14:00:07 #startmeeting glance 14:00:12 Meeting started Thu Feb 22 14:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:15 The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:00:33 #topic roll call 14:00:45 o/ 14:00:54 hi scott 14:01:18 gm 14:01:23 o/ 14:01:29 hello erno 14:01:41 o/ 14:01:48 hello abhishek 14:01:57 hi rosmaita 14:02:48 ok, let's get started 14:02:55 #topic updates 14:03:23 #topic updates - RC-3 14:03:36 \\o \o/ o// o/7 14:03:40 as abhishekk noticed, RC-3 is released 14:03:44 \o/\o/\o/ 14:03:46 and i guess jokke_ too 14:03:50 ;) 14:03:58 #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html#queens-glance 14:04:17 this week marks the end of release candidates 14:04:22 I did check that you had been up around silly-o-clock and made the release patch 14:04:34 Thank you all for your efforts and support!!! 14:04:51 if any critical issue is found, it's up to the discretion of the release team whether a new one comes out after the end of this week 14:05:15 so we basically have today and tomorrow for testing and fixing 14:05:31 probably just the next few hours due to ptg travel, tbh 14:05:35 What abhishekk just said! We pulled insane effort together over past couple of weeks to get things merged and all criticals fixed what we found. GR8 work guys and now it's time to stop doing those 13-16hr days ;) 14:06:01 :D, more sleep \o/ 14:06:09 :D 14:06:37 yes definite thanks to abhishekk jokke_ and sean for being around pretty much 24-7 the past week and getting this done 14:07:00 We are delivering way more this release that I had even hoped for about month ago 14:07:05 i'll talk to sean about the timing for proposing the actual release patch 14:07:09 yeah, me too 14:07:19 remember my proposal to keep 2.6 experimental? 14:07:23 not a good idea! 14:07:31 :) 14:07:48 happy that I was convincing enough 14:07:58 yep 14:08:16 off topic, someone remember to bring up at the PTG deprecating the owner_is_tenant option (that is, make it True by default and un-changeable) 14:08:55 #topic updates - community goals 14:09:17 I have patch up for mox removal 14:09:25 got some patches up to the governance repo, but it wouldn't hurt for glance peeps to take a look 14:09:30 rosmaita: you never proposed the noop community goal if I'm right :P 14:09:43 jokke_ no, i ran out of time, maybe next cycle 14:10:10 ok i have updated the uwsgi goal along the lines of what we discussed last meeting: 14:10:20 #link https://review.openstack.org/545484 14:10:39 and i filed a "completion artifact" for the policy-in-code goal: 14:10:48 #link https://review.openstack.org/546981 14:11:10 i guess it's really a '"completion" artifact' 14:11:19 since it says we did not do it 14:11:45 anyway, the tc has office hours at 1500 utc today, i will show up and push the tc to take a look 14:12:05 #topic updates - glance_store functional tests 14:12:18 we really need to restore these 14:12:22 they are experimental 14:12:42 but they are useful to have around, particularly for when requrements changes are proposed 14:12:55 #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526956/ 14:13:06 will have a look tomorrow 14:13:08 anyway, that has been sitting for a while, would be good to get it in 14:13:12 ty 14:13:33 the "needed-by" on that patch have already merged, by the way 14:13:50 but basically, it gives us complete control over our functional tests 14:14:00 they are defined in .zuul.yaml in our code repo 14:14:11 so any changes we make will take effect immediately 14:14:15 which is kind of cool 14:14:33 #topic updates 14:14:43 rosmaita: ref goal updates, thanks for those patches and making clear stand where we are about them 14:15:00 great 14:15:36 on that note, this is my last meeting as PTL ... thank you for all the support from everyone this cycle 14:15:56 rosmaita: Thank you! 14:15:59 jokke_ is our plan to skip the meeting next week, or hold it during the ptg? 14:16:03 Thank you rosmaita 14:16:13 rosmaita, thank you 14:16:22 yes, we will skip ... I have drafted mail to the mailing list about it already 14:16:33 ok, great 14:16:42 ok, next item 14:16:52 #topic Dublin PTG 14:17:05 jokke_ this is you 14:17:19 yes .. so I think I got everything covered that was proposed 14:17:37 jokke_, yes 14:17:51 I left the schedule intentionally ending at 16:30 so when we do slip we are not thrown out in a middle of discussion 14:18:04 good plan 14:18:14 i just signed up for the retrospective 14:18:25 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-rocky-ptg 14:18:44 #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/5ow7tkekq151 14:19:06 how to sign in for retrospective? 