14:01:02 <abhishekk> #startmeeting glance
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14:01:08 <abhishekk> #topic roll call
14:01:12 <jokke> o/
14:01:13 <abhishekk> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda
14:01:15 <abhishekk> o/
14:01:22 <abhishekk> short agenda today
14:01:37 <abhishekk> lets wait couple of minutes for others to join'
14:01:48 <rosmaita> o/
14:02:18 <abhishekk> cool, lets start
14:02:32 <abhishekk> #topic Updates
14:02:38 <abhishekk> Victoria release community meeting - Today 1600 UTC
14:02:58 <abhishekk> Some projects are going to give updates about victoria PTG
14:03:10 <abhishekk> I will be presenting updates for Glance
14:03:18 <abhishekk> the meeting is on zoom
14:03:25 <jokke> cool, good luck.
14:03:29 <abhishekk> If interested kindly join
14:03:32 <abhishekk> thank you :D
14:03:33 <jokke> ^^ the reason why I won't be there
14:03:40 <abhishekk> I know :D
14:03:55 <abhishekk> moving ahead
14:03:59 <abhishekk> #topic release/periodic jobs update
14:04:03 <rosmaita> abhishekk: i somehow missed the connection info, do yo have it?
14:04:13 <abhishekk> rosmaita, yes
14:04:37 <abhishekk> Zoom Info:
14:04:37 <abhishekk> https://zoom.us/j/2146866821?pwd=aDlpOXd5MXB3cExZWHlROEJURzh0QT09
14:04:37 <abhishekk> Meeting ID: 214 686 6821
14:04:37 <abhishekk> Passcode: Victoria
14:04:37 <abhishekk> Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/8BRrV
14:04:47 <rosmaita> great, thanks
14:04:52 <abhishekk> np
14:05:04 <abhishekk> Wallaby milestone 1 - 3 weeks away
14:05:28 <abhishekk> we need to work on specs correction and pending reviews during this period
14:05:40 <abhishekk> More about priorities in following topic
14:05:46 <abhishekk> Periodic jobs all green this week
14:05:56 <abhishekk> not a single failure
14:06:06 <jokke> \\o \o/ o// o/7
14:06:12 <abhishekk> yep \o/
14:06:22 <abhishekk> Moving to next topic
14:06:29 <abhishekk> #topic Milestone 1 priorities
14:06:35 <abhishekk> Correct spec for cluster-awareness
14:06:51 <abhishekk> Need to reform spec with suggestions from the PTG
14:06:58 <abhishekk> Correct spec for cache-api
14:07:01 <abhishekk> Same here
14:07:04 <jokke> yes, I'm working on splitting that spec to two
14:07:12 <abhishekk> cool
14:07:21 <jokke> cluster awareness that is
14:07:28 <abhishekk> ack
14:07:44 <jokke> the cache api spec I did put some comments in earlier this week
14:08:06 <abhishekk> Yes, I reverted to those comments
14:08:20 <abhishekk> will start working on it around next week
14:08:34 <abhishekk> I need to write spec/spec lite for new endpoint to display tasks information
14:09:10 <abhishekk> Also we need to release glance-store to unblock multistore cinder functional test cases
14:09:27 <abhishekk> I will put release patch early next week
14:09:49 <jokke> cool, feel free to tap me in to that tasks info spec when you get to it
14:10:17 <abhishekk> and last is sync with RBAC popup team to check/understand the progress, requirements
14:10:24 <abhishekk> jokke, ack, I will
14:10:39 <jokke> This last point really worries me
14:10:49 <abhishekk> This should be like we need to pull rabbit from the hat
14:11:03 <jokke> I think you had some discussions already, mind to shed some light to it?
14:11:34 <abhishekk> Not much, that meeting was related to testing/tempest for RBAC
14:11:40 <jokke> ah
14:12:14 <abhishekk> popup team have bi-weekly meeting on every thursday around 1800 UTC
14:12:21 <rosmaita> jokke: the community goal is very simple
14:12:25 <abhishekk> which is today
14:12:26 <Steap> I think one of the people involved in RBAC should be in a downstream meeting next week as well btw
14:12:27 <rosmaita> unless i completely misunderstand it
14:12:56 <abhishekk> rosmaita, that is what I want to get it clear today
14:13:02 <rosmaita> community goal is just to use policy.yaml as the default policy file
14:13:20 <jokke> rosmaita: I'm not worried about that community goal for this cycle. I'm very much worried about the expectation that we can just flip to this keystone ocntrolled RBAC some miraculous way after
14:13:22 <rosmaita> ok, give me a minute to find the proposal, it wasn't merged yet when i looked yseterday
14:13:22 <abhishekk> which is glance already doing
14:13:45 <rosmaita> jokke: i understand, but i think that is a downstream concern?
