14:01:02 #startmeeting glance 14:01:03 Meeting started Thu Nov 12 14:01:02 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. 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I'm very much worried about the expectation that we can just flip to this keystone ocntrolled RBAC some miraculous way after 14:13:22 ok, give me a minute to find the proposal, it wasn't merged yet when i looked yseterday 14:13:22 which is glance already doing 14:13:45 jokke: i understand, but i think that is a downstream concern? 14:14:30 rosmaita: IIUC that was discussed being the follow up community goal for next cycle 14:14:40 rosmaita, even it will be concern for upstream (for next cycle) if we didn't started planning 14:14:58 jokke: i really don't like they way the community has been handling the policy stuff as a series of "stealth" goals 14:15:26 rosmaita: not only the policy stuff, but yeah lets not go there now ;P 14:15:34 but yeah, probably next cycle will be to make all projects use "consistent and secure" policy config 14:15:37 goal proposal (text): https://review.opendev.org/759881 14:15:37 move to 'accepted': https://review.opendev.org/#/c/760957/ 14:15:37 sample deprecation warnings: https://review.opendev.org/760956/ 14:15:38 patch 760956 - governance - Adding reno and warnings example for JSON->YAML go... (MERGED) - 3 patch sets 14:15:39 patch 760957 - governance - Select JSON to YAML goal for Wallaby cycle (MERGED) - 2 patch sets 14:15:41 patch 759881 - governance - Add goal for migrate RBAC policy format from JSON ... (MERGED) - 3 patch sets 14:16:07 ok, looks like goal has merged 14:16:17 :D 14:16:55 yup, and like you said, very well kept secret so there wouldn't be any community discussion around it 14:17:06 Sleepless nights ahead 14:17:32 jokke: you're killing me :) 14:17:54 so for the goal, my understanding is there are 3 parts: 14:18:07 abhishekk: not for me, too old for that. I'm happy to review any contributions interested parties present ;) 14:18:11 1 make sure the policy file is generated from policies-in-code as YAML format 14:18:16 (that's done) 14:18:25 jokke, :D 14:18:42 2 make sure the default policy file glance looks for is named 'policy.yaml' 14:18:58 rosmaita: I think that's done as well 14:19:03 (not sure if we do that ourselves, or if oslo.policy or oslo.config will do that) 14:19:27 jokke: we need to check, i added custom code to cinder in stein to do that 14:19:50 3 add an upgrade check for presence of policy.json 14:19:56 and actually 4 14:19:58 we are ok for step 2 as well 14:20:10 4 deprecation notice for JSON support 14:20:30 (which is kind of weird since yaml is a superset of json, but whatever) 14:20:31 rosmaita: I'm sure as part of the goal evaluation there is tempest tests in place for that and we will be let known if the service doesn't perform as expected ;) 14:20:34 where this notice should be shown, in Reno??? 14:20:54 yes, there's a sample in one of those patches 14:21:04 ack 14:21:09 rosmaita: this all seems "almost done" 14:21:17 is there really not much more to the whole RBAC thing? 14:21:24 some of the glance tests are using policy.json :D 14:21:37 Steap: yes, the upstream goal is very modest 14:21:39 Steap, its just start of the mess 14:21:41 hehehe 14:21:49 oh ok so for one of the next cycles, it will be much worse 14:21:59 but this cycle's goal is modest, I see 14:22:14 real picture is far different 14:22:27 abhishekk: yeah, the good news is that if we deprecate the json support this cycle we have until about c or d cycle to fix those tests before any removal happens :P 14:22:44 :P 14:24:53 I will attend today's meeting 14:25:05 that's it for today 14:25:11 Moving to Open discussion 14:25:17 #topic Open discussion 14:25:44 Friday and Monday is holiday in India due to Diwali festival 14:26:03 I will not be around from today midnight till Tuesday morning 14:26:14 happy Diwali! 14:26:18 Enjoy the time off! 14:26:28 Hope you will have great diwali with family! 14:26:37 thank you \o/, 14:27:49 Lets wrap early if nothing is pending for discussion 14:28:05 Jut make sure you keep watchful eye on them candles and don't eat too much sweets :P 14:28:07 jokke, rosmaita, Steap ^^ 14:28:15 :D 14:28:15 Nothing from me atm. 14:28:31 nothing from me 14:28:38 nothing from me 14:28:40 cool 14:28:46 I'll be worried in the next cycles with the RBAC stuff :) 14:28:58 have a nice weekend all 14:29:14 hold your breath :D 14:29:24 Thanks everyone 14:29:26 thank you, see you next week 14:29:40 #endmeeting