14:19:21 The later is "easy" to read timeboxing for the topics so people can see about what is going on and when 14:19:24 just put your name by "participants" i think 14:19:40 abhishekk: yes, put your name in to the etherpad participants 14:19:52 ohh, will do 14:20:43 so I wanted to start the wed morning with the retrospective and roles & responsibilities discussion 14:21:09 and then we have lunch out at the city + the Jameson tour for those who wish to participate 14:21:41 o/ 14:21:48 \o 14:21:51 but I did not want to push that retrospecive being just at the Jameson as there is admission fee involved and it's bit out of the PTG venue 14:22:26 so we have slot for the "official" part and then we go out with who wants to join us and take the cool down with some Whiskey ;) 14:22:52 sounds good 14:23:29 if you see any issues with the schedule, please flag them asap 14:23:38 sorry for not sharing the links earlier 14:23:41 glad to see the quota sync scheduled for monday 14:23:52 will be good for us to know what everyone else is doing 14:24:26 so we do not have room or anything for it, I thought that we just take it on the hallway track, get together and try to figure out what's going on 14:24:55 only thing i don't see is the meeting with keystone about "service tokens" 14:25:13 i think we are on their etehrpad for 14:45 - 15:15 on Tuesday 14:25:25 ok, good point 14:25:45 that's right after the team picture, so we can walk back together 14:25:55 sounds good 14:25:56 other than that, looks great 14:26:16 if you have the link for that keystone etherpad, please share 14:26:42 I'll try to find it and add that to the schedule spread sheet so we have eveything recorded in there 14:26:55 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-rocky-ptg 14:27:05 line 61 14:27:46 gr8 thanks, will add it after the meeting 14:28:06 ok, great, will look forward to seeing everyone! 14:28:16 likewise 14:28:19 yes, me too 14:28:26 anything else about the PTG? 14:28:32 also ... first impression, how do you guys like that spreadsheet? 14:28:45 great 14:28:49 makes life easier/more difficult? 14:28:57 i haven't looked much past E6 14:29:18 seriously, though, it looks good and is helpful for seeing the organization 14:29:21 I shamelessly stole the format from Infra so kudos to them if it works, I take the blame if it doesn't 14:29:32 :) 14:29:37 :D 14:30:21 ok, guess it's time for open discussion 14:30:21 that's it for the PTG from me ... Myself and rosmaita will arrive Dublin Mon morning 14:30:33 #topic open discussion 14:30:37 so depending of the traffic we'll try to aim for the opening 14:30:57 I will be around sunday night 14:31:19 I will not be there sadly 14:31:32 McClymontS next time, hopefully 14:31:44 Is the next ptg location known? 14:31:54 abhishekk: try to phase your sleeping in a way that you are properly tired when you arrive. That jetlag will be bitch to fight otherwise 14:32:09 I will likely make it to vancouver 14:32:18 jokke_, yep :D 14:32:22 McClymontS: I don't think it has been disclosed yet, but I'd assume somewhere in Northern America 14:32:33 Ah that will be very good for me jokke_ 14:32:33 McClymontS that is good, you should experience an OpenStack Summit 14:32:41 yeah, i have not heard anything about next ptg location 14:32:41 McClymontS: that'd be great, I will be there also 14:32:58 * jokke_ has flights booked already 14:33:09 Gotta get my stuff approved for it 14:33:11 but trying to be there 14:33:37 so the open discussion topic 14:33:50 I have not booked a slot for the video interview yet 14:34:20 Plenty of free slots available if we decided to have one 14:34:26 I wanted to make sure that if we have anything what I'm missing from the schedule (like the keystone meet) we do not have collisions 14:34:29 yes 14:35:15 I think we have lots to be proud of about Queens with this skeleton crew and it could be good thing to share 14:35:43 yes 14:35:55 maybe tuesday before lunch would be a good time? 14:36:53 can I voluntold you guys into it again? 