14:14:30 <jokke> rosmaita: IIUC that was discussed being the follow up community goal for next cycle
14:14:40 <abhishekk> rosmaita, even it will be concern for upstream (for next cycle) if we didn't started planning
14:14:58 <rosmaita> jokke: i really don't like they way the community has been handling the policy stuff as a series of "stealth" goals
14:15:26 <jokke> rosmaita: not only the policy stuff, but yeah lets not go there now ;P
14:15:34 <rosmaita> but yeah, probably next cycle will be to make all projects use "consistent and secure" policy config
14:15:37 <rosmaita> goal proposal (text): https://review.opendev.org/759881
14:15:37 <rosmaita> move to 'accepted': https://review.opendev.org/#/c/760957/
14:15:37 <rosmaita> sample deprecation warnings: https://review.opendev.org/760956/
14:15:38 <patchbot> patch 760956 - governance - Adding reno and warnings example for JSON->YAML go... (MERGED) - 3 patch sets
14:15:39 <patchbot> patch 760957 - governance - Select JSON to YAML goal for Wallaby cycle (MERGED) - 2 patch sets
14:15:41 <patchbot> patch 759881 - governance - Add goal for migrate RBAC policy format from JSON ... (MERGED) - 3 patch sets
14:16:07 <rosmaita> ok, looks like goal has merged
14:16:17 <abhishekk> :D
14:16:55 <jokke> yup, and like you said, very well kept secret so there wouldn't be any community discussion around it
14:17:06 <abhishekk> Sleepless nights ahead
14:17:32 <Steap> jokke: you're killing me :)
14:17:54 <rosmaita> so for the goal, my understanding is there are 3 parts:
14:18:07 <jokke> abhishekk: not for me, too old for that. I'm happy to review any contributions interested parties present ;)
14:18:11 <rosmaita> 1 make sure the policy file is generated from policies-in-code as YAML format
14:18:16 <rosmaita> (that's done)
14:18:25 <abhishekk> jokke, :D
14:18:42 <rosmaita> 2 make sure the default policy file glance looks for is named 'policy.yaml'
14:18:58 <jokke> rosmaita: I think that's done as well
14:19:03 <rosmaita> (not sure if we do that ourselves, or if oslo.policy or oslo.config will do that)
14:19:27 <rosmaita> jokke: we need to check, i added custom code to cinder in stein to do that
14:19:50 <rosmaita> 3 add an upgrade check for presence of policy.json
14:19:56 <rosmaita> and actually 4
14:19:58 <abhishekk> we are ok for step 2 as well
14:20:10 <rosmaita> 4 deprecation notice for JSON support
14:20:30 <rosmaita> (which is kind of weird since yaml is a superset of json, but whatever)
14:20:31 <jokke> rosmaita: I'm sure as part of the goal evaluation there is tempest tests in place for that and we will be let known if the service doesn't perform as expected ;)
14:20:34 <abhishekk> where this notice should be shown, in Reno???
14:20:54 <rosmaita> yes, there's a sample in one of those patches
14:21:04 <abhishekk> ack
14:21:09 <Steap> rosmaita: this all seems "almost done"
14:21:17 <Steap> is there really not much more to the whole RBAC thing?
14:21:24 <abhishekk> some of the glance tests are using policy.json :D
14:21:37 <rosmaita> Steap: yes, the upstream goal is very modest
14:21:39 <abhishekk> Steap, its just start of the mess
14:21:41 <Steap> hehehe
14:21:49 <Steap> oh ok so for one of the next cycles, it will be much worse
14:21:59 <Steap> but this cycle's goal is modest, I see
14:22:14 <abhishekk> real picture is far different
14:22:27 <jokke> abhishekk: yeah, the good news is that if we deprecate the json support this cycle we have until about c or d cycle to fix those tests before any removal happens :P
14:22:44 <abhishekk> :P
14:24:53 <abhishekk> I will attend today's meeting
14:25:05 <abhishekk> that's it for today
14:25:11 <abhishekk> Moving to Open discussion
14:25:17 <abhishekk> #topic Open discussion
14:25:44 <abhishekk> Friday and Monday is holiday in India due to Diwali festival
14:26:03 <abhishekk> I will not be around from today midnight till Tuesday morning
14:26:14 <rosmaita> happy Diwali!
14:26:18 <Steap> Enjoy the time off!
14:26:28 <jokke> Hope you will have great diwali with family!
14:26:37 <abhishekk> thank you \o/,
14:27:49 <abhishekk> Lets wrap early if nothing is pending for discussion
14:28:05 <jokke> Jut make sure you keep watchful eye on them candles and don't eat too much sweets :P
14:28:07 <abhishekk> jokke, rosmaita, Steap ^^
14:28:15 <abhishekk> :D
14:28:15 <jokke> Nothing from me atm.
14:28:31 <rosmaita> nothing from me
14:28:38 <Steap> nothing from me
14:28:40 <abhishekk> cool
14:28:46 <Steap> I'll be worried in the next cycles with the RBAC stuff :)
14:28:58 <abhishekk> have a nice weekend all
14:29:14 <abhishekk> hold your breath :D
14:29:24 <jokke> Thanks everyone
14:29:26 <abhishekk> thank you, see you next week
14:29:40 <abhishekk> #endmeeting