14:00:01 <abhishekk> #startmeeting glance 14:00:01 <opendevmeet> Meeting started Thu Aug 18 14:00:01 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:01 <opendevmeet> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:01 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'glance' 14:00:07 <abhishekk> #topic roll call 14:00:13 <abhishekk> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda 14:00:26 <abhishekk> waiting for others to show 14:00:28 <abhishekk> o/ 14:00:41 <mrjoshi_> o/ 14:00:45 <dansmith> o/ 14:00:51 <abhishekk> update, cyril is on leave for 3 weeks (including this) 14:01:36 <abhishekk> mrjoshi_, there are some comments on your patch, if you have any doubts then get it cleared here 14:02:39 <rosmaita> o/ 14:02:57 <abhishekk> pdeore, will be late, lets start 14:03:09 <abhishekk> #topic Update 14:03:11 <rosmaita> (sorry, i am running a video meeting simultaneously) 14:03:19 <jokke_> o/ 14:03:19 <abhishekk> np! 14:03:38 <abhishekk> The PTG will be virtual now 14:04:09 <abhishekk> We will follow the same time which we used to follow for previous PTG's 14:04:23 <abhishekk> that will be between 1400 UTC to 1700 UTC 14:04:52 <abhishekk> If anyone has any concerns related to timings then please let me know 14:04:56 <abhishekk> moving forward; 14:05:08 <abhishekk> #topic release/periodic jobs updates 14:05:21 <abhishekk> Milestone 3 two weeks away 14:05:29 <abhishekk> we have 2 features in waiting list 14:05:45 <abhishekk> lets discuss this in next topic 14:05:59 <abhishekk> glance-store final release will be next week 14:06:28 <abhishekk> We don't have anything pending for store, so good to tag the final release by next Wednesday 14:07:03 <abhishekk> I will suggest cores to go through list of patches of glance store and see it there is anything important we can get merged before next week 14:07:23 <jokke_> ack 14:07:51 <abhishekk> cool, periodic jobs all green except time out for fips related jobs 14:08:14 <abhishekk> moving to next topic 14:08:24 <abhishekk> #topic Pending features 14:08:31 <abhishekk> Store details API - mrjoshi 14:09:15 <abhishekk> there are few suggestions from rosmaita, I think one is related to using actual parameter names 14:09:35 <abhishekk> and other one is should we show computed values rather than in Bytes 14:10:08 <rosmaita> actually, the patch is showing the computed values in bytes, but the operator can only configure in MB 14:10:31 <rosmaita> so i guess the question is what is the primary goal of the discovery response? 14:10:47 * pdeore is back 14:11:05 <rosmaita> i was thinking it was for an operator to see how the store is configured 14:11:13 <abhishekk> correct 14:11:47 <rosmaita> ok, then we should probably not show the computed values ... or we could show them, but indicated separately somehow 14:12:05 <rosmaita> the big problem though is that we already implemented store discovery for rbd store 14:12:18 <abhishekk> rosmaita, I think if we decides to do it, do it separtely for both the stores 14:12:20 <rosmaita> and that currently shows the computed value, not the configured value 14:14:07 <abhishekk> at this moment I am good with computed values 14:14:22 <abhishekk> we can explain about it in release notes 14:14:51 <mrjoshi_> I think initially we were going with the computed values only when we had it for the rbd store 14:15:08 <abhishekk> right 14:15:44 <abhishekk> and if you are going to change it then you need to file a bug fix it for rbd first and then we can merge this patch 14:15:52 <abhishekk> that will be small change though 14:16:10 <jokke_> Will break the API 14:16:41 <abhishekk> how? 14:17:01 <jokke_> To change it for rbd it's published and released already 14:17:54 <abhishekk> in that case I think its better to explain it in docs and release note 14:18:01 <jokke_> so better option is to use another key name all together if we want to show it as it's configured rather than how the system sees it 14:18:03 <dansmith> it will change only in the respect that it will be correct instead of incorrect right? 