14:00:30 <jokke_> #startmeeting glance
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14:00:34 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
14:01:23 <jokke_> #topic roll-call
14:01:28 <jokke_> o/
14:01:44 <abhishekk> o/
14:02:22 <rosmaita> o/ (sorry i'm late)
14:02:35 <jokke_> no worries, Morning brian
14:02:42 <jokke_> #topic updates
14:02:51 <jokke_> lets start with the PTG planning
14:02:57 <jokke_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Glance-Train-PTG-planning
14:03:03 <jokke_> empty canvas for now
14:03:18 <jokke_> I get the template copied so we can start session planning
14:03:40 <smcginnis> .o.
14:03:53 <jokke_> hi Sean
14:04:09 <jokke_> ok moving on
14:04:11 <smcginnis> Sorry, I need to set my meeting reminder closer to the start so I don't get distracted. :)
14:04:16 <jokke_> #topic release updates
14:04:24 <abhishekk> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/train-ptg-glance-planning
14:04:38 <abhishekk> I have one ^^, if you think it's useful
14:05:30 <abhishekk> Regarding periodic jobs, I have submitted a patch to fix the 3.5 interpreter not found issue
14:05:42 <abhishekk> Please refer, https://review.openstack.org/648614
14:06:04 <smcginnis> I've added abhishekk's etherpad to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Train/Etherpads
14:06:07 <smcginnis> Feel free to update
14:06:40 <abhishekk> On release front we have delivered glance rc1
14:06:58 <jokke_> lets get back to the ptg plan on the open discussion
14:07:03 <abhishekk> I have reported one documentation related bug regarding cache management
14:07:37 <jokke_> indeed rc1 was tagged and we haven't seen any critical bugs out of it so far
14:07:38 <abhishekk> #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823124
14:07:39 <openstack> Launchpad bug 1823124 in Glance "Update cache-manage documentation" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane)
14:08:06 <jokke_> abhishekk: ++ thanks for making that
14:08:19 <abhishekk> I have patch up as well
14:08:28 <jokke_> cheers
14:08:29 <abhishekk> #link https://review.openstack.org/649908
14:08:36 <smcginnis> Seems minor enoigh to pick up in a first stable release, but if it merges today we could get another RC.
14:08:36 <abhishekk> :D
14:08:47 <abhishekk> +1
14:09:25 <rosmaita> i agree, looks like worth having in the stein odcs
14:09:29 <rosmaita> *docs
14:09:31 <abhishekk> But do we need another patches like config generation and release notes as well?
14:09:52 <jokke_> I'm fine not rolling another RC for doc patch. the docs will update as soon as we backport that anyways
14:09:59 <jokke_> abhishekk: nope, it's all in RC1
14:10:05 <abhishekk> cool
14:10:27 <abhishekk> that's it from me
14:10:50 <jokke_> RC1 is what the name stands for Release Candidate ... it should be good to go for a Tag unless something critical needed fixing :D
14:11:10 <rosmaita> might want to get this in to speed up changes in master: https://review.openstack.org/645870
14:11:28 <jokke_> abhishekk: how about our periodic jobs. Did that py36 merge and did it fix our issues?
14:11:49 <abhishekk> it's not merged yet
14:12:01 <smcginnis> rosmaita: Done! Good one to have.
14:12:12 <abhishekk> #link https://review.openstack.org/648614
14:12:13 <jokke_> darn ... k ... so I assume we're still seiing those same errors coming from there?
14:12:23 <abhishekk> yes
14:12:24 <jokke_> seeing
14:12:27 <jokke_> ok, thanks
14:12:55 <jokke_> #topic subunit parser issues
14:13:09 <jokke_> rosmaita: you seem to put topic for this into the agenda
14:13:40 <rosmaita> yeah, ttx noticed some problems and he and smcginnis put up some patches yesterday
14:13:41 <jokke_> this is the second issue we've been seeing from there iiuc
14:13:50 <abhishekk> I have gone through the chat, and saw couple of patches were merged to avoid deprecation warnings
14:14:12 <rosmaita> yeah, so at this point my agenda item may be moot
14:14:15 <smcginnis> Still working around the root issue, but reducing logging noise helps avoid hitting the failure.
14:14:40 <smcginnis> But if we have any other easy to clean up things like deprecation warnings or noisy logging, it helps to clean that up.
14:14:54 <rosmaita> i wonder whether after these changes, abhishekk's other patches will help?
