <rosmaita> :)
14:29:37 <abhishekk> :D
14:30:21 <rosmaita> ok, guess it's time for open discussion
14:30:21 <jokke_> that's it for the PTG from me ... Myself and rosmaita will arrive Dublin Mon morning
14:30:33 <rosmaita> #topic open discussion
14:30:37 <jokke_> so depending of the traffic we'll try to aim for the opening
14:30:57 <abhishekk> I will be around sunday night
14:31:19 <McClymontS> I will not be there sadly
14:31:32 <rosmaita> McClymontS next time, hopefully
14:31:44 <McClymontS> Is the next ptg location known?
14:31:54 <jokke_> abhishekk: try to phase your sleeping in a way that you are properly tired when you arrive. That jetlag will be bitch to fight otherwise
14:32:09 <McClymontS> I will likely make it to vancouver
14:32:18 <abhishekk> jokke_, yep :D
14:32:22 <jokke_> McClymontS: I don't think it has been disclosed yet, but I'd assume somewhere in Northern America
14:32:33 <McClymontS> Ah that will be very good for me jokke_
14:32:33 <rosmaita> McClymontS that is good, you should experience an OpenStack Summit
14:32:41 <rosmaita> yeah, i have not heard anything about next ptg location
14:32:41 <jokke_> McClymontS: that'd be great, I will be there also
14:32:58 * jokke_ has flights booked already
14:33:09 <McClymontS> Gotta get my stuff approved for it
14:33:11 <McClymontS> but trying to be there
14:33:37 <jokke_> so the open discussion topic
14:33:50 <jokke_> I have not booked a slot for the video interview yet
14:34:20 <abhishekk> Plenty of free slots available if we decided to have one
14:34:26 <jokke_> I wanted to make sure that if we have anything what I'm missing from the schedule (like the keystone meet) we do not have collisions
14:34:29 <jokke_> yes
14:35:15 <jokke_> I think we have lots to be proud of about Queens with this skeleton crew and it could be good thing to share
14:35:43 <abhishekk> yes
14:35:55 <rosmaita> maybe tuesday before lunch would be a good time?
14:36:53 <jokke_> can I voluntold you guys into it again?
14:37:06 <rosmaita> sure
14:37:11 <rosmaita> :)
14:37:16 <abhishekk> sure
14:37:39 <jokke_> done
14:37:45 <rosmaita> I just noticed that today is the final RC deadline
14:37:50 <jokke_> Tue 11:30
14:37:55 <jokke_> rosmaita: yes
14:38:08 <jokke_> as usual Thu is the tag deadline day
14:38:22 <jokke_> rosmaita: but I have strong feeling that rc3 will be our release
14:38:45 <rosmaita> we need to put up a patch for that?
14:38:52 <rosmaita> jokke_ i have the same feeling!
14:38:55 <jokke_> the rc3 got tagged
14:39:06 <abhishekk> likewise
14:39:17 <jokke_> the release will be tagged on the same commit as last rc
14:39:49 <jokke_> unless something has changed
14:40:02 <rosmaita> ok, so we don't need to do anything?
14:40:03 <smcginnis> Which would be the same commit?
14:40:08 <rosmaita> hi sean
14:40:18 <jokke_> we can sync up with smcginnis when he is available if the release request is expected from us or if it's autogenerated
14:40:29 <jokke_> oh, there he is
14:40:47 <smcginnis> The final releases are proposed by us, but we would like to see your +1 on the patch that does it.
14:41:01 <rosmaita> ok, so we just need to watch for the patch
14:41:04 <smcginnis> I will add you (jokke_ and rosmaita) to the patch.
14:41:09 <smcginnis> ++
14:41:10 <jokke_> brilliant
14:41:21 <rosmaita> smcginnis roughly, when should we look for that?
14:41:56 <smcginnis> rosmaita: I will probably put up the patch tomorrow, then wait until next Wednesday to approve it.
14:42:19 <smcginnis> That will then kick off all the automation to get the "final" queens deliverables.
14:42:19 <rosmaita> ok, great, so we can put our +1s at the ptg
14:42:33 <rosmaita> excellent
14:42:58 <rosmaita> ok, i will put RC-3 testing and PTG prep as the priorities for the week
14:43:09 <rosmaita> (and pray that no one finds any serious problems)
14:43:35 * jokke_ is super exited about this release
14:43:51 <rosmaita> glad to hear that -- you are inheriting it!
14:44:14 <jokke_> heh ... and tbh I could not have asked for more looking the circumstances
14:44:17 <rosmaita> i am excited, too, it is good to see the image import stuff really get out there
14:44:21 <jokke_> This is good place to take over
14:44:42 <rosmaita> btw, i have an idea for one more import-method
14:44:46 <rosmaita> 'web-reference'
14:44:52 <jokke_> rosmaita: exactly ... years of planning, sweat, blood and tears finally carrying fruit
14:45:03 <rosmaita> was having a discussion in the glance channel yesterday with someone using the http store
14:45:06 <jokke_> I saw that ... we need to discuss about it
14:45:10 <rosmaita> it's easy in v1, but not in v2
14:45:23 <jokke_> that was consious call IIRC
14:45:42 <rosmaita> yeah, just wanted to mention it so that we remember to discuss
14:46:04 <abhishekk> will keep in mind
14:46:22 <jokke_> yup ... there was quite a bit of concerns about that being anything else than admin backend to use
14:47:04 <jokke_> specially due to the possible load on the external network it might cause, not even mentioning the immutability problems
14:47:14 <rosmaita> ok, will be good to have that discussion so we are all on the same page about why it is a bad idea!
14:47:41 <jokke_> yup, if there is spec for it to review, it will come up in PTG ;P
14:47:43 <rosmaita> i mean, you cannot expect fast boots if the image is coming over the web
14:48:13 <smcginnis> I haven't played with that. Is that something like pulling images directly from the ubuntu cloud images nightly builds?
14:48:33 <jokke_> smcginnis: glance has http backend which is read only
14:48:40 <rosmaita> no, this would be more like each individual user pulled the image from ubuntu
14:48:49 <jokke_> so you can instead of hosting the image locally just point glance to url
14:49:13 <jokke_> and if it's not in cache glance will pull it from the remote source
14:49:26 <smcginnis> OK, thanks. Wasn't aware of that option.
14:49:40 <rosmaita> yeah, it was intentionally made difficult to do in v2
14:50:33 <rosmaita> anything else?
14:51:05 <jokke_> I'm good, can't wait to see ye all in Ireland!
14:51:28 <jokke_> McClymontS: and sorry you couldn't make it, hopefully we'll meet in Vancouver
14:52:21 <rosmaita> ok, well, jokke_ will host the next meeting on March 1
14:52:25 <rosmaita> thanks everyone!
14:52:31 <jokke_> no I won't!
14:52:32 <abhishekk> thank you
14:52:36 <jokke_> March 8th
14:52:43 <smcginnis> Thanks all, looking forward to Dublin!
14:52:45 <McClymontS> Looking forward to it guys
14:52:56 <rosmaita> sorry, march 8!
14:53:08 <smcginnis> rosmaita: At least you got the month right. :)
14:53:25 <jokke_> Thanks all
14:53:29 <rosmaita> smcginnis was originally going to say feb 29
14:54:21 <jokke_> that's like 6years away :P
14:54:48 <rosmaita> #endmeeting