14:18:32 <abhishekk> that will increase the confusion 14:18:35 <dansmith> a user doesn't know that it's wrong right now and the units are no different once we show the right value yeah? 14:20:22 <abhishekk> I think its better to show computed value and explain it in reno 14:20:38 <jokke_> it's not wrong, the code uses bytes, the config otoh is expecting Mi. So both are correct and it does not have unit with it on the field 14:21:13 <dansmith> right, we expose bytes, but where they will only ever be a multiple of 1MiB today correct? 14:21:49 <dansmith> there's no reasonable client behavior that would be broken by reading a byte value that is not MiB-aligned in the future, that I can think of :) 14:23:54 <abhishekk> Ok, we need an agreement here otherwise this will get dropped from the cycle 14:24:16 <jokke_> So there is no usecase for that info in the first place. But what will be confusing AF, is that if we change it now, and you look the output from older system showing you bytes (without unit) and new version that shows you integer without units too but the value just happens to be MiB rather than bytes 14:24:52 <abhishekk> I am still at opinion of implementing it same way as implemented in past 14:25:04 <jokke_> ++ 14:25:46 <jokke_> I'm sure we have something like API ref that explains what the value is and helptext in the config explaining what is expected 14:25:55 <abhishekk> mrjoshi_, just change the parameter names of swift store at this moment 14:26:07 <mrjoshi_> abhishekk, ack 14:26:18 <abhishekk> moving ahead 14:26:29 <abhishekk> 2nd pending work is Glance download plugin 14:27:12 <abhishekk> I am afraid both alistarl1 and Pierre-Samuel Le Stang are not around today 14:27:51 <abhishekk> the patch is in good shape with few changes, should we go forward and work on that 14:28:08 <abhishekk> or we should use FFE for the same? 14:28:38 <dansmith> yeah I was going to ask..seems very close but not sure if they're working on those feedback items or not 14:29:26 <abhishekk> not sure either, didn't heard from them since last meeting 14:29:43 <abhishekk> and I also don't want to duplicate the efforts 14:30:22 <abhishekk> I will wait till Monday to get update from them,else will start working on the patch 14:30:34 <abhishekk> sounds good? 14:30:39 <dansmith> sure 14:30:44 <jokke_> for the sake of keeping the patch moving, I'd say if there's no response from them by next week, feel free to propose a new rev ... I'm sure they'd appreciate having it in this cycle too 14:30:44 <abhishekk> cool 14:30:54 <abhishekk> ++ 14:31:18 <abhishekk> moving forward 14:31:29 <abhishekk> #topic Glance PTG planning etherpad 14:31:35 <abhishekk> PTG planning etherpad is up 14:31:44 <abhishekk> #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/antelope-ptg-glance-planning 14:32:00 <abhishekk> Feel free to add topics which you want to discuss during this PTG 14:32:12 <abhishekk> also this will be my last cycle as PTL 14:32:32 <abhishekk> and hopefully pdeore is up for taking the responsibility 14:32:38 <jokke_> PTL is gone, long live PTL! 14:32:48 <jokke_> :) 14:32:49 <abhishekk> :P 14:33:37 <abhishekk> I will help pdeore to organize this PTG 14:34:01 <abhishekk> that is all from me 14:34:09 <abhishekk> any questions, suggestions? 14:34:59 <abhishekk> Just to inform you, I will be going on leave from 10th of September (just before rc1 week) 14:35:21 <abhishekk> if everything is alright and we manage to tag Zed release before that then it will be good 14:35:35 <abhishekk> otherwise I will work part time during rc1 week 14:36:32 <jokke_> Working holiday? Aren' you getting old for that :P 14:36:57 <abhishekk> :D if you have my back then I don't need to do that 14:37:22 <abhishekk> I think we should wrap up now 14:37:45 <abhishekk> thank you all 14:37:51 <abhishekk> have a nice weekend ahead 14:37:59 <jokke_> thanks 14:38:07 <abhishekk> #endmeeting