14:00:06 #startmeeting glance 14:00:07 Meeting started Thu Apr 23 14:00:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:07 #topic roll call 14:00:08 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:00:16 #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda 14:00:17 o/ 14:00:19 o/ 14:00:40 wait for couple of minutes 14:00:42 o/ 14:00:42 (i am only partially here) o- 14:00:50 cool, lets start 14:01:09 #topic Updates 14:01:25 I have created Virtual PTG timing doodle 14:01:54 Kindly update the same with your preferable time slots 14:02:10 I need to update the same in https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy 14:02:16 Link for doodle is 14:02:25 #link https://doodle.com/poll/6a46283tii7gt2aa 14:02:42 I have also send mail about the same on openstack-discuss 14:03:09 Virtual PTG will be held between 1-5 June 14:03:18 Moving ahead 14:03:26 #topic release/periodic jobs update 14:03:36 RC1 is tagged 14:04:04 which includes some doc changes and skipped functional test 14:04:40 Thanks for all the reviews 14:04:54 ok, can we fix what ever is breaking that test before release or will it be soething like 20.0.1? 14:05:17 jokke_, at the moment no clue for why it is failing 14:05:27 I have added my understanding in the commit message 14:05:39 it is something related to early closing of connection 14:06:13 Regarding periodic job we have 2 failures related to oslo 14:06:36 test_best_match_language_expected test is failing due to testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: 'it' != None 14:06:45 abhishekk: but we do have bug open for it? 14:06:53 jokke_, yes 14:06:57 gr8 14:07:03 let me provide the link 14:07:28 I thought that translation thing got fixed already, I'm pretty sure I +2W'd the patch 14:07:38 #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1873735 14:07:38 Launchpad bug 1873735 in Glance "Functional test 'test_image_member_lifecycle_for_multiple_stores' fails intermittently for py37" [High,New] - Assigned to Abhishek Kekane (abhishek-kekane) 14:07:54 There was some issue fixed a few hours ago that was impact legacy zuul v2 jobs. 14:08:00 Not sure if that is relevant here. 14:08:16 smcginnis, will have a look 14:09:03 I am going to find all skipped tests and revisit them if I can fix those 14:09:25 Moving ahead 14:09:29 #topic glance-specs freeze 14:09:30 abhishekk: ping me if you need help 14:09:34 jokke_, ack 14:09:50 I want to reintroduce spec freeze again 14:10:46 Earlier we were not following spec freeze as we want to ensure everything should be addressed at any moment, which also was to attract cross-project members for contribution 14:11:27 But this cycle we had some specs, lite-specs which were left unnoticed till M3 release 14:11:34 I'm fine with either way. I think both have their pros and conns 14:11:49 I want to avoid this in coming cycle 14:11:53 ++ 14:12:07 Owner of the specs should push for review within this timeline 14:12:21 it's easier to avoid thing falling between cracks when there is freeze and people pushing for it 14:12:50 and also reviewer should put his vote with reason before it was rejected or moved to next cycle 14:13:17 I will start reminding core members for reviews 2 weeks before specs-freeze 14:13:37 I hope all members are agree with this decision 14:13:41 what did we ever decide about 'checksum' deprecation? 14:14:12 but yeah, i agree with your proposal 14:14:44 rosmaita, sorry I felt to provide proper attention towards some specs this time 14:14:46 rosmaita: I think that's one of those things ... I don't think we ever did 14:14:49 Yes, proposal makes sense to me. 14:14:57 :( 14:15:04 But I will ensure this will not repeated in next cycle 14:15:39 Cool, thank you, I will mark this spec-freeze date in our priority patch 14:16:06 i think we still have time for checksum deprecation because it's not a code change, just an announcement 14:16:15 in ussuri, i mean 14:17:18 jokke_, what's your take on that, as per the rules if everyone is not agree then I can not merge this lite-spec 14:18:19 rosmaita, I will propose new PS as per your suggestion for victoria specs directory 14:19:50 jokke_, leave your opinion on the specs 14:19:54 abhishekk: sorry i am distracted 14:20:09 so is the idea that we cannot deprecate this in ussuri ? 14:20:25 If it's just announcing the deprecation, I think it would be good to get in. 14:20:30 abhishekk: you're the PTL. That was something tht was introduced IIRC when rosmaita was PTL and I stood behind it specially when the group got smaller and smaller 14:20:55 yes, the idea was that i wanted every core to look at every spec 14:21:13 so that we didn't get multiple image locations situation happening again 14:21:17 rosmaita, my last comment was related to my patch to create victoria specs directory 14:21:20 yes ... the main thing was that we wanted everyone being on board and knowing what's going on 14:21:44 right, so when we lost people, we were not clueless 14:22:23 Agree, but again picture is different this time, rosmaita is cinder PTL, smcginnis also busy with his work 14:22:24 abhishekk: i think for that kind of thing, specs-repo-maintenance, we can treat them like doc changes, just one +2 14:23:07 rosmaita, ack 14:23:09 but tbh the PTL only able to merge specs is driving to the same goal, making sure we don't flag things agreed before making sure everyone has had their eyes on it 14:23:28 right 14:24:07 the current policy in cinder is that a spec only requires two +2s, but the ptl has the option to require more approvals for complex or controversial specs 14:24:11 