14:37:06 sure 14:37:11 :) 14:37:16 sure 14:37:39 done 14:37:45 I just noticed that today is the final RC deadline 14:37:50 Tue 11:30 14:37:55 rosmaita: yes 14:38:08 as usual Thu is the tag deadline day 14:38:22 rosmaita: but I have strong feeling that rc3 will be our release 14:38:45 we need to put up a patch for that? 14:38:52 jokke_ i have the same feeling! 14:38:55 the rc3 got tagged 14:39:06 likewise 14:39:17 the release will be tagged on the same commit as last rc 14:39:49 unless something has changed 14:40:02 ok, so we don't need to do anything? 14:40:03 Which would be the same commit? 14:40:08 hi sean 14:40:18 we can sync up with smcginnis when he is available if the release request is expected from us or if it's autogenerated 14:40:29 oh, there he is 14:40:47 The final releases are proposed by us, but we would like to see your +1 on the patch that does it. 14:41:01 ok, so we just need to watch for the patch 14:41:04 I will add you (jokke_ and rosmaita) to the patch. 14:41:09 ++ 14:41:10 brilliant 14:41:21 smcginnis roughly, when should we look for that? 14:41:56 rosmaita: I will probably put up the patch tomorrow, then wait until next Wednesday to approve it. 14:42:19 That will then kick off all the automation to get the "final" queens deliverables. 14:42:19 ok, great, so we can put our +1s at the ptg 14:42:33 excellent 14:42:58 ok, i will put RC-3 testing and PTG prep as the priorities for the week 14:43:09 (and pray that no one finds any serious problems) 14:43:35 * jokke_ is super exited about this release 14:43:51 glad to hear that -- you are inheriting it! 14:44:14 heh ... and tbh I could not have asked for more looking the circumstances 14:44:17 i am excited, too, it is good to see the image import stuff really get out there 14:44:21 This is good place to take over 14:44:42 btw, i have an idea for one more import-method 14:44:46 'web-reference' 14:44:52 rosmaita: exactly ... years of planning, sweat, blood and tears finally carrying fruit 14:45:03 was having a discussion in the glance channel yesterday with someone using the http store 14:45:06 I saw that ... we need to discuss about it 14:45:10 it's easy in v1, but not in v2 14:45:23 that was consious call IIRC 14:45:42 yeah, just wanted to mention it so that we remember to discuss 14:46:04 will keep in mind 14:46:22 yup ... there was quite a bit of concerns about that being anything else than admin backend to use 14:47:04 specially due to the possible load on the external network it might cause, not even mentioning the immutability problems 14:47:14 ok, will be good to have that discussion so we are all on the same page about why it is a bad idea! 14:47:41 yup, if there is spec for it to review, it will come up in PTG ;P 14:47:43 i mean, you cannot expect fast boots if the image is coming over the web 14:48:13 I haven't played with that. Is that something like pulling images directly from the ubuntu cloud images nightly builds? 14:48:33 smcginnis: glance has http backend which is read only 14:48:40 no, this would be more like each individual user pulled the image from ubuntu 14:48:49 so you can instead of hosting the image locally just point glance to url 14:49:13 and if it's not in cache glance will pull it from the remote source 14:49:26 OK, thanks. Wasn't aware of that option. 14:49:40 yeah, it was intentionally made difficult to do in v2 14:50:33 anything else? 14:51:05 I'm good, can't wait to see ye all in Ireland! 14:51:28 McClymontS: and sorry you couldn't make it, hopefully we'll meet in Vancouver 14:52:21 ok, well, jokke_ will host the next meeting on March 1 14:52:25 thanks everyone! 14:52:31 no I won't! 14:52:32 thank you 14:52:36 March 8th 14:52:43 Thanks all, looking forward to Dublin! 14:52:45 Looking forward to it guys 14:52:56 sorry, march 8! 14:53:08 rosmaita: At least you got the month right. :) 14:53:25 Thanks all 14:53:29 smcginnis was originally going to say feb 29 14:54:21 that's like 6years away :P 14:54:48 #endmeeting