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13:59:14 <opendevmeet> The meeting name has been set to 'glance'
13:59:14 <pdeore> #topic roll call
13:59:14 <pdeore> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda
13:59:22 <pdeore> o/
13:59:25 <dansmith> o/
13:59:37 <mrjoshi> o/
14:00:42 <pdeore> let's wait for abhishekk & croelandt
14:00:45 <abhishekk> o/
14:01:45 <pdeore> ok let's start
14:01:50 <pdeore> #topic Updates
14:02:01 <pdeore> Oct 2023 vPTG dates are finalized and will be during October 23-27, 2023
14:02:13 <pdeore> so you can register yourself for the virtual PTG
14:02:15 <pdeore> #link  http://ptg2023.openinfra.dev/
14:02:31 <pdeore> I've registered our team for the same..
14:02:32 <abhishekk> oops
14:03:02 <abhishekk> it is during my PTO :/
14:03:15 <pdeore> ohhhu
14:04:14 <pdeore> it's not possible to prepone or postpone your pto? :P
14:04:27 <abhishekk> I will add my topics for PTG and let you discuss those :P
14:04:50 <pdeore> no no :P
14:05:13 <pdeore> it depends what topics you add btw :D
14:05:18 <abhishekk> no other option
14:05:28 <pdeore> yup :)
14:05:36 * abhishekk will be watching recording afterwards ;)
14:05:44 <pdeore> moving ahead
14:06:00 <pdeore> PTL and TC Election dates are also finalized, during Aug 16 to Aug 30 nominations will be opened
14:06:02 <pdeore> #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/
14:06:29 <pdeore> moving to next
14:06:32 <pdeore> #topic release/periodic jobs updates
14:06:35 <abhishekk> cool, congratulations in advance
14:06:46 <pdeore> :/ :P
14:07:01 <pdeore> M3 is 4 weeks from now
14:07:26 <pdeore> Periodic jobs are all green except failure on fips job with error - "FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'multipathd'"
14:07:40 <pdeore> need to check more about this ^
14:07:50 <dansmith> I've seen it elsewhere,
14:08:05 <dansmith> so I suspect it's a job configuration issue and we should check with cinder peopel
14:08:26 <abhishekk> +1 I think need to involve whoami-rajat here
14:08:26 <dansmith> on the milestone stuff,
14:08:59 <dansmith> I'm a bit concerned about the location api stuff in terms of not having any cinder or nova patches that show it working for those consumers in various job configurations
14:09:12 <dansmith> do those exist (for cinder I assume) already to show that it works the way we want and expect?
14:09:30 <dansmith> I haven't seen client/sdk patches either
14:10:16 <abhishekk> I don't think there are patches from cinder or nova side to test glance work
14:10:35 <abhishekk> I can convince whoami-rajat to put a quick PoC for cinder side
14:10:43 <dansmith> ack, I just found the sdk patch, I hadn't seen that before, but it looks like it has -1 for months so I assume not very active
14:11:15 <pdeore> yeah it's not updated as per the revised spec , I will update it asap
14:11:15 <dansmith> abhishekk: I think that'd be good to make sure we don't merge an api that doesn't work the way we want/need
14:11:48 <abhishekk> +1, I can assist him if he is busy
14:12:03 <dansmith> nova uses glanceclient afaik, so there will probably be a larger effort needed to transition nova to sdk and then to this
14:12:06 <abhishekk> today definitely he is out due to stomachache
14:12:52 <abhishekk> on the other hand it also depends on service role for which keystone patch is not merged yet
14:13:01 <dansmith> ack
14:13:02 <abhishekk> but we can create dependency chain I guess
14:13:18 <dansmith> so I guess I'm wondering what the likelihood is that all those things will get into place by m3
14:13:18 <abhishekk> it has 2 +2s but not approved yet I think
14:13:52 <abhishekk> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/863420
14:13:59 <dansmith> yup
14:14:18 <abhishekk> very less
14:15:15 <d34dh0r53> I'm working on getting that merged
14:15:30 <abhishekk> what? keystone?
14:15:35 <d34dh0r53> yeah
14:15:56 <abhishekk> that will be good for us if it gets in sooner
14:16:08 <abhishekk> d34dh0r53, thanks for the update
14:16:20 <d34dh0r53> np :)
14:17:04 * abhishekk wondering but why deadhorse :D
14:17:15 <pdeore> let's at least try to get the glance & sdk side work in m3 ..