yeah, what comes to the housekeeping of specs repo, I definitely don't expect seeing everyone on those. There was specific reason why I asked if rosmaita can find time to review it 14:24:51 What I am saying is we don't have much proposals to work other than 3/4 of us 14:24:59 the gerrit +w rules just are applied on the repo not content specific 14:26:27 We can manage these reviews easily in between us within the time line 14:27:42 I guess whoami-rajat is also here for some discussion 14:28:18 i'm currently in a meeting 14:28:40 lets move ahead, jokke_ please add your opinion about checksum deprecation on the lite-specs so that we can decide 14:29:04 abhishekk: in my opinion the specs side is probably the most important thing for PTL in the big picture so I think you should drive that how you feel the best to keep it under control 14:29:22 abhishekk: the rest of us can adjust as long as we know you got the ball ;) 14:29:40 jokke_, ok 14:29:42 jokke_: ++ 14:30:42 #topic Open discussion 14:31:09 jokke_, rosmaita kindly feel the doodle when you get some time 14:31:25 abhishekk: yes, definitely on my todolist 14:31:29 at the top 14:31:37 abhishekk: ack, will try to make glance & coinder not conflict 14:31:40 jokke_, mostly we are the two who will be there for discussion 14:31:52 rosmaita, great 14:32:00 Unfortunately true. :] 14:32:22 smcginnis, no worries, I will keep you updated on important discussions 14:33:58 Thanks! 14:34:07 lets make this work ... I think the biggest challenge and drawback will be how we sort out the beer sessions :D 14:34:26 lol 14:34:27 missing ye guys! :) 14:34:27 Of course, will try to participate. This virtual format may actually make that more possible than in the past. 14:34:56 jokke_, same here 14:35:06 smcginnis, ++ 14:36:15 I wanted to discuss something in Open discussion but it slipped out of my mind :( 14:36:27 Not able to recollect it 14:36:31 I've done that so many times. :) 14:36:39 :D 14:36:56 same 14:37:39 will ping on openstack-glance if i remember it :D 14:38:01 normally I rember it either about the time when I'm going to bed or taking care of something else time sensitive so I'm not adding it to the next agenda either ;) 14:38:15 haha 14:38:49 I usually note it down somewhere but due to horrific couple of days I forgot to note it down 14:39:09 mhm ... you definitely have had enough distractions for this week 14:39:14 yeah, you have had a rough week 14:39:31 yes 14:40:03 ok, do we have anything else for discussion? 14:40:06 I have nothing else 14:40:23 rosmaita, smcginnis ? 14:40:28 Nothing from me. 14:40:39 oh I do 14:40:43 :D 14:40:45 nothing here ... though jokke_ please leave comment on checksum spec-lite 14:40:56 just to mention if you guys have time to stuble upon it 14:41:13 apparently our swift driver is broken with SSL and security enforced 14:41:26 I'm trying to replicate it to figure out what's going on there 14:41:36 ohh, do we have bug for this? 14:41:58 abhishekk: I think we do ... will dig it out ... it's what zigo pinged last Fri 14:42:06 I wonder if it's even worth testing UNsecure configurations. I would think we would want security enabled by default and covered by default with testing. 14:42:40 also apparently our API starts crapping out if one of the stores in multi-store is not available ... something I'm also trying to reproduce to test and file a bug about 14:42:48 I have went through your discussion on IRC but forget to followup with you 14:43:05 smcginnis: so the security enforced is that it accepts only valid certs 14:43:12 jokke_: abhishekk: Yeah, it doesn't take into account the ca file that I've passed on, at least on Train. 14:43:15 jokke_, is it about 500 issue on listing any command 14:43:17 which apparently is not that widely used case 14:43:21 abhishekk: yeah 14:43:27 the second one is 14:44:11 zigo: so I haven't forgotten it, just havent got to bottom if it either yet 14:44:14 jokke_, I have configured 5 file stores and for testing revert logic on imports I am manually deleting one of the directory 14:44:24 Good, good! 14:44:25 but I am not getting any error due to it 14:44:49 zigo, what about current master, have you tried it? 14:45:10 abhishekk: I was told about it regarding ceph so it might be something rbd specific ... but like said haven't reproduced it yet to see what's going on 14:45:17 abhishekk: Not yet, but I'm about to try ussuri, as the RC1 are out for all projects. 14:45:30 zigo, ack 14:45:44 zigo: please keep me updated on #openstack-glance if you don't mind 14:45:58 I'm spending some time on these two 14:46:00 I'm not sure when that will be... 14:46:05 I will also try to setup environment with train 14:46:07 The release keeps me busy these days. 14:46:23 zigo, could you paste the bug link here? 14:46:29 zigo: no worries ... just let me know when you do ... I try to focus the train for now 14:46:39 No bug opened yet, but I can open one right away. 14:46:47 Storyboard or Launchpad? 14:46:50 that will be good, 14:46:53 launchpad 14:46:54 launchpad 14:48:56 https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1874458 14:48:56 Launchpad bug 1874458 in Glance "Glance doesn't take into account swift_store_cacert" [Undecided,New] 14:48:56 anything else guys? 14:49:02 zigo, thank you 14:49:04 Not sure if the title is good enough though ... 14:49:20 nope, now I'm really done 14:49:53 zigo: we can change all that when we figure out what's actually going on there ... now we have someplace to track our findings :D 14:50:06 +1 14:50:44 lets wrap it up 14:50:47 thank you all 14:51:40 #endmeeting