14:15:12 <jokke_> I still think the root issue is us moving too quickly to premature tooling that wasn't able to scale, but that's nothing new in the community
14:15:15 <jokke_> :D
14:15:19 <rosmaita> when we ran the experiment a month or so ago, they were same failure rate as un-patched glance
14:15:19 <abhishekk> rosmaita, not sure, I have abandoned them
14:15:23 <ttx> There are weird deprecation warnings coming from tasks tests
14:16:05 <abhishekk> #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634628/
14:16:15 <ttx> like "/home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/glance/.tox/py37/lib/python3.7/site-packages/testtools/testcase.py:1049: DeprecationWarning: Using function/method 'TasksController.get()' is deprecated: The task API is being deprecated and it will be superseded by the new image import API. Please refer to this link for more information about the aforementioned process:
14:16:17 <ttx> https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/glance-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/image-import/image-import-refactor.html"
14:16:33 <ttx> Feels like this should be deprecated by now?
14:16:36 <abhishekk> In above patch I was trying to avoid adding extra glance-api logs to the tests
14:16:58 <smcginnis> abhishekk: That should help.
14:17:00 <ttx> (or if not deprecated, looks like the warning should no longer be there ?)
14:17:04 <rosmaita> or maybe we should just remove the deprecation warning
14:17:10 <rosmaita> (what ttx just said)
14:17:18 <smcginnis> Is it deprecated and going away? Or did plans change there?
14:17:24 <jokke_> ttx: thanks, that needs to be looked into. It's one of those things we inherit from the lovely Onion design and the deprecation message is just triggered from worng place
14:18:32 <jokke_> smcginnis: the tasks api deprecation is real, the engine running it is not going anywhere and the deprecation gets triggered on the tasks engine, not on the tasks API
14:18:42 <rosmaita> we need to put tasks on the PTG agenda
14:18:49 <jokke_> rosmaita: indeed
14:19:06 <rosmaita> because i don't know that we need to support the non-taskflow tasks any longer
14:19:48 <smcginnis> jokke_: Ah
14:19:48 <rosmaita> we kind of addresssed the deprecation issue when the task_api policy was added
14:20:32 <jokke_> rosmaita: yeah, that was before the discussion of actually removing deprecated API functions became a thing :)
14:20:45 <jokke_> thus there is that never ending deprecation loop :D
14:21:05 <rosmaita> it's an onion of deprecations
14:21:15 <abhishekk> :D
14:21:52 <smcginnis> :)
14:22:27 <jokke_> ok anything else about the subunit parser issue we're seeing?
14:22:41 <rosmaita> just that it's pissing people off
14:23:06 <jokke_> yup
14:23:08 <rosmaita> and thanks to ttx for doing something about it
14:23:18 <jokke_> indeed thanks Thierry
14:24:20 <jokke_> ok lets open it up
14:24:26 <jokke_> #topic open discussion
14:26:26 <jokke_> I'll change the templating a bit, I think our scaling on the session planning is very unrealistic and it really haven't worked that great
14:26:40 <jokke_> ^^ ref the PTg planning
14:27:02 <rosmaita> everything is always XL!
14:27:16 <jokke_> rosmaita: indeed, regardless how we estimated it
14:27:46 <jokke_> The reality is that an hour is very short time having any discussion in that environment
14:28:42 <rosmaita> I put 2 sessions on the cinder and glance etherpads, maybe you can coordinate with jungleboyj about timing
14:28:50 <rosmaita> jokke_: ^^
14:28:58 <abhishekk> cool
14:29:55 <jokke_> rosmaita: yeap, that's the other part what our planning is lacking, the collaboration coordination part. So Keep an eye on the link I posted I try to work through the changes I wanted to have on that over today/toorrow and move the topics over
14:30:13 <jokke_> I just did not want to copy the boilerplating directly
14:30:29 <abhishekk> we also need one cross session with nova for snapshot/backup uploading to glance specific backend
14:30:33 <rosmaita> i put abhishekk's cinder-use-glance-multistore as a quick discussion, but think it should be longer -- i spoke with eharney and he thinks there is a different way to do this in cinder, namely to hide the glance store in a 'volume type'
14:30:36 <jokke_> before I have touched a little bit with you guys about the feeling how well that has worked
14:32:10 <jokke_> but what I'm hearing is that I'm not the only one thinking this did not work so well, so I get some details down and I'll ping ye guys to give it a pass before we start moving topics over
14:32:27 * jokke_ is trying to avoid tons of duplicate work
14:33:33 <jokke_> that's all from me, anything else?
14:33:36 <rosmaita> jokke_: can you post that link again?
14:33:50 <abhishekk> ^^
14:34:20 <jokke_> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Glance-Train-PTG-planning
14:35:11 <abhishekk> Nothing from me at the moment
14:36:02 <jokke_> rosmaita: smcginnis anything on your minds?
14:36:08 <rosmaita> not me
14:36:37 <smcginnis> Nope
14:36:49 <jokke_> ok, I know rosmaita is busy with cinder upgrade checks etc. so lets free the 20+min for being productive and close this early
14:37:02 <jokke_> Thanks all and have a good one!
14:37:10 <rosmaita> :)
14:37:17 <abhishekk> thank you all
14:37:23 <jokke_> #endmeeting