14:17:37 <dansmith> well, I want to see at least one of cinder or nova using it before I'm +2 I think
14:17:41 <abhishekk> glance side needs glanceclient work as well
14:17:42 <dansmith> ideally both
14:17:56 <dansmith> if glanceclient is coming that will make the nova PoC easier
14:18:10 <pdeore> yeah
14:18:37 <abhishekk> agree with dansmith we need to confirm it is working as we expected with consumers
14:18:46 <dansmith> ++
14:18:55 <pdeore> I will try to speed up this work
14:19:34 <abhishekk> I think to write tempest side tests also needs client and keystone change
14:20:02 <abhishekk> that we can postpone if we get PoC working with nova and/or cinder
14:20:29 <pdeore> yeah
14:20:29 <dansmith> obviously need a tempest test before +2 :)
14:20:37 <dansmith> before *I* +2 anyway :)
14:20:43 <abhishekk> :D
14:20:48 <pdeore> :(
14:20:48 <abhishekk> I rest my case
14:21:46 <pdeore> move to next ?
14:22:00 <abhishekk> I think we discussed the next part here
14:22:21 <dansmith> yup
14:22:23 <pdeore> yeah, almost
14:22:28 <abhishekk> but yeah, lets officially move to next one
14:22:45 <pdeore> #topic Important Reviews
14:23:12 <pdeore> so, we have sqlalchemy 2.0 migration related patches up for review which is also a high priority for m3, so kindly please have a look
14:23:16 <pdeore> #link https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:sqlalchemy-20+project:openstack/glance
14:23:32 <dansmith> why is it a high priority for m3?
14:23:50 <abhishekk> I think its a community goal?
14:24:03 <dansmith> the tc goal for this isn't even on the radar, FYI, because we're not even sure when sa 2.0 will be in a distro
14:24:29 <dansmith> obviously it's good to get done early, but just saying, I don't think there's any actual priority here
14:24:46 <abhishekk> ack, sounds good then
14:25:27 <croelandt> so we can miss m3?
14:25:29 <pdeore> ohh that great then, i was assumed so since it's a community goal and other projects have already done it
14:26:04 <croelandt> let's not wait for the last minute anyway, but nice to know it's not taht urgent
14:26:08 <dansmith> we should do it for sure, but I'm not aware of any reason we need to prioritize getting it into m3
14:26:13 <dansmith> definitely need to review those things with care
14:26:20 <pdeore> ack
14:26:23 <abhishekk> +1
14:26:32 <dansmith> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/887083
14:26:34 <dansmith> fwiw ^
14:26:50 <abhishekk> I think priority should be given to CI failures
14:26:54 <dansmith> YES'
14:27:12 <dansmith> I've spent the last month doing nothing but improving gate issues
14:27:32 <dansmith> and progress has been made on general issues, but project-specific things need help
14:27:53 <dansmith> as whoami-rajat noted, there have been some glance image state conflict things (rarely) which is something that people here could help with
14:28:00 <dansmith> and plenty of cinder issues
14:28:19 <dansmith> we've been nearly wedged for a couple weeks until recently with several things that landed
14:28:34 <dansmith> you've probably noticed a lot fewer actual job timeouts lately, for example
14:28:46 <dansmith> if we let that stuff slip, it will just go back to terrible
14:28:51 <abhishekk> agree
14:29:08 <abhishekk> the condition will get worse during last couple of weeks as well
14:29:34 <abhishekk> I will try to have a look at a failure pointed by whoami-rajat
14:29:38 <dansmith> yup
14:30:26 <abhishekk> and sorry about bare rechecks
14:30:36 * dansmith glares at abhishekk
14:30:37 <dansmith> :)
14:31:04 <abhishekk> I can understand your motive behind it
14:33:58 * abhishekk am i disconnected?
14:34:00 <pdeore> let's move ahead,
14:34:36 <pdeore> my laptop got hanged :/
14:34:38 <pdeore> #topic Open Discussions
14:35:44 <pdeore> i think we have already disucssed the points dansmith mentioned in the etherpad
14:35:55 <dansmith> yup
14:36:01 <pdeore> anyone has anything else ?
14:36:18 * croelandt has nothing
14:36:57 * abhishekk don't have anything as well
14:37:12 <pdeore> cool, let's conclude for today !
14:37:25 <pdeore> Thanks everyone for joining !!
14:37:53 <pdeore> #endmeeting